[Dr Laurence Niles]

So anal rape causes euphoria? You know what else causes euphoria?

That's right: heroine addiction. So being anally raped by multiple anonymous arse bandits is the same as mainlining heroine with a dirty needle

Two things to be avoided, I think.

You do know that by being a queer God wants you dead and in Hell, don't you?

Yours in Christ.

[Jpagan]

Originally Posted by Laurence Niles

So being anally raped by multiple anonymous arse bandits is the same as mainlining heroine with a dirty needle


You do know that by being a queer God wants you dead and in Hell, don't you?

For it to be rape, doesn't it have to be against the will of one of the participants? I willingly opened myself up to my lover.

By being queer, isn't it more like God is sad that his boy went astray and sad that he now has to cast him into the lake of fire, as opposed to hatred and delighting in casting him to Satan?

But thats the main question I have here. If God doesn't want us to be gay, why did he give guys a pleasure point in the prostate? Why tempt us so?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

By being queer, isn't it more like God is sad that his boy went astray and sad that he now has to cast him into the lake of fire, as opposed to hatred and delighting in casting him to Satan?

I will tackle your two glaring misunderstandings in reverse order.

Misunderstanding #2: "casting him to Satan".

You have clearly watched Little Nicky, or read Dante or Milton, instead of the Bible.

Hell is God's Lake of Fire. As Revelation 20-21 tells us, God will (future tense) cast Satan into the Lake of Fire, where he will be burned alive for all time. But that hasn't happened yet; it occurs at Judgment. The Bible in no way indicates that Satan is presently in Hell. Rather, he is roaming free in the world, creating false religions like Wicca.

Misunderstanding #1: "Sad that He now has to . . ."

God doesn't have to do anything God doesn't want to.

Also in Revelation 20-21, we learn that God will resurrect all the world's people from unknowing death for Judgment. He will cast sinners and unbelievers into His Lake of Fire to be burned alive for all eternity, along with Satan.

Now, I'm going to apply just a tiny bit of that logic you atheists are so fond of:

If God "loved" sinners, and was "sad" to toss them into His Lake of Fire, why exactly would He not simply leave them dead and unknowing? Why resurrect and torture them for all eternity? Does that make sense?

Only if you have a mighty sick concept of "love"!

No, God resurrects sinners so He may torture them for all eternity because they have disobeyed Him through sin or disbelief. He HATES them.

[Jpagan]

Wow, that does clear things up quite a bit. Thank you for your post! However that just leave the one portion of my question I'm sill confused about.

Why would God tempt man so much by creating him with the equipment to experience so much pleasure from sodomy?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Why would God tempt man so much by creating him with the equipment to experience so much pleasure from sodomy?

You find sodomy pleasurable? I think it would be torture.

Only a demented pervert would find anal sex to be enjoyable.

[Jpagan]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

You find sodomy pleasurable? I think it would be torture.

Only a demented pervert would find anal sex to be enjoyable.

Yes I find it to be very pleasurable. I also understand how many men could consider it torture. However I'm advocating that every guy needs to try it either. I found it to have just a a little discomfort the first time. Its analogous to the discomfort when proper women give themselves to their christian husband for the first time to procreate.

[Jpagan]

Whoa whoa whoa! I meant I am NOT, NOT advocating that every guy has to go out and try it. Sorry about the mis print!

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Whoa whoa whoa! I meant I am NOT, NOT advocating that every guy has to go out and try it. Sorry about the mis print!

So you "correct" it with a double negative?

[Jpagan]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

So you "correct" it with a double negative?

The comma in the sentence makes it a repeat for emphasis. No comma would indicate a double negative that would mean that I really do advocate it. But I simply mis-typed and meant to correct my error.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Wow, that does clear things up quite a bit. Thank you for your post! However that just leave the one portion of my question I'm sill confused about.

Why would God tempt man so much by creating him with the equipment to experience so much pleasure from sodomy?

Are there other things you find pleasurable that are also sinful?

I imagine there are.

If we had no possibility of temptation, then sin would not exist as we would have no possibility of disobeying God. Where then would be free will, and the ability to choose obedience or unending torment?

