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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-18-2011, 07:14 PM

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Yes, but if you look under the Gesenius lexicon section, there should be a picture of scanned text - which says that it could be a circle or a sphere.

My whole point is that its reasonable for me to think this if scholarly sources agree on it.
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Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 96:10 Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

David describes the flat earth and foundations of the earth when God shoots fire and lightning down from the sky and comes down riding a Cherub.

2 Samuel 22:7 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears.
8Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.

Only God can move the Earth.

9There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
10He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.
11And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.
12And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.
13Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.
14The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

The sun rotates around the earth.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
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Post Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 06:35 AM

The Earth is a sphere that revolves around the sun; what do you think causes day and night as well as the seasons?

Please provide written proof that the Earth is flat or actual photos taken from a space shuttle or such instead of photo manipulations, paintings, etc.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 06:58 AM

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The Earth is a sphere that revolves around the sun; what do you think causes day and night as well as the seasons?

Please provide written proof that the Earth is flat or actual photos taken from a space shuttle or such instead of photo manipulations, paintings, etc.
Go back and read this thread from the beginning, godmocker.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 07:04 AM

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Go back and read this thread from the beginning, godmocker.
I have. A good few of the pictures are paintings, photo manipulations simply done in Photoshop (or another photo editing program) or diagrams.

I am not here to cause trouble. I am merely looking for a respectful debate through which I may learn more on how your beliefs differ from mine.

Also, I'd like some real evidence on different matters so I may ponder on the subject and see in which ways both parties' (Christians and Atheists/Agnostics) views are flawed.

If the simple acts of tolerance and curiosity are what will earn me a place in hell, then so be it.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 07:07 AM

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I have. A good few of the pictures are paintings, photo manipulations simply done in Photoshop (or another photo editing program) or diagrams.

I am not here to cause trouble. I am merely looking for a respectful debate through which I may learn more on how your beliefs differ from mine.
First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

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If the simple acts of tolerance and curiosity are what will earn me a place in hell, then so be it.
That, plus being a poop-eating queer.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 07:19 AM

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .
I see. I am not making a fool of myself; I merely stumbled upon your forum and searched out a few places to start up a small debate.

If you cannot start up a debate, it means that you are afraid of being disagreed with and that your arguments are not strong. I only wish for some proof or some debatable content.

Correct me if I am wrong but does the Bible not say that you are to love fellow human beings? Calling someone scum is definitely not "loving" a fellow human being.

If I am that much of a problem, please do not fear to terminate my "disgusting" little account.


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That, plus being a poop-eating queer.
How very mature, good sir; however, I am asexual. I do not wish to marry, have sex or have children with either gender.


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If you cannot start up a debate, it means that you are afraid of being disagreed with and that your arguments are not strong. I only wish for some proof or some debatable content.
No, it means that there is nothing to debate. God says it, we abide by it, and that's the end of the story. You can jump and shout and squirm and whine all you like, but it doesn't change God's Holy Word, nor His favorite Church (Landover Baptist!). Shout Glory!

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Correct me if I am wrong but does the Bible not say that you are to love fellow human beings? Calling someone scum is definitely not "loving" a fellow human being.
Ok, you're wrong.

The Holy Bible tells us to love our fellow True Christians™. It sure doesn't tell us to love queers, atheists, witches, joos, or other unsaved scumwads. If you were a Christian, you'd have known that.

Which begs the question: Why do you care what the Word of God has to say on a given subject when you reject Jesus anyway?


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Post Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-20-2011, 07:41 PM

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No, it means that there is nothing to debate. God says it, we abide by it, and that's the end of the story. You can jump and shout and squirm and whine all you like, but it doesn't change God's Holy Word, nor His favorite Church (Landover Baptist!). Shout Glory!
I'm not whining. I'm posting unbiasedly and rather politely.

If you cannot provide solid arguments, it means that you have nothing to support your opinions. Which, of course, would be fine if you simply acknowledged it.

There are always different opinions. Therefore, there is always something to debate. Shoving your fingers in your ears and pretending not to hear those different opinions doesn't change the fact.

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Ok, you're wrong.

The Holy Bible tells us to love our fellow True Christians™. It sure doesn't tell us to love queers, atheists, witches, joos, or other unsaved scumwads. If you were a Christian, you'd have known that.

