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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-25-2012, 09:32 PM

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Are you dense?

I don't believe that you are sincere when you explain you meant "silicon dioxide molecules" when you said "atoms of glass".
i alway confuse atoms with molecules and i ment to say glass molecules not silicon dioxide molecules(which are the same)
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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-25-2012, 09:39 PM

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i alway confuse atoms with molecules...
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...also i have a bachelor in Chemistry and i work in the state laboratory of turkey
Just, wow. How unqualified to you have to be to work there?


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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-25-2012, 10:27 PM

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i ment to write "the atoms of a glass molecule"
glass is another name for the molecule of silicon dioxide
but the atoms of both silicon and oxygen were visible and easy to see
This atomic microscope that can clearly see atoms on molecules must be a famous piece of equipment. By the way, arguments from personal experience are not reliable evidence of anything.

So there must be photos of these glass molecules out there. Care to link to these made up things?



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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-25-2012, 11:53 PM

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Just, wow. How unqualified to you have to be to work there?
Depends on what you're doing.

To sweep the floor and empty the trash?


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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-26-2012, 08:40 AM

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Just, wow. How unqualified to you have to be to work there?
i don't do nuclear chemistry so molecules and atoms aren't my concern
also both in turkish and greek(the languages i learned chemistry) they almost atoms and molecules are very similar words
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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-26-2012, 10:32 AM

I thought that secular scientist defined chemistry as the action/reaction between atoms and/or molecules. If an atheist like you doesn't know the difference, the atheists who hired you must be even dumber than normal. But atheists can't be consequent among themselves, it is all the more reason for me not to believe their "scientist" nonsense. (Not that there was any reason to begin with, after reading the KJV)

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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-26-2012, 11:14 AM

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I thought that secular scientist defined chemistry as the action/reaction between atoms and/or molecules. If an atheist like you doesn't know the difference, the atheists who hired you must be even dumber than normal. But atheists can't be consequent among themselves, it is all the more reason for me not to believe their "scientist" nonsense. (Not that there was any reason to begin with, after reading the KJV)

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well at least i know how world works
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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-26-2012, 12:16 PM

Do you? How interesting. It seems to me that you haven't grasped the fundamentals of your believes in secular science. I have my KJV firmly grasped in my hands.

If you want to troll, at least do your homework.


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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-26-2012, 01:24 PM

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well at least i know how world works
You are an embarrassment. You claim to have access to an atomic microscope and to have personally viewed pictures of molecules. You also have the most rudimentary grasp of gravitational theory. What your problem is here is that you aren't used to dealing with people better informed than yourself so your attempts at bluster and arguments from authority and personal experience quickly collapse.

We know you are lying, you know that we know you are lying.

Also, if you claim to believe all the science stuff you reckon you understand so fervently and claim this shows God was either massively mistaken or outright lying when inspiring the Bible why do you follow stuff you say is a collection of fables? What makes Christianity so special in your eyes? When push comes to shove do you rally believe in anything but the bare bones of your childhood upbringing?

You call yourself a Christian. I call you a pathetic sham hanging on to some vague life after death fantasy that can't possibly bear fruit because you don't even really believe in the conditions laid out by Jesus about how to get into Heaven. You just like the idea that God will gather you up after you've lived your life as you pleased and will be everything you imagined Him to be.

Why then, do so many people say God is different to how you think Him to be? The answer, friend, is that you are just making up God in your own head based on your own thoughts and opinions. You might as well be an atheist. Admit this to yourself and either get with Jesus properly (unlikely as the very Christian principles you are repelled by are the things you have to accept) or at least stop lying to us and to yourself.

You are no True Christian; you are a cultural Christian clinging on by his fingernails to a vague idea of faith. You can't have cosmology and God.



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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-27-2012, 04:24 AM

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The world works the way God says it works.



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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-31-2012, 12:29 AM

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Hello, you were saying how there isn't an atomic microscope or pictures of atoms around? Please Google it! Or visit your local library, or look it up in any appropriate resource.

Here are some links (the last nasa one is slightly less magnified, i just thought it was interesting ot get that perspective too )

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...s-at-last.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1020120050.htm

http://gizmodo.com/5346964/ibm-takes...f-atomic-bonds

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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-31-2012, 05:06 AM

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Hello, you were saying how there isn't an atomic microscope or pictures of atoms around? Please Google it! Or visit your local library, or look it up in any appropriate resource.

Here are some links (the last nasa one is slightly less magnified, i just thought it was interesting ot get that perspective too )

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...s-at-last.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1020120050.htm

http://gizmodo.com/5346964/ibm-takes...f-atomic-bonds

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph.../AFM_Tips.html
Those are all secular websites, hosted by satan.

