[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by -Godless-

The paintings of him created the first explicit gay cult in the 19th century, thats the 1800's! so get your facts correct or don't speak.

him: I have no idea who "Sebastian" is - anyone whose name starts with "saint" is obviously a catholic, fully possessed by demons in life and a false idol to satan in death.

The first "explicit gay cult" did not emerge in the 19th century. You are several millennia out (a fairly small error by your standards but I'll correct it none-the-less for that):

GENESIS 13
10 And Lot lifted vp his eyes, and beheld all the plaine of Iordane, that it was well watered euery where before the Lord destroyed Sodome and Gomorah, euen as the garden of the LORD, like the land of Egypt, as thou commest vnto Zoar.
13 But the men of Sodome were wicked, and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.
©1611

So a once idyllic garden, as favoured by many sex perverts: why were the men of these cities of the plain singled out by God for special remark? One day Lot had two visitors. God explains that they were angels but to the flourishing "gay cult" of that era they were not angels they were new openings for sodomy and debauch. Do please note that this "cult" extended over the whole city and that the date is 1897BC.

So these wretches come knocking on Lot's door. Why?

Now I like to get my facts correct, having an irrational fear of impudent minds spewing lies without back up, so checked out historical records from the 19th century BC and lo the question Why? is answered!

These male perverts are swarming around Lot's house screeching and banging and here is what they say:

GENESIS 19
5 And they called vnto Lot, and said vnto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out vnto vs, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the doore vnto them, & shut the doore after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, doe not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I haue two daughters, which haue not knowen man; let mee, I pray you, bring them out vnto you, and doe ye to them, as is good in your eyes: onely vnto these men do nothing: for therefore came they vnder the shadow of my roofe.
9 And they said, Stand backe. And they said againe, This one fellow came in to soiourne, and he will needs bee a Iudge: Now wil we deale worse with thee, then with them. And they pressed sore vpon the man, euen Lot, and came neere to breake the doore.
10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the doore.
11 And they smote the men that were at the doore of the house, with blindnes, both small and great: so that they wearied themselues to finde the doore.
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It is quite clear that these are homosexual perverts. They have no interest in the two young women offered up for rape and debauchery even (if you can understand the context, which you probably can't) to the extent of cannibalism [verse8] and they are blasted with the consequences of their cultic obsession.

I don't think it's necessary to follow up any of the (dubious) items you mention but I did notice:

Without creativity no one would have thought of paper, or how to write, or how to bind books, or the printing press, or hard cover books, thus we would have no written record of his work and no religion except for that strange religion they have over in africa

It may have escaped your attention that historical records, laws, religious documents, literature (for example Aristophanes, Athens, c400BC), architectural plans (for example the Pyramid of Djoser, Egypt, 2648BC) calendric notifications (Decree of Canopus, Ptolemy III, 238BC) and taxation exemption certificates (Rosetta Stone, Ptolemy V, 196BC) all predate the invention of books, printing presses, hard covers and in some cases paper and since you have mentioned African Traditional Religion I will add the information that homosexual cults have existed there from the very earliest times. With an actual source. LINK

from PAGE 49 Muslims and arna (pagan) believe in the same spirits, but Muslims claim that they do not need to perform rituals to these spirits. However, many do perform them, depending on the occasion, and additionally they consult the Bori doctor for aid.
One finds the ‘yan daudu in these marginal areas of religion. In this system, men who are more or less exclusive homosexuals (not always, but often transvestite or at least effeminate males) have sexual relationships with men not culturally distinguished from other men.

PAGE 50 Significantly, there is some discussion of males who attend Bori rituals as being homosexuals.
The Bori rituals among the Hausa appear to be rituals of inversion and among the Hausa homosexuality is considered an inversion of appropriate male heterosexuality. The Bori cult is widely understood as being a refuge from the strongly patriarchal ideal of Hausa Islam … Although the Bori cult may be a “survival” from pre-Islamic Hausa religion, it differs among the Muslim Hausa from that practiced among related peoples, such as the Gungawa, or among non-Muslim Hausa, such as the Maguzawa. It has a different meaning for these Hausa. Thus, when Fremont E. Besmer (1983) states that the spirit rides the possessed and that this is somehow a symbol of homosexuality, it does not mean that it has the same meaning for the Maguzawa, Gungawa, or other non-Muslim groups who have the Bori cult. Among the Muslim Hausa homosexual transvestites, or ‘yan daudu, play a prominent role.
Daudu, a praise name for any Malidoma, or ranked title, here specifically refers to the Prince, a Bori spirit who is a handsome young man.

