[Elmer G. White]

People devoted to their Faith tend to follow the commandments and instructions of that particular faith. That is true of True Christians™ (fortunately) but unfortunately also of false Christians and false cultists. Until a few days ago it was crystal clear that the dreaded ISIS cult was following the teachings of Mo Hammed in a meticulous manner and it was easy to classify them. This is no longer the case.

A couple of days ago this group of fighters actually burned a Muslim pilot alive after somewhat questionable ethical consideration including, e.g., disregard for secular law that us True Christians™ must follow (Hebrews 13:17). However, the main issue is that they committed an act that is condemned by Islam but acceptable in the Bible. The evidence is still scarce but this indicates strongly that ISIS/ISIL might in fact be a Christian organization fighting in the midst of Islamic nations.

My evidence:

1. The Bible endorses burning alive.
Leviticus 20:14 - And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.
John 15:6- If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
2 Thessalonians 1:8 - In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

At the moment, this is certainly not feasible due to the commandment of following secular law. Still, we have to remember that secular law is not Biblical, while the Bible usually is.



2. Islam apparently forbids burning alive.
The case is not as clear. We must remember here that in addition to the Quran there are the Hadith, teachings that Muslim false believers take as seriously as cat licks the sayings of their chief papist. And in the Hadith we find THIS.

“Allah Most High says, {Truly We have honored human beings} (Al-Isra’ 17: 70); burning a human being is a blatant disregard of the honor owed him or her as per the Divine will. In one of his hadiths, Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “No one is entitled to punish with fire except the Creator (God) of the fire”. (Abu Dawud, Sunan, No. 2673)

Thus, burning in Islam seems to be reserved for their false demon god Allah. Until this, the ISIS has been easy to classify. This changes everything. They are acting ACCORDING TO the BIBLE but CONTRARY TO ISLAM. This requires careful consideration as the responses of us True Christians™ to this apparent threat to Jesus may have to be re-evaluated. The seemingly vile abominable actions could be rational if the fighters considered their verdicts based on the Word of God. it is possible that they did all this for Biblical reasons. For instance, if the Jordanian pilot violated his mother-in-law he was basically punished as Jesus commands. In addition, at the moment, Muslim troops from Jordan are attacking these fighters. It is hard to conceive they would do so against other Muslims.

In my opinion, prayer will eventually reveal us the true nature of this organization but at the moment the possibility of a hidden colony of Christians cannot be ignored any longer!




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Faith_Machine]

Nope, those sand people haven't praised Jesus even one time. It would please me greatly if they could be converted to Christianity, since they already have such commendably Christian values (taking women as spoils of war, etc.), but let's not kid ourselves: As long as the camels, sheep, and captured female children are readily available for sex, convincing the average sand person to follow a God who requires His children to abstain from fornication is going to be nearly impossible.

[John Creeser]

Compelling evidence, Brother. However, could they be compared to the hellbound catholics....you know, making it as they go (i.e. Popes, purgatory, nuns, graven images of Mary OK etc etc).

Keep an eye on these guys. I pray that they do trade in their false religion for the one true faith!! I mean, as you mentioned above, they have some Christian ideologies in practice already! Maybe......just maybe.

[Bjorn Jensen]

This also brings us to the question, could the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant actually be considered as a country of its own, such as Putin's True Christian™ Donetsk People's Republic? If so, that would at least nullify Hebrews 13:17 as this obviously is the law of the land there.

Also worth noticing is that one of the major targets of ISIL is the Yazidis, a heathen cult that literally worships Satan which is why Obama defends them

[Elmer G. White]

Have been praying for hours. Got quite a few nice answers regarding my upset stomach and the slight rash in my... lowest abdomen. Still no definite data on ISIL, though... I kind of understand Jesus. This is a tough case, the differences between Christian love and random violence can be so slight. It is the question of doing something under the protecting touch of Jesus or, alternatively, for reasons of demonic lust. Do they have a pure heart? Have they accepted Jesus? That's the key, not the actions.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Jesus will emerge victorious from all this and show us the way into Eternal Life. I won't criticize Him if He's recruited some of these fighters as His personal body guards in Heaven.




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Damned Angelique]

If burning another human being alive is condemned in the Quran except for God/Allah, then these militant extremests could simply be stating that they are just as powerful as God/Allah, which would be blasphemous in pretty much most faiths.

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Damned Angelique

If burning another human being alive is condemned in the Quran except for God/Allah, then these militant extremests could simply be stating that they are just as powerful as God/Allah, which would be blasphemous in pretty much most faiths.

A valiant effort to understand how the spiritual world functions but a bit too simplistic, I am afraid.

The market for diverse faiths is larger than ever before. A person can see an abominable thing, such as a man violating his mother-in-law and, instead of going into action at once, he starts to ponder how his possible action affects his immortal soul. The man can see that his former faith would actually endorse this (wiccans), fail to pay attention (false Christian) or prevent him from acting in an appropriate manner (Islam). He would then see that there is indeed a religion and Faith so marvellous that it is righteous and logical to the tiniest detail. True Christianity™. Would this not be enough to convert even a heathen? Of course not, but the slight tentative touch of Jesus on top of this would.

You see, God chooses us!

Deuteronomy 7:7
The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

But that is not enough, either. We also choose God! It is reciprocal. Glory! Jesus is truly magnificent.

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Still this comment of yours was helpful. I think that we are seeing exectly this process here in action. Jesus has probed these soldiers. He sees some potential. They can feel His touch but perhaps they do not understand it yet. If they accept Him and convert the cost-benefit outcome of this sorry affair becomes extremely positive. The worse the preceding sin, the more Jesus will cherish the new True Christian™ in Heaven. Praise Jesus.



Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Faith_Machine]

Originally Posted by Damned Angelique

If burning another human being alive is condemned in the Quran except for God/Allah, then these militant extremests could simply be stating that they are just as powerful as God/Allah, which would be blasphemous in pretty much most faiths.

I think the issue here is that those Muslims just selectively pick and choose which parts of their scripture they're going to adhere to. I can't imagine belonging to a faith where you just follow the parts you like.

[feeblemind]

Said it before and I'll say it here.....

Lose religion and the world will be a better place. Nobody forcing their mythical god viewpoints on each other and everyone would get along a lot better.
Religion is the cause of so much world damage and destruction...

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by freemind

Said it before and I'll say it here.....

Lose religion and the world will be a better place. Nobody forcing their mythical god viewpoints on each other and everyone would get along a lot better.
Religion is the cause of so much world damage and destruction...

Jesus Christ is not about this world. He is the manifestation of the Trinity on Earth but Christianity is about preparation to Eternity. God does not want our life to be comfortable or nice. He wants it to be righteous. He wants us to submit for the few decades here in order to be ready for the exquisite bliss in Heaven. It is true that all this causes collateral damage from the human viewpoint. There is disease and suffering but all that is caused by the Fall of the first woman who took the fruit offered by the serpent although God tried to prevent it. Sin.

Suffering is real but it is irrelevant. Eternity counts. We know the world does not like the Truth™.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 17:14
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

We don't "like" God. We accept His incredible powers. We fear and obey. For that, we can live forever in Heaven. This world will soon pass away and us True Christians™ will be taken into the clouds to be with Jesus. Our only task here is to spread the Good Word and save as many souls as possible before Rapture occurs. The surplus deaths are insignificant as most of them would go to Hell anyway.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by freemind

Lose religion and the world will be a better place.

How did that work out in the Soviet Union and Maoist China?