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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:07 PM

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So god created us, but who created god? how did he appear?
Hold on there, son. Just calm down. Take some deep breaths, have your wife go and make you your favorite pie (mine's pecan, FYI ). Once you have had a slice and downed it with a nice glass milk, why don't you sit down for a while with the KJV 1611 and read it cover to cover. Once you've finished, get a good night's rest, and then come back and talk to us.


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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:09 PM

I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:09 PM

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So god created us, but who created god? how did he appear?
First work on your this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...ght=capitalize

When you grasp that concept, we can move on to more difficult to understand themes.


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5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:11 PM

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I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.
Ok boy, now you're starting to cross the line. A suspect Pastor Ezekiel is warming up the ban-o-matic.


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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:15 PM

If this is the way you're trying to save somebody, by silencing him, I can't find any resemblance of what I perceive as humanity here. I was just looking for rational answers, which it seems that are hard to get around here.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:18 PM

We are not trying to Save® anyone, this is merely a forum for worship
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:20 PM

How about "Guaranteeing salvation since 1620" then?
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:36 PM

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Couldn't you just try and answer my question.
Your argument is a well-known atheist one. It goes like this: "If nothing can come out of nothing and everything must have been created, then God must have a creator too. And the creator of God must also have one. Thus there is an infinite stack of creators, which is impossible. Thus, logically, God cannot exist."

The standard answer to this is that God has always existed without a beginning and without an end, not subject to the laws of the material universe or logic that rule the mechanics of the universe.

Christians do not believe in a finite God, thus an infinite stack of creators would not be a logical issue, even if we agreed that logic is valid outside the universe as well.

Although on the surface it is an interesting angle, it will not work with Christians as it requires a finite God and an extrapolation of logic beyond the bounds of the universe.

In physics and any other scientific discipline where mathematical formulas are used to model physical reality, they each come with their own set of conditions where they are accurate. Newtonian Physics, for example, is very accurate for most situations. But as soon as the speed approaches the speed of light, the situation changes entirely. In fact, we get into a state where your mass increases and your time decreases as your speed increases. How weird and counter-intuitive is that?

Similarly, we can argue: why would we expect logic that works on Earth also work under completely different conditions? In a sense, we would have to expect the unexpected in this regard as it would follow the same pattern.

This does not prove existence or non-existence of a God, but may help understand why seemingly straightforward logic is not that inescapable when we extrapolate to a cosmic scale (and beyond).
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:39 PM

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How about "Guaranteeing salvation since 1620" then?
That's our Church, not this forum. For guidance, please contact Pastor Ezekiel (Pastor Zeke)
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:40 PM

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I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.
Are you willing to read the Bible? I think I can even find an online copy for you. If not, then why should we waste our time talkign to you?


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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:40 PM

This whole forum is filled with retards with IQs of around 70. All they care about is baking pies and beating women for overcooking their steaks... don't expect logical answers from anyone who actually believes the sun is 50km away. These people have serious issues, and the rednecks who assault their wives should be in jail.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:44 PM

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How about "Guaranteeing salvation since 1620" then?
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:45 PM

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This whole forum is filled with retards with IQs of around 70.
You guys choose to keep coming here. Why not leave this little corner of the internet in peace instead of forcing your own opinions on others.

So what if you are offended by things you see here? Are you going to turn your life around because we are offended by you? No, of course not. Do you think you will make an intelligent impression by insulting people? Not likely.

What you find offensive is the knowledge that there are some people who choose to not live decadent lifestyles and still be happier than you. You want everyone to be miserable so that you don't have to try to make your own life better.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 10:56 PM

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You guys choose to keep coming here. Why not leave this little corner of the internet in peace instead of forcing your own opinions on others.

So what if you are offended by things you see here? Are you going to turn your life around because we are offended by you? No, of course not. Do you think you will make an intelligent impression by insulting people? Not likely.

What you find offensive is the knowledge that there are some people who choose to not live decadent lifestyles and still be happier than you. You want everyone to be miserable so that you don't have to try to make your own life better.
When did I ever say that I lived a miserable life or was not content? I do not see how I offend, all of the listed points in my previous post were taken directly from previous threads on this forum. I simply wonder how a society can believe in the Bible so literally that a distressed woman is forced to marry their rapist. And it is not that I don't believe in the Bible, I am a Christian- just not a fanatic.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 11:02 PM

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I am a Christian- just not a fanatic.
Can you please cite scripture that does away with Deut. 22, then? I really find it upsetting that we have to follow it, but I have YET to find anything that does away with it. If you aer a True Christian™ I know you will help me out.

that said, I think that you just like to call yourself a Christian for some reason. Perhaps it makes you gfeel warm and fuzzy. perhaps you just like teh inst-community it gives you. Perhaps you don't want to upset your parents. Whatever the reason it is NOT becuase you think that teh Bible is the inerrent word of God. Right?

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When did I ever say that I lived a miserable life
It is simple psychological deduction. Are you happy with your life? Do you enjoy going to Christian forums to flame people there?

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I simply wonder how a society can believe in the Bible so literally that a distressed woman is forced to marry their rapist.
It has been explained ad-nauseam. Also, numerous statistics have been presented that show that not all "rape" is what you imagine in your head. Ever hear of statutory rape where the woman was not forced or violated?

You came in here with preconceived notions. The reason you mention the rapist thread is because some other site linked here telling everyone how retarded this community is.

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And it is not that I don't believe in the Bible, I am a Christian- just not a fanatic.
If you favor your own interpretation over what is written, then you don't believe in the Bible, but in some feel-good fiction.
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 11:23 PM

Your references to the Bible are irrelevant, your Bible is not the same as mine.

Your questions are very poor, besides why would you care what I have to say? I am a Canadian: Oh My GOD! Devil's country! and I am a Catholic who goes to a Catholic private school: AHH! Every single priest rapes little boys!!!

One question for you... Why do you feel that you must, or are even allowed to Trademark™ your Christianity?
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 11:29 PM

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Your references to the Bible are irrelevant, your Bible is not the same as mine.

Your questions are very poor, besides why would you care what I have to say? I am a Canadian: Oh My GOD! Devil's country! and I am a Catholic who goes to a Catholic private school: AHH! Every single priest rapes little boys!!!

One question for you... Why do you feel that you must, or are even allowed to Trademark™ your Christianity?
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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-12-2010, 11:37 PM

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Default Re: what's wrong with you people? - 01-13-2010, 12:02 AM

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I am a Catholic who goes to a Catholic private school: AHH! Every single priest rapes little boys!!!
Thand God™ one of their own finally had the courage to step forward and admit this.
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