[Warrior of God]

Originally Posted by Parabola

I have to say, I am impressed with your arguments...

But then again, I think you're just a bunch of wussies. 'Cause if you weren't, you'd be walking around with an AK-47 every day, killing atheists, gays etc.

So... Enough with words, people! If you really want your God to love you, get the killing started!!!!!!

Now there you go with generalisations...
Why is it when a know-nothing wants to make a posturing reference to an assault or battle rifle they always, always , reference that cheap piece of soviet bloc garbage.
Only benefit to an AK 47 son, is they were cheap as hell , and easily repaired or replaced ...

Only reason I ever used one was if we relied on enemy stocks for replenishing ammo..
Even then a little discernment was inorder
If you really want to go for an AK try to pick up an AK-107, or AK-108
the balanced automatic gas driven 'engine' system has 2 opposite moving gas pistons instead of one...main gas piston drives bolt carrier (via gas rod), secondary piston drives compensating mass (via its own rod)
in the direction, opposite to the bolt carrier. This greatly reduces muzzle jump , and increases accuracy in full-auto mode.
The 47 shoots like shit...Even a '74 would be a better grab.
Many of the AK clones out perform the original .
The Galil , though much maligned , and the Valmet / Sako Rk.95 were far better pieces of kit than the '47..

Personally, deny me my L96 , and I would opt for the FN-FAL, now that weapon was a work of art.. OK,, early models were susceptible to sand and crap. But later runs...mmmmmm'....
Heavier to lug about than the M16 ,but those rounds didn't know when to quit. Cut my teeth on one , still love them.
Anything hit stays hit..And the FN laughed at the average wall.
There was a really nice clone version produced in the USA the DSA-58OSW , now that was sweet...

But back to your comment, you should avoid sweeping generalisations when you don't know the history of the people you are talking to..
I would lay good money that I was dealing cathoholics and moooselems before you were born, and still doing so while you were struggling into long pants..

and...FYI... anyone who recommends the AK47 knows damn all about combat weapons.
The thing is a beggars weapon boy.
Resilient, yes , but not first league.

BTW...Your name raised a smile.

Try to stay out of God's hairs

[Parabola]

Thank you for the gun info...

[AliceS]

Originally Posted by Brother Guy

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me".

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.
"which would not that I should reign over them"=which will not respect the commandments.

[Andreas Ivanschitz]

Hi.


What i would like to point out is that if you think you should kill people, then the law is just an excuse. You will have plenty of opportunities to kill the atheists, gays etc. you find in prison!

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Originally Posted by AliceS

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.
"which would not that I should reign over them"=which will not respect the commandments.

Have you even read this thread?

[AliceS]

Originally Posted by Brother Guy

Have you even read this thread?

Yes... have you?

[karaiskakis]

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone??? Are you not supposed to live and behave like he did???

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Originally Posted by AliceS

Yes... have you?

You obviously haven't read this thread. Read it from the beginning. Understand the errors in subsequent transations of the Bible. Understand the significance of the difference in word meanings. Understand the distinction between words such as 'kill'and 'murder'.
Re-read the thread from the start.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by karaiskakis

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone??? Are you not supposed to live and behave like he did???

And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.-- Jeremiah 25:33

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.--Luke 19:27

I [Jesus] will kill her children with death.-- Revelations 2:23

Have you ever actually read the Bible you ridiculous turk lover?

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Fred Smith

God punishes, not kills. He gave them life and so he takes it back. Its not murder, he wants the life he gave them back.

Are you a Jew lawyer? "Yes, they're dead, and my client caused them to die, but he didn't kill them, so it's fine." You won't be able to Jew God on Judgement Day, you know.

Originally Posted by AliceS

It says Thou shalt not kill, therefore anyone who kills is Jesus' enemy, and if you praise killing, you are praising his enemies and are in fact Jesus' enemy.

Jesus kills people. How could He be His own enemy? Being His own Father is one thing, but being His own enemy would just be crazy and illogical.

Originally Posted by karaiskakis

Ok now i am sure. You guys are crazy...

You can kill in the name of Jesus???? Are you out of your mind.
You say you believe in Jesus. Has he ever killed anyone???

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

[Fred Smith]

This thread is messed up. I think its funny that you claim to be christians and are basically committing blashphemy saying there is a problem with the Bible. There is no problem with the Bible. So do not say there is. The word of God is infallible. There is no translation problem. It says thou shalt not kill. SO DO NOT KILL! It could not be clearer.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Fred Smith

This thread is messed up. I think its funny that you claim to be christians and are basically committing blashphemy saying there is a problem with the Bible. There is no problem with the Bible. So do not say there is. The word of God is infallible. There is no translation problem. It says thou shalt not kill. SO DO NOT KILL! It could not be clearer.

You believe in The Holy Trinity?
God The Father, God The Son and The Holy Spirit?
You accept that they are One Indivisible?
The Jesus is God.
And Jesus said:

M't:19:16: And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
M't:19:17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
M't:19:18: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
M't:19:19: Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

You see the Old Testament? You read that God caused the flood and all men were killed? That is the same God as Jesus; they are the same.

So what is God doing saying these Words recorded in Matthew? He is clarifying some of the Commandments.

God (do not forget that He is also Jesus and The Holy Spirit) says that homers should be stoned to death. Likewise witches and various other abominations.

God, as Jesus, recognizes the difference between killing and murder. You will note that at His crucifixion, He never said, "Thou shalt not kill." which would have been an excellent time to issue the reminder, because, He accepted that crucifixion was not murder. (As it happens, He is a unique case, but I'm sure you take the point.)