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Cool Why Social Justice Warriors love "So what you're saying is..." - 02-12-2018, 02:24 PM

Social Justice Warriors often say "[that fact] is problematic", or "[that fact] is part of rape culture", "[that fact] supports white nationalism". What do they mean? They mean [that fact] makes people think thoughts, and leftists can predict what those thoughts will be.

One major "tell" is "So what you're saying is..."



"So what you're saying is" usually means "if your fact isn't silenced, what I predict people will end up thinking is..."

[That fact] makes people think racist/sexist/deplorable thoughts. Oh? How do you know? Have you been out at truck stops and honky-tonk bars, really getting to know people, getting them to trust you, and then asking them what the fact makes them think?

Did you even leave campus? Did you even leave twitter?

Or did YOU think racist thoughts when you heard [that fact]? In that case, speak for yourself. The fact may or may not be problematic. YOU on the other hand, clearly are.

But let's pretend that you didn't think racist thoughts when you heard [that fact]. Let's take your claims at face value.

You're a social engineer, a Machiavellian mastermind of 3 dimensional chess, always thinking 5 turns ahead, you've got every moving part in the Rube-Goldberg-machine of human behavior down to a science, every nut and bolt has precisely machined tolerances to within 0.1 nano-meters. You've got the master-plan all mapped out:
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"OF COURSE the spoon of problematic facts connects to the napkin of Nazism. Why do I have to explain this, IT'S 2018 PEOPLE!"
Yes, the chain of events is all going according to plan. All the pieces are where you want them to be. Everything is falling into place...

One question: how is President Clinton doing?

Is she facing resistance from Congress? Wait, in your world there's hardly any Republicans left in congress, of course a master of information warfare like yourself managed to convince Democrat voters that mid-term elections exist.

It must be fun in your world. I bet the victory high from electing the first female president must still be in effect.

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"Um, Comrade? COMRADE! There is no underarm deodorant in the Soviet Union. Please put your arms down."
OK, snap back to reality comrade, because in real life your 5 year plan didn't last 5 seconds.

Or elect 5 democrats. Not even 5 dogcatchers.

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The Republican Party is currently the primary party in power in the United States, holding the Presidency (Donald Trump), majorities in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, a majority of governorships and state legislatures...the GOP presently hold "trifectas" (the Executive branch and both chambers of the Legislative branch) in a majority of states (26/50) and a "Trifecta Plus" (Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches) at the federal level (as five of the nine U.S. Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican presidents)
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The dominoes are all lined up, but they're voting for Trump
I'm reminded of those cartoons were a character is getting stomped, and then they say "Aha! I've got you right where I want you". I'm going to go on google and...

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Wow. Too perfect.


Of course, True Christians do the same thing. We predict that if children get sex ed, or learn about Darwin's theory of evolution, or get vaccinated for STDs, or play Mortal Kombat, they will do this, that, and the other thing. We also make social engineering predictions 3 turns ahead, but the difference is WE WIN ELECTIONS, which proves that we know how to think 1 turn ahead, or at least we know where the pieces are on the board right now.

Social engineering is nothing more than making people do what you want. Elections are simply about making people do what you want. Elections are easy: just make your people get their butts to a polling booth:
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"It's too complicated! Were is the cracker-catapult to make the parrot jump up and light the rocket that cuts the wire..."
Most leftie plots involve a lot more than that. Most leftie plans are complex, dangerous schemes that will backfire if people don't do exactly what they want. Yet as every election proves, for people who promise they can make people do what they want, lefties are bad at making people do what they want.

Or maybe the assumption is that once leftism really gets going, there won't BE any elections to worry about.


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Default Re: When a Social Justice Warrior calls a fact "problematic"... - 02-13-2018, 01:42 AM

This is the trouble of the times we live in. People keep making up facts like global warming, Russian meddling in our elections and that tax cuts increase the deficit. None of these made up facts are in the Bible though so clearly they are all false facts promoted by the fake news media to prevent President Donald J. Trump from Making America Great Again. #MAGA

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Default Re: When a Social Justice Warrior calls a fact "problematic"... - 02-14-2018, 11:57 AM

Even within the leftist machine, sand has gnawed at all the little wheels of social engineering. And what leftist regime has passed up the opportunity for totalitarianism? I can't think of one. Even in America, liberal agendaniks introduce "big government" solutions to problems only they can see. And whether any actual problems exist or not, it's a characteristic of expanding administrations that they continue to expand. They are structured that way, initially "just to get the ball rolling" and establish liberal principles in government but once introduced they become very difficult to remove. A new personality turns up after a few years who re-activates the clockwork and it's socialism ahoy once more.

Within minds grown in such a climate, as happened in China a while ago, criticism nevertheless may sprout. The folly of totalitarianism becomes apparent and in the artwork of Hu Ming that folly finds expression as a disintegrating perception of reality.



