[strongbadgeek]

[QUOTE=Dr. Isaiah Jones;737300]Look, pal, Harry Potter classifies as anti-Christian literature. It is clearly an attempt at converting our children to paganism. America is a Christian nation and thus we should not be tolerating witchcraft nor anything that goes against God's word.

First of all, my god, how close minded and arrogant can some people get? It is a work of fiction, if you don't like it, don't read it! Almost everybody here is a sexist, closed minded person! You people need to seriously go outside and learn a few things about life. This mentality and hate towards other people is what causes wars to go around in this world!
Secondly, you could call America a Christian nation, as Christianity is the majority religion, but the United States is definitely not a Christian nation. That completely crosses the line of the Separation of Church and State border which was put into place by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution. Look it up.

[strongbadgeek]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

And just because you want to fall for satan's lies, it doesn't mean you're right. Hell is chock full of surprised atheists like you, pal.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

Neither does it mean that you're right either! Atheism isn't all that bad, I've got morals, just like all of you close minded, "God" loving people do, and hell, I'm glad of being one. I can think outside the box, take more information in, and learn what I want. I don't need the work of fiction you call the Bible to tell me what I can and cannot do.

[Bella the papist whore]

wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs & I love God, but guess what I'm watching now...HARRY POTTER!!! Best books & movies ever made

It's just a story..a great one at that.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Originally Posted by Bella314

wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs . . . but guess what I'm watching now...HARRY POTTER!!!

Shocker!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Bella314

wow, well I went to Catholic school for 8 yrs & I love God,

But loving God and being a Catholic are mutually exclusive.

You love the Pope, and dead Mary. You hate God, which is why you disobey Him and worship dead humans and practice ritual cannibalism.

[Bella the papist whore]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

But loving God and being a Catholic are mutually exclusive.

You love the Pope, and dead Mary. You hate God, which is why you disobey Him and worship dead humans and practice ritual cannibalism.

First of all, u don't know me so don't EVER say I hate God. I take that very personal. You so called ''True Christians'' take the Bible and twist it around and come up with these warped concepts about Harry Potter is evil, being gay is wrong and all the other ridiculous things I've heard, when in fact you're just a bunch of hypocrites because God loves all his children. Preach love, not hate & that's real talk.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Bella314

...You so called ''True Christians'' take the Bible and twist it around...

Twist it? How? Where? The pastors on here insist that all points being made are backed up by DIRECT quotes from the Bible, IN CONTEXT. If you feel that anything from the Bible is being misused or misunderstood somehow, please raise the specific Scripture in question, or feel free to shut up.

... and come up with these warped concepts about Harry Potter is evil, being gay is wrong and all the other ridiculous things I've heard...

All backed up by DIRECT quotes from the BIBLE (try reading it sometime, you'll learn a lot ).

..., when in fact you're just a bunch of hypocrites because God loves all his children...

Who are His children (according to the Bible)? Those who follow the Bible and do His will are His children. The other 99% of the human population, not so much.

...Preach love, not hate & that's real talk.

Ah, you're a Buddhist. That's nice.

[Johnathan]

Originally Posted by Bella314

First of all, u don't know me so don't EVER say I hate God. I take that very personal. You so called ''True Christians'' take the Bible and twist it around and come up with these warped concepts about Harry Potter is evil, being gay is wrong and all the other ridiculous things I've heard, when in fact you're just a bunch of hypocrites because God loves all his children. Preach love, not hate & that's real talk.

Your name indicates that you are a woman, which means you're not that bright according to Jesus.

Why Catholics are not True Christians

[Bella the papist whore]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

or feel free to shut up.

God gave me a mouth to speak how I feel & hands to type what I want & the intelligence to use them. Not so sure about your intelligence though.

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Who are His children (according to the Bible)? Those who follow the Bible and do His will are His children. The other 99% of the human population, not so much.

Don't know what Bible you're reading from.

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Ah, you're a Buddhist. That's nice.

Negative...I'm Catholic. Don't get it twisted.

Originally Posted by Johnathan

Your name indicates that you are a woman, which means you're not that bright according to Jesus.

I'm not even gonna waste my time on that ignorant comment. You people need help seriously. I'll leave that in Gods hands to deal with you, cause this bantering with people who think they know it all is not going anywhere.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Bella314

First of all, u don't know me so don't EVER say I hate God. I take that very personal.

If you don't hate God, why do you ignore the Bible and pray to dead people and statues, and practice ritual cannibalism? Idolatry and all the other traditions of men are things the Bible specifically commands us to avoid, and God declares them abominations.

If you loved God, you would obey Him instead of Satan's Representative on Earth, the Pope.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Bella314

Negative...I'm Catholic. Don't get it twisted.

That is negative. Catholics aren't even Christians. Read THIS.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

[Bella the papist whore]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

If you don't hate God, why do you ignore the Bible and pray to dead people and statues, and practice ritual cannibalism? Idolatry and all the other traditions of men are things the Bible specifically commands us to avoid, and God declares them abominations.

If you loved God, you would obey Him instead of Satan's Representative on Earth, the Pope.

How am I praying to dead people? Because I like a real book and movie? I don't see any sense in that and I could care less about the pope or what he says. He's not my Father in Heaven.

Look everybody has their own opinions and how they interpret the Bible and obviously our ways are totally different. I'll respect yours and you should respect mine, but saying I follow the devil because I like a book & that I'm not that bright because I'm a woman is totally uncalled for.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Bella the papist whore

How am I praying to dead people? Because I like a real book and movie? I don't see any sense in that and I could care less about the pope or what he says. He's not my Father in Heaven.

