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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 06:51 PM

Where exactly in the KJV Bible does it mention the pope? I've only read it cover-to-cover about 11 times, and I don't recall.

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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 06:51 PM

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REV 12:1 Mary is the woman with the crown of twelve stars ergo Queen of Heaven and the Church.
Later in the chapter, we read that she was given eagle's wings to fly into the wilderness. How many of your idols depict that?

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1 Corinthian 4:16
Best way to venerate saints is to imitate them.
A text without a context is a pretext.

1 Cor. 4:14-16: I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn [you]. though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet [have ye] not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

It looks a bit different now, doesn't it?

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Romans 13:7
We are to give honor where honor is due. When we honor God's children, we honor God himself, for HE is the source of all honor.
Again, look to the context.

Romans 13:1-7: Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

It's a command to obey secular law.

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Gen 14:8
First time the word priest is used. Melchizadek ( who's order Jesus belonged to) offers BREAD AND WINE to God.
Therefore?

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Psalm 110:4
Zechariah 9:15-16
2 Chronicles 26:18
Only priests ordained by God can perform the sacrifice to God.
You are aware, I trust, that we no longer do the OT sacrifices.

Hebrews 10:11-13: And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

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God saved Abraham's son from sacrifice by offering the ram as a substitute. Its a foreshadow to the requirement to sacrifice Israel's true king and the firstborn of God. JESUS.
That doesn't exactly help your point. As I've already explained to you, Jesus was sacrificed once, not during every Mass.

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Psalm78:24-25 ; 104:5. Raining manna from heaven. Jesus is the bread from heaven. All who eat this bread shall never die.
Yes, we've read John chapter 6, the Catholics' supposed clobber passage, but Jesus is our spiritual bread:

John 6:63: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 06:52 PM

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I am sorry but they are right...he is in HEAVEN with God the holy spirit and Jesus! God is not so cruel as to punish a child who died at birth. You should know and trust ghat God is not so unmerciful he is very merciful. That is why they said he isn't in limbo it should have been obvious to you he was now in heaven.
God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 06:58 PM

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Where exactly in the KJV Bible does it mention the pope? I've only read it cover-to-cover about 11 times, and I don't recall.

Yours in Christ (NOT DEAD MARY),

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Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.


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Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.
The Bible describes the concept, even if it doesn't use that exact word. Now please explain how the Bible teaches even the concept of the papacy.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:04 PM

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God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.
Jeremiah 1:5
Before thou gamest out of the womb I sanctified thee.
Matthew9:14 But Jesus said, " Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven
Matthew5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart : for they shall see God.
A child aborted or who has died in childbirth shall go to heaven because they have not yet sinned.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:05 PM

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Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.
The word "trinity" is not mentioned in the Bible.

Please, read the thing before making an ass of yourself.

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God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.
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The word "trinity" is not mentioned in the Bible.

Please, read the thing before making an ass of yourself.

YiC,

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Person, look at what the pastor above my last post said.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:19 PM

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Person, look at what the pastor above my last post said.
I was responding to what YOU said:

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Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.
You made the preposterous claim that the word "trinity" is in the Bible. It is not.

We deal with facts here, not italian fairy tales.



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Jeremiah 1:5
Before thou gamest out of the womb I sanctified thee.
Matthew9:14 But Jesus said, " Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven
Matthew5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart : for they shall see God.
A child aborted or who has died in childbirth shall go to heaven because they have not yet sinned.
Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

We've all sinned.

Psalm 51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Yes, even babies.

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

No belief, no salvation.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:21 PM

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The Bible describes the concept, even if it doesn't use that exact word. Now please explain how the Bible teaches even the concept of the papacy.
Revelation 3:7-8 the key of David.
PETER THE FIRST POPE HOLDS THE KEY
Lev 16:3 Aaron puts on the miter the Pope where's a miter

Matthew 16:8-9
upon this rock I will build my Church.
Numbers 11:14-17


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Revelation 3:7-8 the key of David.
PETER THE FIRST POPE HOLDS THE KEY
Lev 16:3 Aaron puts on the miter the Pope where's a miter

Matthew 16:8-9
upon this rock I will build my Church.
Numbers 11:14-17
Peter never puts on a mitre (yes, that's the way it is spelled).



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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:26 PM

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Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

We've all sinned.

Psalm 51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Yes, even babies.

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

No belief, no salvation.


In sin did MY MOTHER conceive me. Honestly what can a child do in the womb by itself. God created man to worship him and he knew us before we were born so babies haven't sinned yet because they can't and they know God and because they know God and he knows them they are saved.


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Revelation 3:7-8 the key of David.
PETER THE FIRST POPE HOLDS THE KEY
Again, what does that have to do with anyone after Peter?

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Lev 16:3 Aaron puts on the miter the Pope where's a miter
Pagan priests also put on mitres.

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You've just proved that the Pope is a pagan priest.

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Matthew 16:8-9
upon this rock I will build my Church.
Already addressed above.

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Numbers 11:14-17
What does Moses have to do with it?


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In sin did MY MOTHER conceive me.
Congratulations: You've just denied your own church's interpretation of that verse.


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Peter never puts on a mitre (yes, that's the way it is spelled).

You sir are meticulous. So it never flat out said that Jesus missed being with his Father but you know he did.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:39 PM

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You sir are meticulous. So it never flat out said that Jesus missed being with his Father but you know he did.
It doesn't mention Jesus wearing a mitre, either.



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Congratulations: You've just denied your own church's interpretation of that verse.
How? Please explain to me. And have you read the Catholic Catechism or the apocrypha of our Bible. Maybe if you did you can prove how wrong I am and when I contradict myself.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:45 PM

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It doesn't mention Jesus wearing a mitre, either.

Jesus doesn't have to. He is God not the pope you should know that.


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How? Please explain to me. And have you read the Catholic Catechism or the apocrypha of our Bible. Maybe if you did you can prove how wrong I am and when I contradict myself.
Even though you ignore every post of mine to you (a decent, Godly person always speaks when spoken to) I'll continue to try to get through to you.
You interpert. You think you know better than God.

When the disciples had the Bible written for God, God reviewed it. God never told them to dumb it down further for the catlicks. No. God gave the Bible his stamp of approval and off to the printers. God felt the Bible told things just how He wanted them said.
No where in the Holy Bible are the words (or anythng like it) 'J/K' or 'Wing it' or 'Change to Suit'. No. God had it written to say what is says. Period.
Are you trying to tell everyone that a pope knows better than God? That only the current pope knows 'the truth' and all the popes before him were idiots and wrong?


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