Which begs the question: Why do you care what the Word of God has to say on a given subject when you reject Jesus anyway?
Ah, but doesn't it state that "...thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself..."? "Thy neighbour" simply sounds as if it means "your fellow human being". And "thy neighbour" will not always be Christian.

Bible verses from the King James Version (sent to me by a Christian friend):

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"The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." ( Mark 12:28-31)
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"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (NIV, John 13:34-35)
And the correct spelling is Jews, not joos.

I am so curious as to what the Word of God has to say on a given subject because I wish to further understand the beliefs of Christians (as well as other religions) and how they differ from other peoples'.


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Ah, but doesn't it state that "...thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself..."? "Thy neighbour" simply sounds as if it means "your fellow human being". And "thy neighbour" will not always be Christian.

Bible verses from the King James Version (sent to me by a Christian friend):
Neighbors does NOT refer to everyone.

Luke 10:29, 36-37 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-21-2011, 12:06 AM

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-22-2011, 08:10 PM

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Religion could also be called a theory if you think about it, as it has never been proven.

The Bible is your proof you say. But the scientists have books as well. So you're all basically on even ground, no?
perfect there is nothing that can science has tests and facts besides one book open your eyes to reality learn the wonders of what your mind can really do
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-22-2011, 10:25 PM

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learn the wonders of what your mind can really do
Are you trying to turn us into psychics? We don't approve of occultism here, boy:

Deuteronomy 18:10-11:
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.


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Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-24-2011, 10:29 PM

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perfect there is nothing that can science has tests and facts besides one book open your eyes to reality learn the wonders of what your mind can really do

Hmm...That sounds like something the devil would say..but if YOU open YOUR eyes, you'll see the REAL truth!!
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-25-2011, 06:46 AM

Your all retards. People have been in space and we have satelites that take pictures and the Earth is flat
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-25-2011, 09:33 AM

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Your all retards. People have been in space and we have satelites that take pictures and the Earth is flat
The fact only that earth is in space proves already that earth must be a globe, the most natural form a object can make in a vacuum with no gravity. (like a bubble if you want)


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-25-2011, 09:44 AM

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The fact only that earth is in space proves already that earth must be a globe, the most natural form a object can make in a vacuum with no gravity. (like a bubble if you want)
The Bible describes it as a tent curtain that goes over the earth.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-25-2011, 09:52 AM

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Your all retards.
Ha! You don't even know why! That makes it funnier.

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People have been in space
How do you know? Did you read it in a book or see a movie?

You do know that doesn't make it real, right? There's only one book you can trust, the 1611 King James Bible. I don't think you can trust any movies, certainly not space movies! What next, are you going to insist there are really Wookies out in space fighting Cylons for our freedom?

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It's so easy to dupe the masses with fancy special effects. When will the sheep learn that the government is of Lucifer, The Great Deceiver? How many times can they be suckered?

It defies logic, but here you are, yet another sad example of the ignorant horde.

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-25-2011, 10:01 AM

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The fact only that earth is in space proves already that earth must be a globe, the most natural form a object can make in a vacuum with no gravity. (like a bubble if you want)
Nonsense. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that God likes to create spherical objects more than flat objects. Additionally, gravity is a lie of the devil.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-28-2011, 04:32 PM

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The fact only that earth is in space proves already that earth must be a globe, the most natural form a object can make in a vacuum with no gravity. (like a bubble if you want)
You cannot prove an assumption with another assumption.

But even when I ignore that part, your statement here is very easy to disprove. Just take a disk and throw it into an open space. Unlike what you claim here, the disk will not spontaneously change into a globe.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 02-28-2011, 06:34 PM

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You cannot prove an assumption with another assumption.

But even when I ignore that part, your statement here is very easy to disprove. Just take a disk and throw it into an open space. Unlike what you claim here, the disk will not spontaneously change into a globe.
It's not an assuption, find a natural object that is a perfect flat disc, didn't find? Too bad, what about globes and cristal structures? Everywhere, don't believe me? go in a museum, go outside, listen once in a while to what we're saying.

And what's this crap about flat disc throwing in space? Nothing to do with what I was saying. I thought 'you' didn't BELIEVE in space, oh that's right, you're stupid, excuse me.


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