[Jacob the Angry Liar]

1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

Mooslimes and mormons are going against the LORD God. I seem to remember the user Truepath stating that Islam was the right religion, because God had spoken to Muhammad after the Bible was written, making the Bible obsolete and the Quran the accurate, up-to-date word of God.

The key point here is

3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

This is a bit unclear in King James English, but let's look at several translations to clarify.

you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. (NIV)

you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. (NKJV)

you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. (NAS)

From this, it is clear that Muhammad was sent by the LORD to test the people whether or not they believed in Him. Muhammad tried to lure people away from Christianity into a cult of pagan false god worship (Islam), and was successful to some degree. The same is true for the foudner of the mormon religion, Joseph Smith.

These prophets were sent by God to test the people, not to spread His true word. His true word is already published in the 1611 KJV Authorized Holy Bible!

The commands of verse 5:

5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

came true. Muhammad died of illness. This illness was obviously brought about by God to punish him for his wickedness and for luring Christians into his pagan cult. Likewise, Joseph Smith was imprisioned and executed by three True Christians™, doing as God commanded, namely putting this "prophet" to death.

In conclusion, the religions of mooslime and mormon are clearly false religions, and were not intended to be followed by anyone. All followers shall burn in the deepest pits of Hell.

[A Follower]

Bibles other than the KJV 1611 are incorrect and can only serve to obscure the meaning of the Holy Word, not clarify.

To show how the cult of the pedophile is wrong there are other verses you can use, I recommend:
2 John 1:7-9 which explains that Mohammed is an antichrist.
Matthew 7:15-23 Bad prophets are like bad trees: they produce bad fruit. Suicide bombers murdering civilians and, even worse, our brave Christian troops are a clear example of bad fruit.
Jeremiah 14:14-16 Followers of false prophets will die by famine and by the sword. Any muslim country that borders a non-muslim country: there is war between them. Any mixed religion country with muslims as one of them: there is civil war. And all muslim countries suffer from domestic terrorism.

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

I think you misunderstood. That's what it IS saying in the KJV passage, it's just harder to understand because we're not used to that language nowadays. Quoting other Bibles isn't obscuring it because it's the same thing, just worded differently. It is true that the KJV is the most accurate translation, meaning it's closest to what the original Scriptures were. That's why I quoted it first, and it's the Bible I use for all of my reading and quoting, unless I feel the need to quote other Bibles to make a point (like I did in this thread). Thank you for the verses though. It's yet more proof that Islam is a pagan cult of Satan.

[WWJDnow]

Originally Posted by A Follower

Bibles other than the KJV 1611 are incorrect and can only serve to obscure the meaning of the Holy Word, not clarify.

Originally Posted by Jacob11

Quoting other Bibles isn't obscuring it because it's the same thing, just worded differently.

You're both obviously good Christians, and I hate to take sides, but I'm afraid I have to agree with A Follower this time.

It is true that the KJV is the most accurate translation, meaning it's closest to what the original Scriptures were.

The KJV is actually an improvement upon the original Scriptures. For example, in 1 Samuel we learn that David killed Goliath:

And David said unto Ahimelech, And is there not here under thine hand spear or sword? for I have neither brought my sword nor my weapons with me, because the king's business required haste. And the priest said, The sword of Goliath the Philistine, whom thou slewest in the valley of Elah, behold, it is here wrapped in a cloth behind the ephod: if thou wilt take that, take it.... 1 Samuel 21:8-9

Yet, in the original Hebrew, 2 Samuel 21:19 says:

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew Goliath the Gittite.... 2 Samuel 21:19

How can this be? They didn't both slay Goliath. Yet if you look in the KJV, you'll see the following:

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite... 1 Samuel 21:19

See? The KJV translators corrected the error in the original text. In fact, every word in the KJV that is in italic text is an improvement upon the original. This is proof that only the KJV is Certified By God™ to be 100% divinely inspired.

[Hebrew90]

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My point of view is what ever happened to turn the other cheek? or show mercy.

by the things you say is going against Jesus. Jesus stands for love, mercy, hope, and forgiveness, these Muslims,Jews are our Brothers misguided they may be but nerveless there still of the root of Abraham.

Christians, Jews, Muslims come from the root of Abraham. so by us seeking revenge on Muslims is being no better then them.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

fyi-im not unsaved trash-

No one cares about what you think about your forum title. Until you prove otherwise, that's what you are.

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

My point of view is what ever happened to turn the other cheek? or show mercy.

Your entire view of Christianity is based on a single verse? If you're going to post to a forum, at least read the introduction thread that addresses this question. Would you like a link?

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

by the things you say is going against Jesus.

Please cite scripture to support your claim. We use the entire Bible, not just a small section.

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

our Brothers misguided they may be

mooslims consider a pedophile (fact proven by their own holy book!) to be the most moral man alive. Sorry, no, I do not consider them Brothers.

Do you see pedophilia as a lifestyle choice? Why are you tolerant of them?

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

revenge on Muslims is being no better then them.

Learn first, speak later. We clearly do not wish to hurt them. We wish for all the mooslims, joos, homersexuals prostitutes and so on to come to Heaven WITH US. The exact procedures are outlined in the Bible.

[Hebrew90]

i read all the bible when i was 8 i know what im talking about--theres a big difference from the Old Testament to the New Testament there alot of thing stated in the New Testament that dismiss the old ways of thinking, like for instance Sacrifices, Jesus is the Ultimate Sacrifice, same goes for Showing love and compassion to our enemy and not to stone them. to know ones enemy you must get to know them, Muslims do not be that Pedophiles are more moral lol site which verse in the Quran that is in? i have had many Muslim Friends/co-workers that i would be happy to call my Brothers. ive read the Torah ive read the Quran, the reason you believe this is because you heard it from somewhere that isn't Legit..when you talk about things make sure u bring evidence to support your claims.. have you read the Quran? have you read the Bible? have you even be befriended a Muslim.. you know what Jesus would?? he would befriend a Muslim, he would befriend a child rapist Jesus unlike you had no Boundaries to whom he as friends with.. to be Christian is to be Christ like

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Originally Posted by Hebrew90

theres a big difference from the Old Testament to the New Testament there alot of thing stated in the New Testament that dismiss the old ways of thinking, like for instance Sacrifices, Jesus is the Ultimate Sacrifice, same goes for Showing love and compassion to our enemy and not to stone them.

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6)


The LORD does not change, and neither do His views.
Apparently, my sons won't be going to Hell either.

[Petal]

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnes

(Mr.Hebroo, that be 2Tim 3:16, an that be in the new testamint. old testamint scripktures be just as goods as new testamints )

[Aristotle]

Matthew 5:17

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

[StarrKingGrad]

Originally Posted by Jacob11

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6)


The LORD does not change, and neither do His views.

Oh, really? What about these passages:

And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. Exodus 32:14

If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. Jeremiah 18:8

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

Oh, really? What about these passages

Yes?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

Oh, really? What about these passages:

And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. Exodus 32:14

If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. Jeremiah 18:8

God it talking about when He made Himself man in the form of Jesus and Repented of His depravity (when Jesus was baptized) and forgave Himself of His sins.

It is all very simple.