I suppose I should point out that if the Hausa ‘yan dauda cult pre-dates Islam it also pre-dates "the 19th Century" (AD) "explicit gay cult" you reckon as first. Facts. Great, aren't they!

[-GodlessFool-]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

No. As you would know if you read the Bible, an antichrist is anyone who works against Jesus. Like you.




You am tiresome boob.

thank you for such a compliment, but you do not comprehend the entirety of the term "kin" it is not of just relation, but of also a sharing of goals or ideas across a small or large span of people. like if lets say you have a white man, a pakistani boy, a black girl and a indian woman, if they all have enough similarities they can be considered "kin" not the sort of thing you think of when you read the word "kin" but i assure you it is another way to use the word.

[-GodlessFool-]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

him:
The first "explicit gay cult" did not emerge in the 19th century. You are several millennia out (a fairly small error by your standards but I'll correct it none-the-less for that):
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©1611[/INDENT]So a once idyllic garden, as favoured by many sex perverts: why were the men of these cities of the plain singled out by God for special remark? One day Lot had two visitors. God explains that they were angels but to the flourishing "gay cult" of that era they were not angels they were new openings for sodomy and debauch. Do please note that this "cult" extended over the whole city and that the date is 1897BC.

So these wretches come knocking on Lot's door. Why?

Now I like to get my facts correct, having an irrational fear of impudent minds spewing lies without back up, so checked out historical records from the 19th century BC and lo the question Why? is answered!

These male perverts are swarming around Lot's house screeching and banging and here is what they say:

©1611[/INDENT]It is quite clear that these are homosexual perverts. They have no interest in the two young women offered up for rape and debauchery even (if you can understand the context, which you probably can't) to the extent of cannibalism [verse8] and they are blasted with the consequences of their cultic obsession.

I don't think it's necessary to follow up any of the (dubious) items you mention but I did notice:

It may have escaped your attention that historical records, laws, religious documents, literature (for example Aristophanes, Athens, c400BC), architectural plans (for example the Pyramid of Djoser, Egypt, 2648BC) calendric notifications (Decree of Canopus, Ptolemy III, 238BC) and taxation exemption certificates (Rosetta Stone, Ptolemy V, 196BC) all predate the invention of books, printing presses, hard covers and in some cases paper and since you have mentioned African Traditional Religion I will add the information that homosexual cults have existed there from the very earliest times. With an actual source. LINK

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I suppose I should point out that if the Hausa ‘yan dauda cult pre-dates Islam it also pre-dates "the 19th Century" (AD) "explicit gay cult" you reckon as first. Facts. Great, aren't they!

1. the bible makes no exact year rference to when exactly this took place
2. obviously the entire city was not a "explicit cult", most men and boys were but if it was an explicit cult then how would there be children or how would Lot have boys that were to marry his children. if it was a explicit cult there would be no males willing to take on a wife because it would go against the cult. even today it is dangerous to leave a cult or to disobey its rules.
3. i never, Never said that paper came before writing. i was merely rambling things that we would not have without creativity. if i wanted to say paper came before writing i would have said "Paper THEN writing"
4. i may have meant (AD) but i never specified so TECHNICALLY i wasnt completely wrong.
yes facts are grand.

i do have to thank you for your input, you see i was only posting that to prove that one persons saddly niave mind about the past was wrong. though i was wrong, which i full-heartedly admit, you just rebounded that message about there being homosexuals in the past.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by -GodlessFool-

Sir you are a satanic who relishes in the ideas of satan, here is your lord for you, smiling at you

More proof that the term 'Sir' is only used to soften the tirade of insults that is soon to follow.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

More proof that the term 'Sir' is only used to soften the tirade of insults that is soon to follow.

There clearly wasn't any pompous crap he could dream up so he was stuck with being an ass.

[-GodlessFool-]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

There clearly wasn't any pompous crap he could dream up so he was stuck with being an ass.

oh ouch, i am hurt by this.

[-GodlessFool-]

i very much enjoy this website, what a wonderful job done here.

[Noah Sole]

Originally Posted by -GodlessFool-

i very much enjoy this website, what a wonderful job done here.

First sensible thing you've said.

YIC

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by -GodlessFool-

i very much enjoy this website, what a wonderful job done here.

I knew our honest love of scripture and lack of shame about God would win him over in the end.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by -GodlessFool-

1. the bible makes no exact year rference to when exactly this took place

it was pre-TheDeadSea though; work out the date & let us know.

how would Lot have boys that were to marry his children.

