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Default Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-13-2010, 07:13 AM

My little niece Gracie is coming to visit me in the last week of November, and I'd love to surprise her parents by sending her back home being able to recite the entire genealogy of JESUS CHRIST.

The problem is I am not sure which genealogy I should make her learn. The one from Matthew or the one from Luke?

Indeed Matthew removed a few of JESUS' ancestors making it easier for a young child to memorize, but Luke's version is more complete.

MATTHEW:

David, Solomon, Roboam, Abia, Asa, Josaphat, Joram, Ozias, Joatham, Achaz, Ezekias, Manasses, Amon, Josias, Jechonias, Salathiel, Zorobabel, Abiud, Eliakim, Azor, Sadoc, Achim, Eliud, Eleazar, Matthan, Jacob, Joseph, JESUS.

LUKE:

David, Nathan, Mattatha, Menan, Melea, Eliakim, Jonan, Joseph, Juda, Simeon, Levi, Matthat, Jorim, Eliezer, Jose, Er, Elmodam, Cosam, Addi, Melchi, Neri, Salathiel, Zorobabel, Rhesa, Joanna, Juda, Joseph, Semei, Mattathias, Maath, Nagge, Esli, Naum, Amos, Mattathias, Joseph, Janna, Melchi, Levi, Matthat, Heli, Joseph, JESUS.

I thought about making her learn both, but the names are so different that she would likely get confused and inadvertently commit a blasphemous act by changing something the Bible says, per Deuteronomy 4:2.

Another thing I'm worried about is that she is going to think that JESUS was a mere human and not miraculously conceived by a virgin when she sees that this is actually the ancestry of Joseph, listed here as JESUS' father but who was not JESUS' father.

She might then want to see the genealogy of CHRIST's biological mother, who was supposed to have been tracked by Luke, but that can't be because that would make Mary and Joseph cousins, and Mary is not mentioned at all in that bloodline.

I suppose this is why Titus 3:9 advises us to avoid genealogies.



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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Make her learn one first, then the other one. As for the Mary problem, simply sit her down and explain to her that as a woman when Mary got married she gave up her family history by joining the family of Joseph.


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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-13-2010, 06:18 PM

I have always felt that genealogies border on mormon deceit. Also it might be confusing to a female mind that Jesus was actually his own father.
1 John 5:7,
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
That should keep her busy.



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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-13-2010, 09:09 PM

Forcing your niece to do anything sounds right up your street ya dodgy basturt
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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-13-2010, 10:10 PM

Brother B4G, I myself favor her learning Luke.

Anything hard is worth doing and think of how easy it will be later to learn Matthew. Just because she is young does not mean she gets a free pass at doing Gods Work®.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-14-2010, 08:46 AM

Young children do need to be forced to do things, and beaten frequently if they are to become responsible adults.

Proverbs 22:15

Little girls need to be told how dirty they are, contaminating all of humanity with filth

Job 25:4

and told by men.

I Timothy 2:12.

God tells us that women are not to teach for a reason. He explains that we are easily deceived by Satan into foolish lusts and fornication with idols, giving the tragic example of perfect Adam and foul Eve.

I Timothy 2:14

If a foolish child were taught by foolish, unclean women what a terrible mess the world would be in! (although old women are allowed to teach young women to obey their husbands).

TITUS 2
4 That they may teach the young women to bee sober, to loue their husbands, to loue their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good,
obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God bee not blasphemed.

The genealogy in Luke connects the catastrophe that befell Adam (Eve's collusion with Satan) to the arrival of Jesus

I Corinthians 15:22
I Corinthians 15:45

Adam
Seth
Enosh
Kenan
Mahalaleel
Jared
Enoch
Methuselah
Lamech
Noah
Shem
Arphaxad
Cainan
Shelah
Eber
Peleg
Reu
Serug
Nahor
Terah
Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Judah
Perez
Hezron
Ram**
Amminadab
Nahshon
Salmon
Boaz
Obed
Jesse
David
Nathan
Mattatha
Menna
Melea
Eliakim
Jonam
Joseph
Judah
Simeon
Levi
Matthat
Jorim
Eliezer
Joshua
Er
Elmadam
Cosam
Addi
Melki
Neri
Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Rhesa
Joanan
Joda
Josech
Semein
Mattathias
Maath
Naggai
Esli
Nahum
Amos
Mattathias
Joseph
Jannai
Melki
Levi
Matthat
Heli
Joseph
Jesus

Don't forget to beat your neice. Otherwise she will probably finish up in Hell. We are so lucky to have The Bible, and men to instruct us.
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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-17-2010, 02:19 AM

Whenever I run into a question like this, I find a service, get in the spirit, speak in tongues. and dance with my arms in the air. Then these questions seem to go away and I feel much better.


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2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



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Default Re: Which of JESUS' Genealogies should I Force my Niece to Learn? - 11-17-2010, 02:42 AM

I meant to include that by seeing how many years between Jesus and Adam is strong evidence disproving "old universe" charlatans.

Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
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