[JewPincher]

Originally Posted by EuroTrashAthiest

Yes, but the Earth's gravitational pull pulls everything toward the center of the Earth. The balloon does not

Again, you don't even understand your own argument. Secular physicists believe that everything has a gravitational pull, including the balloon. That means that the balloon WILL pull everything in the universe towards it, even if it is insignificant.

But like Pastor Ezekiel already pointed out, gravity is not mentioned in the Holy Bible, therefore it is false.

[AusGuy]

Hi guys,

1. If you are in a car (in the passenger side) bring a ball along. When the car is travelling quickly (whilst still under the speed limit) throw the ball up in the air...

What happens?

This is a direct analogy to you jumping up from the earth. By the argument posited, the ball should go flying backwards at the same speed as the car, yet it doesn't. This is because the ball has the same momentum as the car (I may be wrong on the actual reasoning but this seems to be right but I can't be bothered to double check) so it travels with the car, it experiences no acceleration or deceleration - as do you when you jump from the Earth, you have the same momentum as the Earth so you are 'carried along' with it.

2. Slightly more difficult, but a correct analogy would be to have a solid ball (made up of rubber or something heavy), make it really large and then stick something really small to the bottom of it - let's see what the size should approximately be:

Let us assume that the following information is correct (after all we want to be fair and just as Jesus is)

http://www.thelackof.com/what-is-the...-to-the-earth/

In this case, if the ball was suspended in a aircraft hanger the size of a football stadium, the piece of paper would have to be less than 1/30th of an inch.

So the balloon thing just will not give us an accurate analogy - and even my attempt is probably wrong. What I am trying to get at, is this is not a fair or just test, so we can't use it.

3. From this experiment, I expect to be able to see any place on Earth as long as I get high enough? Now, what's really interesting is that if you are up really high (like in a plane) you see that the horizon is actually curved - now we can say that the Earth is flat AND curved (so it's like a circle) which explains why the edges are curved...

But let's say we have great eye-sight. So from Uluru (Ayres Rock), or rather at a height above it, I can see the Opera House in Sydney. But this is the limit of my eye-sight, I am unable to see anything past it because it looks like the Opera house is right on the edge of the Earth...but I know it's not so where is the curvature coming from?

I know 3 is a little flimsy so another take is, what is at the edge of the world? Why aren't there any photo's? Why isn't it a tourist attraction? Surely, there would be a lot of people who would want to visit the edge of the Earth? I mean, it would be big money so god-less corporations would certainly want to exploit it - and us...

Just food for thought....

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by AusGuy

tl:dr

Where do you go to church, friend? We want to get to know you!



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by AusGuy

Hi guys,

1. If you are in a car (in the passenger side) bring a ball along. When the car is travelling quickly (whilst still under the speed limit) throw the ball up in the air...

What happens?

Don't be so lazy and actually read this thread. Can you guess if this point has been covered few times already?

I'll give you a hint anyway.

1. If you are on top of a car (we are not inside the earth after all) bring a ball along. When the car is travelling quickly (whilst still under the speed limit) throw the ball up in the air...

What happens?

[Mother Of Seven]

Originally Posted by AusGuy

I know 3 is a little flimsy so another take is, what is at the edge of the world? Why aren't there any photo's?

[AusGuy]

Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban

Don't be so lazy and actually read this thread. Can you guess if this point has been covered few times already?

I'll give you a hint anyway.

1. If you are on top of a car (we are not inside the earth after all) bring a ball along. When the car is travelling quickly (whilst still under the speed limit) throw the ball up in the air...

What happens?

Ok, so in your situation you are now going against air molecules, that is, when we are 'stationary' on Earth the air molecules are travelling at the same speed as us - sometimes they go faster thereby creating wind (although apparently that's created by differences in air pressure but let's keep things simple) when we start going faster than 'stationary' we are met with 'resistance' from the air.

That's why, even if there is no wind when we start the car, there is quite a bit of wind when we are travelling quickly.

Why we do this in the car is that it is a self-contained system, that is, we can treat everything in the car as 'one thing' just like everything on the Earth is treated as one when they calculate the Earth's orbit - essentially everything on the Earth is so tiny compared to the Earth itself that they - at best - have very little (negligent) effect on the Earth's orbit.

As soon as you escape the Earth's 'pull' then it starts moving away from you (this occurs when you throw the ball up when you are on the roof of the car, you are no longer 'a part' of the car - actually you are but the ball is too small to stay a part of the car, whereas you are so that's why if you jump when you are on the roof you don't fall off - unless the wind blows you off.

[Zechariah Smyth]

So, you're saying you have a car that goes in to orbit around the Earth?

[AusGuy]

Ok,

I thought I was being civil, but looking at your badges just shows me how godless both you and this site are.

The main premise of Jesus was love you, all of you, blatantly disregard this, twist words of reason around to suit your own end and choose to ignore reasoning.

What really impresses me is how utterly rude, cruel and mean some of the posts are by 'valued' members.

Now, this is probably my mistake, I thought as true Christians you would be loving and caring I seem to be wrong.

I think if God actually had human emotions he/she/it would be utterly ashamed of you - and of most religions really. Luckily, God is so far beyond us that we can make such horrendous errors of belief and right conduct that when we die we will all realise how wrong we all were.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by AusGuy

Ok,

I thought I was being civil, but looking at your badges just shows me how godless both you and this site are.

The main premise of Jesus was love you, all of you, blatantly disregard this, twist words of reason around to suit your own end and choose to ignore reasoning.

What really impresses me is how utterly rude, cruel and mean some of the posts are by 'valued' members.

