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Smile intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 06:36 PM

My name is Paul Adam

hey look at that what a wonderful religious name !

Anyway I came here to at least try to shed some light on your God hates Scotland thread as it is highly offensive and very un christian to judge people

So say hello if you can and I appreciate some intelligent discussion on the subject not blind ignorance and hatred to gods children
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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 06:44 PM

Oh good, some kind Admin person has moved this to its own thread, so that it is no longer intruding on another poster's introduction.

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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 06:48 PM

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Hello Mr. Adams. Are you married? How many sons have you sired? Are you ready for the rapture? I look forward to getting to know you properly.
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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 06:55 PM

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Hello Mr. Adams. Are you married? How many sons have you sired? Are you ready for the rapture? I look forward to getting to know you properly.

Hi Dr Toole

Sorry my surname Is Adam not Adam's

I have no children , there are 7 billion people on earth , 123 million orphans and 13 million of them have no parents so no need to sire any offspring.

I haven't been to church since I was in primary school maybe from the age of 10, I do attend events at churches for family members and family friends and personal friends.
I realised that I should read the bible myself and take from it my own understanding.

I have read the old testament , the new testament and the King James at some point through my young adulthood.

I am engaged to be married but not married as yet

but thanks for asking.

@Attilas Wife, sorry I was directed to introduce myself in the original thread by another member two-dollar-bill

@Naomi yeh sure let me just do as you command as not to interrupt your life !
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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 07:00 PM

Furthermore I'd appreciate it , as well as many others Scots
that you "not" refer to us collectively as Scotchmen or Scotchman
as that is factually incorrect and is derogatory.

The correct term is Scotsman, or Scotswoman , the Scotch you refer to is commonly known worldwide as Scotch whiskey not to be confused with the people.

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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 07:05 PM

Welcome (again) Paul Adam!

Maybe you can answer something for me, after you answer the others' questions. I heard that Scotland is going to vote to not be part of England anymore. Now, if that happens does that mean they have to change the English flag so that it doesn't have the blue parts from the Scottish flag on it anymore? Does that mean they would add parts of the Whales flag and maybe Northern Ireland (do they have a flag?)? I wonder what that would look like. Is this going to happen to do you think? Are a lot of Scottish people planning on voting to leave England?

Also, what does this mean?

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Alba gu brŕth
Or is that the thing you wanted to edit because of bad spelling?

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... there are 7 billion people on earth , 123 million orphans and 13 million of them have no parents so no need to sire any offspring.
Sorry, have I misunderstood or are you saying that there are 110 million orphans who DO have parents? Is this some meaning of the word orphan with which I am unfamiliar?

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I think you probably haven't, or you would know that the KJV consists of the Old and New Testaments. But perhaps you meant "in the King James Version", in which case I apologise as it is rude to flag up mere typos.

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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 07:28 PM

Hi again two dollar bill

The upcoming vote in September is not a vote on leaving England, as we are not part of England but part of the United Kingdom which before the act of Union used to be the Brittish Empire.

The English flag would remain the same as the St. Georges cross, as would the Scottish flag.
The Welsh have their own flag which is a the red dragon of Cadwaladr, King of Gwynedd, along with the Tudor colours of green and white.

Northern Ireland use the red hand of Ulster over the St Georges cross, of course a quick google search could have yeilded these results quicker , flags arent my sepcialty so you'd likely get more info from google than me.

I am not sure if the Brittish flag would be altered if Scotland were to gain independence, likely it would be altered but that is just speculation as I have seen no mention of it from parliament.

Alba gu brŕth - literally means Scotland forever and is of the Gaelic language the native tongue of the Scots and Irish again a simple google search would have confirmed this for you. Are you that used to being told how to think that you cant do it for yourself ?

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In the sense that of these orphans a large proportion have a surviving relative but whose parents are deceased i.e. Aunt or Uncle or grandparents

http://www.unicef.org/media/media_45279.html (world orphanage statistics)

With regards to the bible , I last read it when I was 11 or 12 so I apologise not knowing the fine details of the versions.
and I can guarantee I have as I was gifted them in my religious class by a Christian man from the Netherlands named Johan I still have the copy at my parents home he signed it for me I can go there and find it and scan it if you like, or will you stand by your assumption that I am a Liar?

My fiance' is agnostic , you know she reserves judgement on the concept of a creator of everything in the Universe until she personally confronts God , you know God shall judge us when we meet so she should be free to reserve her judgement being one of gods children she has this luxury to use her brain and the logic and reason to come to this conclusion , why else would have god given us this ability !
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My name is Paul Adam

hey look at that what a wonderful religious name !

Anyway I came here to at least try to shed some light on your God hates Scotland thread as it is highly offensive and very un christian to judge people

So say hello if you can and I appreciate some intelligent discussion on the subject not blind ignorance and hatred to gods children
Welcoem Mr. Adam. May I call you Paul? Terrific!

Well Paul what you think, on the surface, would be nice. Could you imagine being able to go through life and never have anyone judge you? All your tests, would be an 'A+'. You could ask for a raise and a promotion and get it just because you wanted it.
No Paul, life is not buttercups and everyone gets a prize. God commands good people (like True Christians™) to judge people like you. Lets see what His exact comments are, shall we?
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
(Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.


We may judge but nobody may judge us

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Pretty definite, right? God is nobodys fool, yes siree!
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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@Naomi yeh sure let me just do as you command as not to interrupt your life !
You're engaged to a very unlucky woman (assuming it is a woman) if you cannot keep a respectful tongue. I am certain the pastor will support me in this matter.

Hebrews 13:17 - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that [is] unprofitable for you.