He didn't.

if it was a explicit cult there would be no males willing to take on a wife

There weren't.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by -GodlessFool-

2. obviously the entire city was not a "explicit cult", most men and boys were but if it was an explicit cult then how would there be children or how would Lot have boys that were to marry his children. if it was a explicit cult there would be no males willing to take on a wife because it would go against the cult. even today it is dangerous to leave a cult or to disobey its rules.

So God was unjust when He destroyed the whole city of sinners? Can you hear yourself? They were sodomising each other. I wouldn't put it past some of them to be bisexual even! God had to burn them all and save the only righteous man in the city, Lot.

Lot rather famously had no sons and had sex with his daughters while drunk, impregnating both.

Genesis 19:30-38
30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. 37And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. 38And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

[CookieEpic]

It's just a game about building and being creative. You can build whatever you want with all of the blocks in the world, and build houses to survive the night.
You can farm crops and animals, and keep on building.
It's just a game about creativity. What's so wrong with that?

[Noah Sole]

Originally Posted by CookieEpic

What's so wrong with that?

Read the 141 pages of posts on this thread and then come back if you still can't understand

[Saviortothegamer]

You miss understand friends, Catholics worship God and Jesus more than anything. There is only a few prayers having to do with worshiping Mary. also i think that Mary is a fine example of a christian woman. never had sex, was a true christian to the end and is seated near god at his bountiful table, these heathens are nearly driven mad with Satan's power. we must try to save them even if they don't want to be saved. It would be the True Christian thing to do!

PRAISE THE LORD

Saviortothegamer

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Saviortothegamer

...There is only a few prayers having to do with worshiping Mary...

One is too many.

Exodus 34:14 "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:"

Does that sound like He's willing to share the glory?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by Saviortothegamer

You miss understand friends, Catholics worship God and Jesus more than anything. There is only a few prayers having to do with worshiping Mary. also i think that Mary is a fine example of a christian woman. never had sex, was a true christian to the end and is seated near god at his bountiful table, these heathens are nearly driven mad with Satan's power. we must try to save them even if they don't want to be saved. It would be the True Christian thing to do!

PRAISE THE LORD

Saviortothegamer

You do realise that Priests are in the business of turning the cottage industrial of pedophillia into an industrial scale buggery industry?

And the evil pope sanctions all kinds of alimentary abuse or colonic conquering of young, naive (often crying), vibrant, young males?

You may not also know but the patent of all the county's CCTV is held by the Vatican and they technically own all the rights to recorded images? Guess which images they requisition?

That's right: anything that shows a papist's penile member pervertedly penetrating a pert young pious alterboy's anal alleyway.

Defending papistry is like invading a small boy's bottom: there are no circumstances that warrant it.

People like you make me sick.

All the best.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Saviortothegamertard

You miss understand friends, Catholics worship God and Jesus more than anything. There is only a few prayers having to do with worshiping Mary.

One is far too many.

also i think that Mary is a fine example of a christian woman. never had sex,

Do tell, how did Jesus have brothers if Mary didn't have sex?

[solaron]

alright, first, let's get one thing straight.

griefing does NOT involve sexual slavery AT ALL. all it is is simply destroying other people's work. sometimes it's simple, like the use of TNT, and sometimes it's quite elaborate, like taking out each block one by one, leaving it with no trace of ever having existed. in any case, the result is that it's just gone. and a person can do it on their own, albeit the player who does it is an annoying one.

secondly, minecraft allows you to play with your friends and build certain things that would be impossible in real life. that's what makes the game so fun to play a lot of the time.

finally, the big balls. really? REALLY? those are feet, people. get it right. plus, how can you jerk off in minecraft if you can't even move your arms too much?

you people meed to actually play the game before you go on such a rant like this. true, i am a christian, but even i know that you people are simply over reacting. use your head before someone thinks we're all nutjobs, ok?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by solaron

Apologetic drivel for perversion

i am a christian,

I very much doubt you are a Christian. Why are you here mocking God's favourite forum when you could be on your knees accepting Jesus within you?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by solaron

use your head before someone thinks we're all nutjobs, ok?

First, you are not part of "we" so your nut jobbery isn't reflective of us True Christians™, thankyouverymuch.

Secondly, you don't know this faith you profess to be a part of. Open up your Holy Bible, KJV1611, and start reading the words on the page. Don't assume you know what it says because you hear catchy phrases like "God loves the sinner but hates the sin" because that doesn't exist even if it does make fluffy-bunny Christian-wanna-be's happy.

Finally, proper grammar and punctuation go a long way in making one sound a bit more intelligent and let's face it, you need all the help you can get.