Or perhaps reality was disintegrating and her perception was intact. But whatever her understanding, clearly the picture shows a tawdry mosaic of ideas bound to fail. Whether socialism is dumped on everyone or reserved for smaller national groups, tawdry and mosaic is all it can ever be. We know that. They know that. Pawns of happenstance remain ignorant I suppose, or are kept ignorant, but facts of reality always intrude. Problematic indeed! And when they intrude into a single mind, honesty compels thought. Perhaps "justice warriors" escape that particular malady but puppet masters know a danger to their ideology when seen.

To quickly pounce to hastily re-glue their tawdry mosaic is the work of an instant, but no amount of glue will hold the crock together forever. And that's a different school of "problematic" altogether! The fact is that uppermost in every leftist heart is destruction. Every regime founded on such ideals, from the French revolution to Baathist socialism in modern Syria, sprouts from and engenders destruction as is blatantly obvious.

Christianity is not like this. Founded on a cohesive message over many centuries the path forward is clear and for secular ideals, to whatever extent they may be realised, that fact is the most problematic of all. Do they really think that by eliminating the very source of morality..The Bible..they will construct a more moral reality? Unfortunately, yes, they do! Christians understand this fact and also understand that those who reject morality will never construct anything permanent at all, just as that artist could see in her homeland and as we see crumbling in the world today.
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Default Re: When a Social Justice Warrior calls a fact "problematic"... - 02-14-2018, 03:30 PM

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Social Justice Warriors often say "[that fact] is problematic", or "[that fact] is part of rape culture", "[that fact] supports white nationalism". What do they mean? They mean [that fact] makes people think thoughts, and leftists can predict what those thoughts will be.
But real people in real life tend to be complicated, so it's more like, [that fact] makes people think thoughts, which leads to other thoughts, which leads to counter-thoughts, which leads to counter-counter-thoughts, and then compromise thoughts, and then somebody actually does something, but they're clumsy, their instincts take over, they get caught up in the moment and what they were thinking the whole time has no connection to what they actually do.

(Deep Breath).

You don't know what it's like to be old, but I know what it's like to be young. When you're young almost everything you know has been taught to you. In order to teach it to you, we had to simplify things, in order to give you a clear picture we used brighter colors than the real thing. The cluttered background was removed, the distracting sharp edges were filed down, the confusing details were blurred out. Your view of the world is like a child's toy:



Of course when I put it this way, it sounds absurd. OF COURSE you know that trains are more complicated than that. But do you know HOW much more complicated it is?

Here's the Tokyo subway system:


And that's STILL a toy, with the bright colors and the lines straighted, and everything labeled, and all the clutter deleted. Let's zoom in a bit:


Still simplified. Everything is bright enough to see, with clean, clear lines. It doesn't tell you that part 81 is worn down. Part 57 has a hairline fracture. Part 122 is actually cheap Chinese knock-off, it will rust soon. Part 86 is actually a part 85 but it seems to work for now so nobody noticed.

That's just the transmission, just one piece of just one vehicle.

And that's just physical engineering, where you are dealing with stable, steady forces like gravity, friction, inertia, whatever.

To translate this to social engineering, imagine if parts 136 and 64 are willing to sabotage the whole thing because when you asked them to do their job you didn't ask politely enough. Imagine if part 84 refused to screw in because it has an ancestral grudge against part 70. Image parts 61 through 65 mutinying because someone heard a rumor that the gears are greased with pig fat, or beef fat. And every caboose wants to be on the front of the train, and the tracks don't want to stay straight because they want to show off what individuals they are, and the wheels decide not to turn because turning is out of fashion now, and it turns out parts 34 through 46 don't even exist, there were added to the diagram so part 90 could sell the extra lubricant on the black market...

It's almost a miracle that anything works at all. And you think that a replacement you dreamed up in your dormroom is really going to do the same job, only better?

Are you certain that you're ready for this?

Consider that one of the defining songs of your generation is someone complaining that teenage boys are too complicated:



I have been a teenage boy. I know how simple I was.

So, my dear SJW friends, the next time "So what you're saying is..." wants to escape your lips, consider that while I'm willing to swap out part 132 for a replacement 132B, and the oil dripping from part 103 is worthy of further investigation, I'm still not with your plan to bulldoze all of Tokyo in order to replace the subways with unicycle-carriages pulled by free-range organic camels. Even if it looks really cool.


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Default Re: When a Social Justice Warrior calls a fact "problematic"... - 02-14-2018, 09:48 PM

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Do you mean like this?
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Default Re: When a Social Justice Warrior calls a fact "problematic"... - 02-21-2018, 05:05 PM

I spoke one I found on some "protest" or other. He said "Not all SJWs are assholes."

The SWJ turned out to be a 20-year-old who works as a social media marketing intern - which is a totally made-up job title. The narcissistic, lazy and overconfident bastard said that SWJs were “not all self-obsessed, narcissistic, lazy and overconfident."

While stinking the place out with his sense of entitlement and righteousness, he continued “Sure some young people are superficial, and self-absorbed, but some really care - you can’t tarnish us all with the same brush”.

I told him I could, called a police officer, and had had him arrested on drugs charges.




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