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Yes I find it to be very pleasurable. I also understand how many men could consider it torture. However I'm advocating that every guy needs to try it either. I found it to have just a a little discomfort the first time. Its analogous to the discomfort when proper women give themselves to their christian husband for the first time to procreate.

Do you pick your nose, pop you zits and relish the pew of your own flatulence?

This is a Christian forum; go irrigate yourself on boxturtle!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

You find sodomy pleasurable? I think it would be torture.

Only a demented pervert would find anal sex to be enjoyable.

I think you will find that normal people find sodomy excruciatingly painful. Watch 'Deliverance': does that look like he is enjoying it? Not at all. Manly men shirk at that thought of a well lubed pickle pipe penertrating their bottoms

The reason the prostate gland works the way it does is a side affect of the polysynaptic activation arc of ejaculation and nothing to do with pleasure. Some sickos get off on pain (M and S fetishists) and this is exactly the same with predatory sex pest homers. They are no different from the bondage junkie, the auto erotic asphyxia enthusiasts or the pedophile.

YIC

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Yes I find it to be very pleasurable. I also understand how many men could consider it torture. However I'm advocating that every guy needs to try it either. I found it to have just a a little discomfort the first time. Its analogous to the discomfort when proper women give themselves to their christian husband for the first time to procreate.

I've every reason to believe that some people find mass murder pleasurable... or raping babies.

This is the problem with the atheist mind. Following their line of reasoning is horrible.

[Jpagan]

You've all made some excellent points. I would like to respond to a few if I may.

1 in regards to deliverance, wasn't that a case of rape? Which is painful due to one participant being unwilling? I'm now willing to admit it's a sin, but it's not painful if both participants are willing.

2 As for Do you pick your nose, pop you zits and relish the pew of your own flatulence? I've only found it necessary to pick my nose, and those times I had been working out in the fields with my animals and had hey fever. Unless: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.means that expulsing these constitutes sin. (Is the pagan getting it?)

3 As for the murdering babies and sodomy correlation, I would like to see the train of thought, I don't quite get it. Although I guess one could say they could be pleasurable activities. I don't like murdering babies. But wouldn't that be a pleasure of the mind, while sodomy is a pleasure/sin of the flesh?

Thanks for your explanations.

[Redeemed Papist]

So basically everything you personally find pleasurable is morally OK? It's fine for us to have laws that prohibit murdering babies because you're not all that bothered about murdering babies but we'd better leave the sodomy alone.

Do you actually believe the world was created for you as your own personal playground?

[Jpagan]

Thats not quite what I meant. The killing of babies is bad based not only on the Bible, but also on the harm done to an unwilling party. What I'm asking is if two consenting adults partake in sodomy in private, who are they hurting or how are they hurting anyone other than themselves?

[Noah Sole]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

Thats not quite what I meant. The killing of babies is bad based not only on the Bible, but also on the harm done to an unwilling party. What I'm asking is if two consenting adults partake in sodomy in private, who are they hurting or how are they hurting anyone other than themselves?

They are hurting our Lord! His book, the Bible, forbids those sinful acts and tells us that those participating in those acts must be stoned.

All the best

[Jpagan]

Originally Posted by Noah Sole

They are hurting our Lord! His book, the Bible, forbids those sinful acts and tells us that those participating in those acts must be stoned.

All the best

But God is omnipotent, omnipresent, all powerful. If tanks and bombs and hatred can't so much as scratch him, how can a tender act between two people? I guess thats my hang up with this issue.

[Noah Sole]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

But God is omnipotent, omnipresent, all powerful. If tanks and bombs and hatred can't so much as scratch him, how can a tender act between two people? I guess thats my hang up with this issue.

We're not here to debate what you think is right or wrong or pleasurable. The Bible is God's word and forbids it several times. If you disagree with God take it up with him not us.

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

And how can you call ramming your member into another man's mud hole a 'tender act'. You people are gross!!!

All the best

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by Jpagan

But God is omnipotent, omnipresent, all powerful. If tanks and bombs and hatred can't so much as scratch him, how can a tender act between two people? I guess thats my hang up with this issue.

You think the excoriation of the excrement emitting eyelet of a white, blue eyed teen aged altar boy is "tender"? His poo-poo burns like a taco dipped in Dave's Insanity.