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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:12 AM

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Right then. How large is this dome? What is the radius? I wouldn't mind if you said the radius was 75 million kilometers.

And HOW DARE YOU PATHETIC WORM CALL ME UNEDUCATED? I hope that whatever fake deity you worship damns you to hell for aeons, you stupid insect. Go die, bitch.
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When exactly did you perform these measurements? Or are you just taking them on faith from some scientist.

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:13 AM

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It's not insulting to call you uneducated.

You haven't read the only book that matters (The Holy Bible), that makes you a big dummy!

Don't take it out on me, it's not my fault.
My A Level Physics textbook matters more than the Bible, because, unlike the Bible, it's not fiction. And it IS your fault, you called me uneducated, and I will not take that, because I KNOW I am more educated than you.

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:15 AM

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My A Level Physics textbook matters more than the Bible, because, unlike the Bible, it's not fiction. And it IS your fault, you called me uneducated, and I will not take that, because I KNOW I am more educated than you.
If you were more educated than me you'd be a True Christian.

You're not a True Christian, ergo, you're not more educated.

It's basic. If you weren't so ignorant you'd know that.

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Well, I guess this is an example of someone not intelligent enough to understand what they read.

I'm sorry. Please don't be angry at me, sometimes people don't comprehend what they read and it's not your fault. You mean well, you're doing the best you can.

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:19 AM

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My A Level Physics textbook matters more than the Bible, because, unlike the Bible, it's not fiction. And it IS your fault, you called me uneducated, and I will not take that, because I KNOW I am more educated than you.

And yes, I have read the bible, cover to cover. I have mine right next to me in my bookcase.
You're in high school and I have a BSc. along with a BBA, but you're more educated? I believe others on this board have their PhD's. I know many of the Pastors have their doctorates in Theology. But you're more educated.

What's A-level? Assisted? Asinine?


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:19 AM

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Demons, we're infested with demons today.

When exactly did you perform these measurements? Or are you just taking them on faith from some scientist.

Oh and Cursed is a True Christian man, not a female dog. Yes, you're uneducated, in fact down right retarded if you can't tell the difference.
This 300 second time limit is annoying me.

I can tell the differece, I was using a corruption of the word, as a derogatory, used to imply distaste towards somebody.

I'm taking these measurements in faith from a scientist, like you're taking your beliefs that it's 500 miles away from your faith in God.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:22 AM

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My A Level Physics textbook matters more than the Bible, because, unlike the Bible, it's not fiction. And it IS your fault, you called me uneducated, and I will not take that, because I KNOW I am more educated than you.

And yes, I have read the bible, cover to cover. I have mine right next to me in my bookcase.
How would you know your physics book isn't fiction? Who wrote it? What political agenda does he follow? Has he performed any miracles? Is there any aspect to his being that prevents him from lying? And is it printed exactly as written or has the printer changed anything? Does it come with a list of errata? Has it changed in any way since the first edition was printed? I sincerely doubt you can answer all (or even any) of these questions satisfactorily.

The Bible was written by God, so it is known to be correct and true, and it hasn't needed to change at any time since it was written, it is as true today as the day it was completed, that tells you something about the care that was taken when it was written.

And if you have a physics textbook with you then you obviously haven't even completed your stint at public school, to call yourself educated when you haven't been educated is a bit conceited, don't you think?


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:24 AM

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This 300 second time limit is annoying me.

I can tell the differece, I was using a corruption of the word, as a derogatory, used to imply distaste towards somebody.

I'm taking these measurements in faith from a scientist, like you're taking your beliefs that it's 500 miles away from your faith in God.
Oh right, how dare I take the word of the guy who made it over some dweeb in a lab coat.

Oh, and I see you're another atheist liar since you said you were 18 in order to join this board. But all atheists are like that.


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:31 AM

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You're in high school and I have a BSc. along with a BBA, but you're more educated? I believe others on this board have their PhD's. I know many of the Pastors have their doctorates in Theology. But you're more educated.

