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Default Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 04-29-2012, 03:53 AM

For some time, I've worried we are not obtaining as many death bed conversions as we should.

Those conversions are out there. It's just a matter of reaching people when they are semi concious and drugged but are not yet dead.

There are a couple of ideas I've been working. One is to have a crack team available 24/7. We would speed volunteers to area hospitals whenever the opportunity for a death bed victory presented itself.

I've also been asking around about to see if technology could help us. My thinking is that we could have a taped message that was triggered by a STAT alarm. The recording could ask the patient several times, "Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?"

We can assume many friends would be made for Landover Baptist Church and Freehold. Christian relatives would be greatful.

My thinking is we are on the cusp of a breakthrough in the number of these death bed conversions. Thank you for your support.

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 04-29-2012, 03:55 AM

This shouldn't be very difficult at all. As an ex-treehugger, I am well aware that people on morphine will believe anything!


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 04-30-2012, 05:48 AM

When somebody is drugged up and their brain is dying, they are very susceptible to the Good News of JESUS CHRIST.

I really like the tape recording idea, and if it is implemented into our hospital system, I believe that we will be able to meet many a surprised atheist in Heaven who will remark, "I said what on my death bed?" right before throwing their arms around us, and thanking us for making them into believers in their final moments on Earth.



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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 04-30-2012, 03:51 PM

I think we also shouldn't over look post mortum conversions too. Clearly if the deceased should have converted to Christianity and repented of their sins, then they did. Christoper Hitchens is a good example. Everyone know that when Hitchens said "get out of piffleing face about Jesus, just give me more booze" he really meant "I accept my Lord Jesus as my Savior"

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I think we also shouldn't over look post mortum conversions too. Clearly if the deceased should have converted to Christianity and repented of their sins, then they did. Christoper Hitchens is a good example. Everyone know that when Hitchens said "get out of piffleing face about Jesus, just give me more booze" he really meant "I accept my Lord Jesus as my Savior"

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AMEN. After all, how can one sin or reject Christ's teachings, when one's brain is passively being eaten by worms?
That's right, has Hitchen's risen from his grave and his alcohol persevered corpse denied him repenting at the last second?

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 05-26-2012, 04:43 PM

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For some time, I've worried we are not obtaining as many death bed conversions as we should.

Those conversions are out there. It's just a matter of reaching people when they are semi concious and drugged but are not yet dead.

There are a couple of ideas I've been working. One is to have a crack team available 24/7. We would speed volunteers to area hospitals whenever the opportunity for a death bed victory presented itself.

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We can assume many friends would be made for Landover Baptist Church and Freehold. Christian relatives would be greatful.

My thinking is we are on the cusp of a breakthrough in the number of these death bed conversions. Thank you for your support.

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Sounds like a really good idea.

Amen
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 05-27-2012, 02:23 AM

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Sounds like a really good idea.

Amen
Thank you, Thomas. Thanks, also, to the others who posted additional great ideas, esepcially the one about post death conversions.

I got to wondering where the Mormon records are kept. If we could find records of all those people they stole from our Jesus in heaven after they died, we could take them back again.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 05-27-2012, 07:40 AM

What about visiting the termilly ill (we may have to pretend to be relatives) and turning off the morphine drip? When the pain increases and is intolerable we could ask 'Could you put up with agony for eternity? This suffering is nothing compared to the what awaits you if you reject the love of Jesus. ' A rag may be useful to muffle the screams.

Then we could say 'Would you like to experience the feeling of content and joy that we feel with Jesus in our heart? ' Then give them a big surge of the morphine.

Then with the controller in your hand say 'So do you accept Jesus as your savior? '


Some will mistakenly see this as cruel however it is kindness. It they can't handle a few minutes of extreme agony what are they going to be like in hell?

If they still reject Jesus turn off the drip and walk away, shake the dust from your feet. You have done all you can. Move on to the children's ward,

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 05-27-2012, 10:15 PM

I recommend converting the comatose.From time to time you'll even get to save a soul because of miss diagnosed Locked-in Syndrome.Being completely paralyzed I'm sure if you come to them every single day when every one else has abandoned them they will,while not actually being able to convert verbally,accept God into their heart.


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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 05-30-2012, 03:17 PM

Glory! This will save a lot of souls. Can't we have the team(s) waiting at the first aid entrances of hospitals? Just block them from entering until they are Saved.


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I'm not too sure of this. The thing is, the more True Christians die, the fewer there are of us to spread the Lord's Word.

I would encourage de-conversion, so that atheists die: fewer of them + atheists are shown to have a higher death rate.

This way, we get live, fit Christians who continue to tithe, instead of those who are slowly dropping off this mortal coil and whose care is a drain on Church finances and Pastors' time.

The downside is a lack of legacies. However, I do believe that bequests can be sold to them as a "covering all eventualities" gift.