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-31-2012, 06:35 AM

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Hello, you were saying how there isn't an atomic microscope or pictures of atoms around? Please Google it! Or visit your local library, or look it up in any appropriate resource.

Here are some links (the last nasa one is slightly less magnified, i just thought it was interesting ot get that perspective too )

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...s-at-last.html
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1020120050.htm

http://gizmodo.com/5346964/ibm-takes...f-atomic-bonds

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph.../AFM_Tips.html
And none of those organizations have a vested interest in lying to you and making stuff up that just ain't so in order to get gullible people to cough up taxes? Critical thinking isn't your strong point, right?

You really ought to not blindly trust in what authority figures tell you.



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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 07-31-2012, 08:18 AM

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Hello, you were saying how there isn't an atomic microscope or pictures of atoms around? Please Google it!...
Please try understanding what you read.

These are not "microscopes" in the traditional sense, and they do not yield "pictures", per se, so much as (for want of a better word in English) "visualizations".

The problem when you get down to tiny scales, such as these instruments deal with, is that the wavelengths of visual light are so much larger than what you're trying to see. Where a classic (film) photograph is composed of a record of chemical interactions between photons (which the human eye can detect) reflected from a surface and photosensitive chemicals coating a polymer substrate, and digital photographs record the arrival of photons on a CCD (charge-coupled device) detector, electron microscopes bombard the target a beam of high-energy electrons and record the deflection caused to that beam by whatever it hits. Because this beam can be focused much more narrowly than the shortest wavelength of visible light, you can use them to investigate the structure of much smaller things, but you are not "seeing" them so much as seeing a "map" of the effect they have on a beam of electrons.

This new generation of "atomic force microscopes" go one step beyond that, even. They measure the force between the target and the detection tip. Imagine an old-style record player where the stylus doesn't even touch the record (it actually can't, at these scales, due to the Van der Waal's force). It's kind of like two really tiny magnets that can't touch each other, but you can use one to detect the presence of the other due to the repulsion between them. The "pictures" in the articles you linked are reconstructed maps of those forces, NOT PICTURES OF ATOMS OR MOLECULES, but that's what they call them rather than taking the time to properly explain these things to the (usually not very smart) reporters who call them and just want a "cool" story about the fancy new gizmo.


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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 08-08-2012, 10:51 AM

I was unable to keep from laughing at the idiocy of this passage. I seriously hope this is a spoof, but sadly I doubt it. Can you guys really be denying this? If you deny the scientific fact that your God doesn't exist I suppose it's not that much harder to just deny everything that science has ever discovered.

Please Christians, read some science. It will do you good. Anyway, why shouldn't you read books that you think are evil? You guys have so much blind faith that all the logic in the world won't make you think there is no God. really if there was actually a God and you truly believed it you would be able to read any of these books and just not be philosophically effected at all. The only thing you risk from not looking at the ideas of others is being correct. If you actually acknowledge that you might not be correct then we will all learn - other religions have followers just as faithful as you, so how do you know they're wrong? I know I don't know everything, but I know your God doesn't exist.
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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 08-08-2012, 11:03 AM

Try applying the same advice to yourself. You don't know you're right. Anyway, if pi=3 then... hmm. Things aren't looking too good for logic. pi isn't 3, pi is about the ratio of the radius of a circle to its circumference, and the ratio needed isn't 3.

Imagine a circle cut into wedges, laid end on end in a rectangle shape, the radius of the circle down one side, the outer edge of the circle down the perpendicular sides. The length of the radius is r, the length of the sides made up of edge segments of the circle are pi times r. pi isn't 3, It's about 3.415 or something. ( I don't know the exact value but it ain't three)

The claims I come across on this site just get more and more ridiculous. Your God is this much of a bitch with evidence that, even if somehow you're right, I wouldn't worship him for allowing this evidence to even exist. Any intelligent person will refute the things you say that are mathematically and physically incorrect. (I also wouldn't worship God for allowing so many natural disasters and sending people to hell and stuff. I won't worship out of fear, I will do what I KNOW is morally right, not what God says is morally right. I'd rather go to hell to be tortured than live eternity with a psycho called Yaweh)
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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 08-08-2012, 12:00 PM

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*** blah blah blah the scientific fact that your God doesn't exist blah blah blah ***
Please link to a peer-reviewed and published scientific paper that unequivocally proves that God does not exist.

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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 08-08-2012, 09:57 PM

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Please link to a peer-reviewed and published scientific paper that unequivocally proves that God does not exist.

You have one hour.

Yours in Christ,

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Ten hours later....

.... still waiting for this scientific proof.


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Ten hours later....

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Default Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! - 05-27-2014, 07:04 AM

How can gravity be false? I just don't understand.
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