What's A-level? Assisted? Asinine?
In what, and from what University? And who says I'm in high-school? You don't know what an AS Level is so please don't impinge upon my intellect.

I'm got a 3.9, and an almost garanteed place at MIT, so I wouldn't go waving qualifications around if I were you.

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I'm got a 3.9, and an almost garanteed place at MIT, so I wouldn't go waving qualifications around if I were you.
I'm got something you got don't.


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:35 AM

It sounds to me like you are more likely to be "garanteed" a place in remedial American spelling and grammar classes at the YMCA.

I see a lot of vain, sass-mouthed babbling coming from your direction, but I don't see any Scripture provided to support your ridiculous assertions. How can we take your arguments seriously when you don't base them on Biblical evidence?


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:43 AM

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It sounds to me like you are more likely to be "garanteed" a place in remedial American spelling and grammar classes at the YMCA.

I see a lot of vain, sass-mouthed babbling coming from your direction, but I don't see any Scripture provided to support your ridiculous assertions. How can we take your arguments seriously when you don't base them on Biblical evidence?
Don't need to spell to do Computer Science.

And I don't like your tone. You might talk to some people like that, and I'm sure they just sit down and take it, but I won't. If you want my respect, you show me some, Sir.

Scripture? As proof? Absurd. I have certificates, not some half-baked faith in an invisible thing.

On a side note, the language you're speaking is American ENGLISH, not American, Friend. I think you need to go back to History 101.

Finally, it's spelt "Asssertations", not "Assertions".
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Don't need to spell to do Computer Science.
Yes you do. You'll learn that someday if you keep trying, plucky!

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And I don't like your tone.
Then leave our home, you uninvited piece of garbage!

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You might talk to some people like that, and I'm sure they just sit down and take it, but I won't. If you want my respect, you show me some, Sir.
Not only are you uneducated, you are a rude savage! You be nice to Brother Jebediah, he's worth a thousand of you, you nasty thing!

Your parents haven't taught you any manners, so allow me to introduce the concept to you, squirt. When you visit someone's home uninvited (e.g. Landover Baptist Forum, the internet home of Landover Baptists) you should always be respectful and polite, even if you don't like what they say.

You do this because you would expect the same courtesy of uninvited guests to your home.

Do you understand now? Was that simple enough for you to get?

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Scripture? As proof? Absurd. I have certificates, not some half-baked faith in an invisible thing.
Why do you think certificates (writing on paper) are more important than the Holy Bible (inspired by GOD writing on paper)?

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On a side note, the language you're speaking is American ENGLISH, not American, Friend. I think you need to go back to History 101.
We speak AMERICAN here, friend, don't tell us what we speak. We don't tell you what to do in your home.

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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:56 AM

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It sounds to me like you are more likely to be "garanteed" a place in remedial American spelling and grammar classes at the YMCA.

I see a lot of vain, sass-mouthed babbling coming from your direction, but I don't see any Scripture provided to support your ridiculous assertions. How can we take your arguments seriously when you don't base them on Biblical evidence?
I don't know how to respond privately on here, so I will do it here.

First and foremost, you will NEVER be my better. Elder, maybe - and I respect my elders, but not when they try to glance down at me from a great height. But not better.

Secondly, I will use my tounge however I see fit. I have chosen my words carefully, and if you want to supress my beliefs, that's fine - go ahead and ban me.

Thridly, I do believe an apology is in order. My tone may have been harsh, but that is just how I speak. It was a simple request for scripture, and I apologise for my harshness. Let's leave it there, becaus that is all you're going to be getting, Friend.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 02:57 AM

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In what, and from what University? And who says I'm in high-school? You don't know what an AS Level is so please don't impinge upon my intellect.
Oh, so it is Assisted Services. Yeah, the liebrals like to use all sorts of fancy words for retarded.