Look everybody has their own opinions and how they interpret the Bible and obviously our ways are totally different. I'll respect yours and you should respect mine, but saying I follow the devil because I like a book & that I'm not that bright because I'm a woman is totally uncalled for.

Catholics worship satan.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

...If you feel that anything from the Bible is being misused or misunderstood somehow, please raise the specific Scripture in question, or feel free to shut up...

Um, yeah, that.

Originally Posted by Bella the papist whore

...Look everybody has their own opinions and how they interpret the Bible...

2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

Read it, don't "interpret" it. That's how the Catholics keep adding stuff, like how Mary was ALSO the product of a virgin birth (NOT in the Bible), prayers to saints (dead people), transubstantiation (ie. ritualized cannibalism, if you eat Jesus, you also shit Him out, like ewww), Papal infallibilty (even when they keep changing their minds), etc.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Bella the papist whore

How am I praying to dead people?

Mary is dead.

Saints are dead.

They can't hear you. Ecclesiastes 9:5.

YOU PRAY TO DEAD PEOPLE instead of to GOD.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Bella the papist whore

but saying I follow the devil because I like a book & that I'm not that bright because I'm a woman is totally uncalled for.

It is called for because women are prone to learn to be busybodies, and are thus, dull. This is why men are the teachers of their woman at home.

1 Tomothy
5:13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

It is no wonder that Rowlings wrote the abomination that she did, and why she practices witchcraft in the backwoods.

Of course, your dullness is confirmed by your satanic taste in books and the papacy and an apparent case of frothing at the mouth.

[Skyfire]

Hi! I saw this thread linked on another site, and I just couldn't resist! Big fan of Harry Potter, so I don't really understand the aversion to this series. I read the OP's list of rationale, and there are maybe a couple that hold water in your belief system, but they're a bit of a stretch, and the rest just don't really even make sense in the context of your argument...

First: Harry Potter has nothing to do with real Witchcraft. Not even a passing resemblance. It is fantasy, creativity, imagination and wonder - and these are the things you take from your children when you frighten them away from it, and stories like it. And while its a shame to lose out on the fun of reading, losing out on those qualities is a true shame, especially for a child.

Second: While burning books may bring you some kind of incomprehensible thrill, and while the book burnings of yore may have succeeded in permanently destroying accumulated knowledge, in this day and age of mass printing and digital storage, burning a book does no lasting damage to the knowledge base. So at least roast marshmallows on them or something, so that all those trees didn't die totally in vain, while the rest of us whip out our iPads and read some more Harry Potter.

Three: If you had actually read Harry Potter, instead of hating something before you even know what it is, you would find it rife with Christian values and metaphors. Almost annoyingly so.

Example (SPOILERS AHEAD): the entire climax of the series is predicated on a willing sacrifice of the main character's life to save everyone he loves; a sacrifice which then destroys the evil wizard's power to harm the innocent; the main character then comes back to life, because the evil wizard, in spite of his great power, did not have the power to destroy him, because he had no understanding of the power of selfless love that the main character evoked by giving his life for his friends. Direct metaphor for how Jesus willingly died to save mankind, and thereby destroy the devils power. How can you possibly complain about that? And that's just one example.

Four: I cannot count the number of Harry Potter Confessions I've read on other sites, from kids who said "My parents wouldn't let me read Harry Potter because its agaisnt our religion, but I snuck a copy from a friend at school and read it anyway." This is the era of the internet; if your kids want to read it, they will find a way to read it. And all you do by banning it, is make it look more desirable and cool; you may as well bow to the inevitable.

Five: Harry Potter is just plain entertaining! None of you would know that, since you won't allow yourselves to touch it (because it has cooties and you're not allowed to use your imaginations, I guess?) but there's a reason its so popular! Great storytelling, compelling characters that display excellent dynamic development over the course of the story, a magnificent and vivid setting, plenty of plot twists - you're missing out!



So anyway, one wonders why you need to be so afraid of a story; surely your beliefs are not so flimsy that merely reading a children's book will cause you to lose your religion. So I am mystified by the deep and abiding terror and hatred a children's tale has inspired in a group of supposedly strong and faithful adults...

Anyway, I challenge you to read the books! *dat dat daaaah!* You would see that they are nothing dangerous or subversive, just good story telling - and you can always go on hating them afterwards.

Sincerely ~ your friendly neighborhood Pagan

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Do you know what the Bible says about wizards?

That's right, the same thing it says about beastialism enthusiast, murderers, incestualism and gays.

Do you really think it is okay for children to be shown doing any of these activities? Really?

That's just sick and it shows how far atheists will go to send the vibrant, clean limbed young youths and girls to Hell.

Shame on you!

YIC

[Bjorn Jensen]

Originally Posted by Skyfire

Example (SPOILERS AHEAD): the entire climax of the series is predicated on a willing sacrifice of the main character's life to save everyone he loves; a sacrifice which then destroys the evil wizard's power to harm the innocent; the main character then comes back to life, because the evil wizard, in spite of his great power, did not have the power to destroy him, because he had no understanding of the power of selfless love that the main character evoked by giving his life for his friends. Direct metaphor for how Jesus willingly died to save mankind, and thereby destroy the devils power. How can you possibly complain about that? And that's just one example.

How dare you compare Jesus to damn wizard?

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Skyfire

So anyway, one wonders why you need to be so afraid of a story

Because they seduce innocent children into a path that will lead to eternal damnation in the fires of Hell. Everyone who doesn't hate children should be afraid of this.

Anyway, I challenge you to read the books!

I did read the books. All of them. I also watched all the movies. They were filled with page after page of insults to God. As soon as Sarah Palin implements Biblical law in America the witch who wrote these dreadful books should be burned along with her books.