As an aside, I often feel that dying Christians are not really True Christians: if they were devout, surely they could cure themselves by prayer.





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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-13-2014, 02:00 AM

An idea as glorious as this must be inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm wondering if we should limit ourselves to just hospitals though. There are lots of dying people elsewhere. For example, people in a burning buildings, or people on the side of the road who were in a serious accident, or people who are under a terrorist attack. Wealthy Christian Republicans will be sent actual fireman, ambulances, and police of course since they're already saved. Although all others (eg. poor people) should be sent emergency preachers instead. The preachers could yell "You think those flames are bad? Just imagine those flames forever!" or "You think the pain you're in after a car accident hurts? That's nothing compared to Hell!" while standing safely outside the range of the fire. It wouldn't be good if the preacher got hurt, then he couldn't save anymore souls!

This will save our economy valuable resources which can be used in other areas (eg. the military) which will save more American lives later on down the road, but more importantly it will save souls. Why do emergency response teams spend thousands of dollars trying to save one finite life that will probably be dead in a few decades anyway when they can do something valuable like saving their eternal soul?

Although I'm a bit concerned about their response to terrorists and criminals. We wouldn't want the preachers to be killed in action, and we wouldn't want to let the terrorists get away either. I'm thinking there could be specially trained "SWAT Preachers" designed to score conversions in the midst of terrorists attacks, while ensuring they're protected against the fire themselves using ballistic armor, assault rifles, gas masks, etc.
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 01-13-2014, 08:12 PM

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Although I'm a bit concerned about their response to terrorists and criminals. We wouldn't want the preachers to be killed in action, and we wouldn't want to let the terrorists get away either. I'm thinking there could be specially trained "SWAT Preachers" designed to score conversions in the midst of terrorists attacks, while ensuring they're protected against the fire themselves using ballistic armor, assault rifles, gas masks, etc.
Specially trained in weapons to finish of the heathens, any sign that they are criminals or arabs (a pantone can be used by less experienced Pastors) and BANG, straight to hell.

For we want to save the few that deserve, not the many that are not.

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 07-22-2023, 12:55 PM

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There are a couple of ideas I've been working.
I have two questions. Mormons pray for people (everyone they can determine to have existed) in their genealogies. Do they also pray for people who are still alive? Satanic prayer in cases where Christ had not yet been accepted would not encounter the repulsive field of The Gospel.
Would there need to be additional prayers uttered in those cases?

My second question was only covered briefly in OP. There is considerable use of pain medication in this environment, some of which produces hallucinations. Quite apart from any sense of wellbeing induced. Should this be discontinued before The Good News is presented? God has explained about the degree of suffering awaiting the unredeemed—it is perpetual and involves tooth gnashing, wailing, smoke, torment, etc.—so perhaps He is introducing the theme for a more understandable Salvation message?
Does the medication thwart God's strategy in this respect?

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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 07-22-2023, 02:20 PM

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There is considerable use of pain medication in this environment, some of which produces hallucinations. Quite apart from any sense of wellbeing induced. Should this be discontinued before The Good News is presented? God has explained about the degree of suffering awaiting the unredeemed—it is perpetual and involves tooth gnashing, wailing, smoke, torment, etc.—so perhaps He is introducing the theme for a more understandable Salvation message?
I'm a results oriented person, Sister Mitza. If a patient says yes to Jesus, or does not react to anything indicating a yes, it is job well done.


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I see. It would be crucial how one phrased Christ's invitation, then. Have there been many volunteers so far?
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Default Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 07-22-2023, 05:02 PM

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I see. It would be crucial how one phrased Christ's invitation, then. Have there been many volunteers so far?
We have been fully staffed for several years. So many souls saved for heaven I have lost count. (And many angry atheist relatives who did not want us there.)

I don't have to tell you one of most famous saves was Christopher Hitchens. He was not one of our saves but was saved by an underground warrior like us in his last hours when the family was not present.


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Jesus Re: Freehold Initiative To Increase Death Bed Conversions - 07-24-2023, 01:03 AM

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We have been fully staffed for several years. So many souls saved for heaven I have lost count. (And many angry atheist relatives who did not want us there.)
Several years ago while driving to the taxidermist I came across a stirring scene on the side of the highway, an older man having a heart attack while his wife and adult children looked on in horror. The paramedics had not yet arrived and the son was attempting CPR. I knew I was right where God wanted me. I sprang into action, disabling the younger man with a hardcover Bible to the head. Then I moved in, gathered the dying man in my arms and ministered to him about Jesus, resisting all attempts of his wife and daughter to pull me away. He was trying to reach out to them (and away from God) so I blocked them from view with my body and urged him to accept Christ as his savior. His soul left his body right then and there, and I'm confident he entered the gates of Heaven right as the ambulance was pulling up.


I shudder to think what would have happened if I hadn't been there. To God goes the glory.


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