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Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 06:50 PM
God-mockers often ask that question in a desperate attempt to disprove the existence of God. Sadly, fluffy-bunny liberal Christians either do not answer the question or provide an "answer" that shows their ignorance of Scripture. We True Christians™, however, can provide a Biblically correct answer.
First, the question itself begs the question. Apart from God's grace, there are no good people:
Romans 3:10-12: As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
With God's grace, of course, comes God's sovereignty. God, being God, may do what He likes in order to glorify Himself:
Job 1:8-12: And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath [is] in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
Daniel 4:35: And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Moreover, bad things that happen to the truly saved are evidence of the Lord's love for them. This may seem counterintuitive to those who don't know the following Scripture passage:
Hebrews 12:6-11: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected [us], and we gave [them] reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened [us] after their own pleasure; but he for [our] profit, that [we] might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Now let us consider some of the answers proposed by hippy-dippy liberal Christians in the light of the Bible. Some say that just as darkness is simply the absence of light, evil is simply the absence of good. It takes only one Scripture verse to refute both of those assertions:
Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
Why would God have to create two things that are merely the absence of something else?
Others say that things just happen and that God for some reason does nothing to stop them. That argument, however, denies the omnipotence of the Almighty:
Prov. 16:33: The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof [is] of the LORD.
Appeals to free will have the same deficiency:
Romans 9:17: For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
In summation, whenever bad things happen to good people, it is God's doing, and they should be grateful to Him for such things.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 08:10 PM
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In summation, whenever bad things happen to good people, it is God's doing, and they should be grateful to Him for such things.
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God statement Pastor. If only more people looked beyond their selfish depravity and could see that it is God's love for them that gives their child cancer or cripples them in a freak bicycling accident. These tribulations that God torments or destroys His faithful are just Him showing His faith in us like He had with Job. Job never recanted being a proto-TRUE Christian because his face was being eaten off by a freak disease so neither should you.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 09:12 PM
Excellent and stirring sermon, Pastor.
While I was aware of these verses individually, it is moving to see them together like this. The message is clear.
I will ask my husband for permission to address our small church's Bible study group this evening on the contents of this sermon. You have my thanks.
Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 09:22 PM
Godly sermon, Pastor! Take that atheists and fluffy bunny Christians.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 10:56 PM
Wonderful sermon Pastor.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
03-31-2010, 11:02 PM
Amen!
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To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-01-2010, 06:47 AM
Shout Glory!!
When really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you. And you should shout "THANK YOU JESUS!" when He smites you!
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Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:
14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:
14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:
14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:
14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-02-2010, 09:57 AM
An inspiring sermon, dear Pastor. Thank you very much for it. I'll remember that next time when the tea lady adds three cubes of sugar to my coffee, even though I clearly have stated I want only two. Moments like that always have been testing for my Faith.
Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
Praised be Your Glorious Name™.
Amen.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-02-2010, 12:29 PM
I also note that folks who may appear 'good' to us may, in fact, not be. It is possible that they are descended from some wicked enemy of God, and may have to pay for their ancestors' transgression(s).
Exodus 34:6-7, KJV
6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are un Godly among them of all their un Godly deeds which they have un Godly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which un Godly sinners have spoken against him.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-02-2010, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner
I also note that folks who may appear 'good' to us may, in fact, not be. It is possible that they are descended from some wicked enemy of God, and may have to pay for their ancestors' transgression(s).
Exodus 34:6-7, KJV
6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
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Good point Brother. I have a question regarding this.
My family was saved from their pagan Viking ways in 1725 (according to family records) and baptized into the Catholic church in exchange for giving up our lands. I'm not sure when Sweden or my family went from Catholic to Lutheran as there is no record of that, but my father became a fluffy bunny Baptist in the late 1970's and then I turned to the Lord after my marriage in 2000. So am I only first generation? are my sons cursed because of my upbringing?
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-09-2010, 01:41 AM
Your god is dead and it is by the hands of mankind that he has been slain.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-09-2010, 01:59 AM
God allows bad things to happen to good people to test their faith and show them that they are never to strong to not need God. Wake up call. God tested Lot.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-09-2010, 02:42 AM
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God allows bad things to happen to good people to test their faith and show them that they are never to strong to not need God. Wake up call. God tested Lot.
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By having him have sex with his two daughters?
You're a sick girl.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? -
04-09-2010, 04:03 AM
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Your god is dead and it is by the hands of mankind that he has been slain.
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If God is dead why does the sun still rise every morning? Why do seeds burst forth from the soil as seedlings in the spring? Why do the clouds gather and the rains fall? Why do the seas rise and then fall again? How can an infant smile? How can a tiny son's face be nothing but love and absolute trust? How can any of this be if God is slain?
Idiot.
Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
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