Naomi Ruth 1:15 - And thou shalt live a life without pie, for thou hast used thy tongue as a barb and a sword unto others. Never shalt thou taste its moistness, neither shalt thou savour its joy; nay, its joy shalt thou not savour, for it is a gate closed unto you, an entryway that hath no door."

Enjoy hell, Scotchman.
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Hi again two dollar bill

Some answers to my innocently asked questions to someone who actually lives in the country involved…and then some snidely remarks about not being able to think for myself and other mean things.
Thanks for your input, although I'm not sure why you have to be so unkind while answering some simple questions. Yes, I could look things up on the internet but I thought you would be a better resource for information. I grew up in a world where "googling" things wasn't an option, we went to the library or had pen pals. I guess I'm just stubborn and like to get my information from my fellow human beings.

As I said, thanks, you've taught me some new things that I didn't know before.

Just not sure why you had to be so nasty about it, but you're not American so maybe you have a different way of interacting with people you don't even know.

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Are you ready for the rapture?.
I wanted to ask why you think I will have to prepare for rapture do you assume that I shall not be caught up in the clouds to meet our Lord?

You all seem very judgemental , quite the folly for a christian to judge others I would leave that to God
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In the sense that of these orphans a large proportion have a surviving relative but whose parents are deceased i.e. Aunt or Uncle or grandparents

http://www.unicef.org/media/media_45279.html (world orphanage statistics)
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UNICEF and global partners define an orphan as a child who has lost one or both parents.
Any reputable dictionary defines an orphan as a child who has lost both parents through death.

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With regards to the bible, I last read it when I was 11 or 12 so I apologise not knowing the fine details of the versions.
Time to read it again, perhaps? More thoroughly this time.

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or will you stand by your assumption that I am a Liar?
How dare you, young man! That is the most shameful abuse, as if you look back at my post you will see that I made no such assumption and even APOLOGISED IN ADVANCE in case I was mistaken!

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You all seem very judgemental , quite the folly for a christian to judge others I would leave that to God
He says. After this:

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Are you that used to being told how to think that you cant do it for yourself ?


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He says. After this:



So typical.

God had the Bible made.
For over 6,000 years, since time began, He has been telling everyone to read and follow it or suffer in Hell
Then every day, a person comes along and decides 'they know better than God, the Creator'.
If it were not for His Abundant Love, I do not think I could get out of bed each and every day!


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: intro from a scotchman - 03-21-2014, 08:12 PM

@ James I'm hardly the religious scholar but quoting me a wall of text doesn't serve to enlighten me.

Biblical passages which are written in an outdated langauge whose words are no longer spoken on earth can have different interpretations depending on where in the world they are to be read, no offense but I'd rather take the definition from a theologian unless of course you can put it into your own words , I'd rather hear your opinion afterall than the text from the bible. Thats how I'd get to know you as a person like you wish to get to know me also.

@two-dollar-bill, im not here to help you research the world and find out about cultural heritage or the history of countries , I too grew up without access to computers in school well pre internet anyway, all of the things I stated I learned about in school in history and geography books.

As innocent as they have been you have already made attempts to mock me and my cultural heritage so forgive me if my response came across as "snide" but I was taught to think for myself and form my own opinions through the acquisition of knowledge, however I am glad I could have imparted some knowledge to yourself , as they say you learn something new every day.

@Naomi, Hi again you all seem to make wild assumptions and speculate on things you have no knowledge of, my fiance' is a very lucky woman, she is truly blessed.

Sorry but I'm afraid that no one rules over me , and whats this Ruth 1;15 have you created your own biblical passages or your own interpretation of gods will ? Not very christian of you to take the divine word and reinterpret their meanings. That would be akin to God telling us that we are all equal and gods children and then you telling everyone that doesn't agree with your opinion that they are filth and will rot in hell , oh yeh sorry thats exactly what you have done!

Thanks for the brief exchange it never fails to amaze me the heights of some peoples ignorance
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...You all seem very judgemental , quite the folly for a christian to judge others...
Yes, you should read your Bible again. You must have missed this bit:

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

You can read it online here.


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@ James I'm hardly the religious scholar but quoting me a wall of text doesn't serve to enlighten me.

Biblical passages which are written in an outdated langauge whose words are no longer spoken on earth can have different interpretations depending on where in the world they are to be read, no offense but I'd rather take the definition from a theologian unless of course you can put it into your own words , I'd rather hear your opinion afterall than the text from the bible. Thats how I'd get to know you as a person like you wish to get to know me also.
Well Paul, you claimed to know that we had no right to judge you. I merely gave you some of the passages from the Holy Bible that tell us we MUST judge you.

Only a fool thinks they can 'interpret' the Word of God. Do you honestly (and are you so pompous) think you know better than Him?

My opinion is God is right, each and every time.
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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@ James I'm hardly the religious scholar but quoting me a wall of text doesn't serve to enlighten me.

Biblical passages which are written in an outdated langauge whose words are no longer spoken on earth
Hello sweetie. I was unaware that English was a dead language which (not whose, language is not a person) "words are no longer spoken on earth." Do you think this Godly forum is the last place on Earth where we still use it?



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can have different interpretations depending on where in the world they are to be read, no offense but I'd rather take the definition from a theologian unless of course you can put it into your own words , I'd rather hear your opinion afterall than the text from the bible.
It's written in plain English, what is to interpret?

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Sorry but I'm afraid that no one rules over me , and whats this Ruth 1;15 have you created your own biblical passages or your own interpretation of gods will ? Not very christian of you to take the divine word and reinterpret their meanings.
In the passage above you say we should interpret. Now you say we shouldn't. Make up your mind, sweetie!

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If you have ever read the Bible you would have known that He did not say that.
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