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Default Re: Why do you believe Jesus supports - 08-19-2010, 01:07 PM

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Thats interesting that you should say that. It seems to me that the Catholics are interpreting the bible literaly for once. While the baptists think its a metaphor... Interesting reversal of attitiudes...

Is it because the Baptists find canabalism uncomfortable? And if a part of the bible is uncomfortable, why not change its interpretation and make it more acceptable...

That does sound familiar dosnt it?
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Default Re: Why do you believe Jesus supports - 08-19-2010, 03:48 PM

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Thats interesting that you should say that. It seems to me that the Catholics are interpreting the bible literaly for once. While the baptists think its a metaphor... Interesting reversal of attitiudes...

Is it because the Baptists find canabalism uncomfortable? And if a part of the bible is uncomfortable, why not change its interpretation and make it more acceptable...

That does sound familiar dosnt it?
The Catholics are clearly wrong in their false belief. I've already shown you that Jesus himself said that He wasn't talking about physical flesh and blood. Being uncomfortable has nothing to do with the fact that Catholics are foolishly taking a clear passage of scripture and distorting it for their sick beliefs.


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Default Re: Why do you believe Jesus supports violence - 08-19-2010, 06:08 PM

You are referring to John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


But this clearly points out the problem with the bible. According to catholic intrpretation your interpretation is wrong...

It comes down to a protestant vs catholic matter of opinion.

You'd think god would point out who was right and who was wrong with a couple of well placed lightning bolts!

...Oh thats right, there is no god


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You'd think god would point out who was right and who was wrong with a couple of well placed lightning bolts!

...Oh thats right, there is no god
No, that wouldn't happen. God wants free will so we will chose salvation or damnation willingly. That's why He allows Satan to spread false scripture.



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No, that wouldn't happen. God wants free will so we will chose salvation or damnation willingly. That's why He allows Satan to spread false scripture.

Sorry but that is not free will in my books. Free will, as it relates to god, is being allowed to make INFORMED desisions based on what a person understands to be true.

What you have just described is god tricking people through satan. That is not free will, that is manipulation through deceit...


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Sorry but that is not free will in my books. Free will, as it relates to god, is being allowed to make INFORMED desisions based on what a person understands to be true.

What you have just described is god tricking people through satan. That is not free will, that is manipulation through deceit...
Men are ignorant and selfish. There is no way they can make an informed decision about anything. God wants us to listen to our hearts, not our minds, and by our own freewill turn our lives over to Him so He makes the correct decision for us.



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Men are ignorant and selfish. There is no way they can make an informed decision about anything. God wants us to listen to our hearts, not our minds, and by our own freewill turn our lives over to Him so He makes the correct decision for us.


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wow, that makes my brain hurt...
That was pretty orthodox Christian doctrine there friend. I am sorry if you find it to complex or offensive.

Look at it this way; liberals get obsessed with the facts and past experience. But life is more about facts, it is about truth ideas and worthy goals. Many times doing the correct thing is to ignore past any past experience or contradictory facts, just not think about it and do what you know is right.

That is what listing to your heart means friend.



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That was pretty orthodox Christian doctrine there friend. I am sorry if you find it to complex or offensive.

Look at it this way; liberals get obsessed with the facts and past experience. But life is more about facts, it is about truth ideas and worthy goals. Many times doing the correct thing is to ignore past any past experience or contradictory facts, just not think about it and do what you know is right.

That is what listing to your heart means friend.
I suppose thats why I do not see myself accepting god any time soon. I just cant give up on thinking for myself


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Ok friend,
how do think you will do the correct thing? Moral choices are not black and white. Have you read this thread? Many times the true moral choice is not the obvious one.



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I suppose thats why I do not see myself accepting god any time soon. I just cant give up on thinking for myself
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