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I'm got a 3.9, and an almost garanteed place at MIT, so I wouldn't go waving qualifications around if I were you.
MIT takes retards now? The difference being, I'm done, you haven't even started.

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God's existance cannot be proven via a book, so it is therefore impossible for it to be correct and true. Nobody saw him write it, and nobody know where he got his knowledge from. Therefore you cannot say in any way that your book is more valid than mine.
Yet because some scientist writes something in a book it's true, even though it's impossible to prove it correct or true. Isn't that the height of hypocrisy.

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I know that he "Dweeb in a lab coat" wrote it because I have met him. He is corporeal, and tangible. Where is your God? Have you seen him? Is he solid and tangible?
Really? You met a guy who measured the distance from the earth to the sun? I would really like to meet this guy! Please let me know where he teaches, especially since nobody has ever flown to the sun so there is no way that anyone has actually measured it.

So once again, you prove you are nothing but a liar, but we're supposed to take your word over the TRUE AND LIVING GOD.


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I don't know how to respond privately on here, so I will do it here.
You don't know a lot of things.

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First and foremost, you will NEVER be my better.
WRONG. Brother Jebediah is one of the finest men I know, and I would give my life for him.

You? You are WORTHLESS.

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Elder, maybe - and I respect my elders, but not when they try to glance down at me from a great height. But not better.
If you know enough to respect your elders, you should know the rules of common courtesy, and you wouldn't be here arguing.

But you don't, so you don't, so you are. The proof is in the pudding.

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Secondly, I will use my tounge however I see fit.
Not for long unless you change your ways.

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I have chosen my words carefully, and if you want to supress my beliefs, that's fine - go ahead and ban me.
I won't ever ban you! I like to keep a dummy around to amuse me.

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Thridly, I do believe an apology is in order. My tone may have been harsh, but that is just how I speak. It was a simple request for scripture, and I apologise for my harshness. Let's leave it there, becaus that is all you're going to be getting, Friend.
Apology accepted, friend. I will no longer rebuke you, as long as you behave!


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 03:08 AM

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If you know enough to respect your elders, you should know the rules of common courtesy, and you wouldn't be here arguing.

But you don't, so you don't, so you are. The proof is in the pudding.



Not for long unless you change your ways.



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I will ignore all but the last sentence in order to try and make peace.

My point WAS, when I was a Christian, I just couldn't see any proof around me for anything I was being told, so please don't get me wrong, I am quite open to proof - in fact I encourage it, I would like to be pursuaded back into Christianity, but I can't find any myself. Maybe somebody could help.
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-19-2011, 03:12 AM

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I will ignore all but the last sentence in order to try and make peace.

My point WAS, when I was a Christian, I just couldn't see any proof around me for anything I was being told, so please don't get me wrong, I am quite open to proof - in fact I encourage it, I would like to be pursuaded back into Christianity, but I can't find any myself. Maybe somebody could help.
So you were a Christian, but you have spit in Jesus eye, and denied that the Holy Spirit exists? Well I guess there's no hope for you.
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For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-20-2011, 11:35 PM

If the sun is only 500 miles from the surface of the earth (if it's flat like you guys believe) than the sun would be the length of a good size state away. So when it's in one spot that would make it thousands of miles away from other parts of the earth. You're entire logic is flawed. It doesn't make sense. How can you ever have noon?
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Default Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? - 04-21-2011, 12:03 AM

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Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

Here is the proof:

To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

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I always wondered about this, thanks for posting this. Also would it be safe to visit the sun at night?
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I always wondered about this, thanks for posting this. Also would it be safe to visit the sun at night?
Well, it would be safe to visit if it were possible to travel into the upper firmament. However, everyone knows that only happens when you die and (if you are a lucky one like me) go to Heaven. Otherwise, it is just something to ponder about, like where Noah got his nails from.
If you want, after you cook a sucking pig in the smoker, use the garden hose and put the coals out. Dump then one the floor and walkon them. That will be just like the Sun at night.


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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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