Now, this is probably my mistake, I thought as true Christians you would be loving and caring I seem to be wrong.

I think if God actually had human emotions he/she/it would be utterly ashamed of you - and of most religions really. Luckily, God is so far beyond us that we can make such horrendous errors of belief and right conduct that when we die we will all realise how wrong we all were.

Awesome!

Now, support all of your claims with Scripture as every True Christian™ here has done for years and years and years.



YiC,

Zech

[BibleIsFantasy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

I see no mention of this theory of gravity that you speak of in the Holy Bible.

Throw yourself down from the third floor of a building.

So you die, proving gravity and freeing us from part of the scum of earth.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by BibleIsFantasy

Throw yourself down from the third floor of a building.

So you die, proving gravity and freeing us from part of the scum of earth.

Why are you such a hater? Jesus died temporarily for you to be Saved® from His wrath: and all you csan do is hate on Him?

Shame on you, young lady.

YIC

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by AusGuy

...The main premise of Jesus was love...

Yes, but it was His definition of "love": "Do exactly as I say or burn in Hell forever".

John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

...you, all of you, blatantly disregard this, twist words of reason around to suit your own end and choose to ignore reasoning...

Please show where the True Christians™ are "twisting" instead of READING THE PLAIN ENGLISH AS IT IS IT PLAINLY WRITTEN IN PLAIN ENGLISH.

Or are you one of those who thinks that when the Bible says that (virgin) rape victims MUST marry their attackers then it obviously means something else (that has to agree with our 21st century secular-influenced morality)?

...I think if God actually had human emotions...

Then it wouldn't be God, now, would it?

Why would you worship something that's the same as you?

...Luckily, God is so far beyond us...

And aren't we all so fortunate to have someone here who has been blessed with such clear knowledge of the Almighty!!

So, tell me, when did God reveal all His majesty to you, and why did He reveal it to YOU ALONE out of the BILLIONS of humans on this planet?

...that we can make such horrendous errors of belief and right conduct that when we die we will all realise how wrong we all were.

Not only perfect knowledge of the nature of God, but perfect knowledge of everyone else's errors in belief AND conduct!

WOW. YOU HAVE BEEN SO BLESSED THAT YOU must have been dropped on your head repeatedly as a child, weren't you?

[Belzebuth666]

Do you know gravitation ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton...al_gravitation

Go over a mountain, you'll see the ground is not flat, it's curved !

[John Creeser]

Originally Posted by Belzebuth666

Do you know gravitation ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton...al_gravitation

Go over a mountain, you'll see the ground is not flat, it's curved !

Dear heathen - if you read through the thread you'll see this has been covered time and time again. And you post a wikipedia link to back up your preposterous claims?

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Belzebuth666

Do you know gravitation ?

This thread is not about gravity.

Go over a mountain, you'll see the ground is not flat, it's curved !

O.P. check Nº3 So I've taken up Rev'd Osborne's suggestion and spent the past week on top of a mountain. The air was crisp and clear. The views outstanding. There was a large valley featuring a broad plain big enough to hold a complete smaller mountain range with a 3rd range visible in the background, probably 80 miles away. The plain was flat.

[_praisegod_]

Love this!! I'm always looking for some real science experiments to teach my kids!

[_praisegod_]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.

That which is in motion wants to stay in motion, that which is at rest wants to stay at rest. When you are on the spinning earth, your body keeps spinning with the earth, even as you jump. Howeverm if you are on a truck and jump, the air will still rotate with the earth (why you don't slow down if you jump normally) and thus slow you down if you jump on a truck.

2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

Well yes, even if the earth was flat, people would still stay on the earth, instead of floating around, because of gravity. You need to stop thinking of south being downward, and north upwards. The centre of the earth is what everyone calls down, because it means the people in Australia can call their gravity down, and people in Canada can still call their gravity down, and it still fits.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

If you were in space, this trick would work beautifully. The problem is that the paper is still being attracted to the earth, more than the balloon, because the earth is bigger. To do this experiment accurately, you would need to do it in a place with no other gravity, which doesn't exist because even your body has gravity (though just a tiny amount).

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off

3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

No, you would see the top half of the earth, that's it. No one had ever seen the full earth from one place, though, because even if the earth was flat, no human eye would be able to see that far, let alone a camera, so don't bother showing me photoshopped 'pics'

I wrote a better response to this, but accidentally deleted it. As I said before, I'm lazy, so I not re-write it unless one of you asks for it, which it doubt anyways.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.

No, you would see it from a different angle.

[_praisegod_]

Originally Posted by _praisegod_

Love this!! I'm always looking for some real science experiments to teach my kids!

I know I changed my viewpoint very quickly, but my parents taught me more about logic and science, so I felt like I should share it with you people, too.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by _praisegod_

I know I changed my viewpoint very quickly, but my parents taught me more about logic and science, so I felt like I should share it with you people, too.

The only science you need is the Bible(KJV1611).

Did you know that pi is actually 3? So called secular science gets everything wrong

1 Kings 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

This is why we need to teach the controversy

YIC

[_praisegod_]

Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles

The only science you need is the Bible(KJV1611).

Did you know that pi is actually 3? So called secular science gets everything wrong

1 Kings 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

This is why we need to teach the controversy

YIC

*cries*
What has happened to people these days. Here's an idea, measure the diameter and circumference, and see what you get. If it is not EXACTLY 3, then maybe you should learn to think for yourselves instead of just following some million year old book.

If I wrote a science-fiction novel Now, and left it for a few centuries, and people uncovered the new book, BAM!! A new religion with the potential to be as popular as Christianity is today would be born.