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Default God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-13-2017, 05:54 PM

I am somewhat disappointed by God's approach to toothache. I am suffering myself at the moment and therefore turned to the Bible for succor:

Proverb:25:19: Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.
Jer:31:30: But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

They’re not a great deal of help, are they? They just tell me what I know. There is no other mention of toothache in either the OT or NT. There's plenty of gnashing and grinding, and breaking other people's teeth - there are teeth like flocks of sheep even (all woolly and wandering around in your mouth - Song:4:2), but of painful teeth, there is silence.


I did think that there could be demons in my teeth, but I dismissed this as I go to church every day and read the Bible more often than a Catholic priest fiddles with minors.

In all of Judah and Israel, there must have been a few people with toothache at any one time, but if they did, they did not manage to feature in the OT or the NT. Mind you, I can understand this - if you've got toothache, you don't feel much like going out and doing some Godly deed, do you? Well, I don't - I just wonder why there is no clear instruction in the Bible - perhaps there is a lost Gospel?

It would have been very useful to those who preach the Gospel to have Jesus do "The Miracle of the Toothache" - I can see it now:

“And there was, at that time, in Judea, a man who was a rich man and who was seized of toothache with a great ache-ance, and the aching was great. And the man came unto Jesus Who had just finished curing a man with one leg and said, “Lord, Lord, I cry out with pain and woe, there is great pain, even yea as I say these words, and whereas I may be rich, my riches are as nought when set against this pain. It is very much ‘of this world’ as Thou doest say, and yet I would give those riches to be free.”

And then Jesus could poke his finger in his mouth and all his teeth would be as a flock of sheep, and the rich man would give all his treasure to the poor and go to heaven.

It is not at all one of those Miracles that atheists like to say are “impossible”, and think of all the interpretations (i.e. use as a metaphor for pain inflicted on the innocent by a just and loving God) that there could have been. A rich vein to be mined.

Of course, the downside would be that every man and his dog would think that because Jesus said that His disciples could perform miracles, that they could do it themselves, whereas they can’t because they are not True Christians. This could have led to a situation where faith was lost.

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Anyway, the earliest booking for The Landover Prayer Warriors I can get is next Friday - in the meantime, your prayers - however amateurish - are appreciated.


Yours in pain and Christ

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Talking Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-14-2017, 02:53 AM

Dear Pastor,

My prayers are, of course, with you. However, it is obvious that Jesus must have His reasons to give you the unfortunate predicament of tooth spoil. It is equally obvious that the precedent that we have to examine in your context is the Book of Job: Wanton harassment of an impeccable sin-free individual to show the Evil Forces that God's Own cannot be persuaded to abandon Him! If we look at the Book of Job, we immediately remember Chapter 29, where Job describes (but does not boast about) all the good and nice things he did unto others.

Job 29:15-18
I was eyes to the blind, and feet [was] I to the lame. I [was] a father to the poor: and the cause [which] I knew not I searched out. And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth.

Now, by using Creation Science, we understand that the "braking of the jaw" is not the usual fist-fight by a hamburger stand after midnight but, in fact, means drilling the tooth or bone to remove the pus that has accumulated. In fact, Job was a qualified dentist.

We all know that your purity greatly surpasses that of Job. Still Jesus sends to toothache. Job did get his recompensation: He suffered lots of collateral damage including the killing of his children and even cattle by Jesus. But he got a new and better family. You may lose your tooth but Jesus will eventually give you a new and better one. Perhaps by jawbraking and spoil-plucking, perhaps in heaven. These new teeth will have unrotting roots and they will have foundations in Christ.



This image will show you the new veneers you'll receive in Heaven!

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That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Almost as good as these!






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Default Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-14-2017, 08:36 AM

The Bible (KJV1611) does mention using a lump of figs for a boil, and maybe that might work for a toothache as well.

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For Isaiah had said, Let them take a lump of figs, and lay it for a plaister upon the boil, and he shall recover.

- Isaiah 38:21
While Exodus mentions the land of milk and honey, there is no mention of using the honey to treat a toothache. On the other hand, honey is known to have an antibacterial activity of hydrogen peroxide - so maybe we're all supposed to be eating honey to avoid toothaches.

Maybe that's why many people seek out a good jew doctor when it comes to things like this - they're more familiar with the Old Testament.


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Now, by using Creation Science, we understand that the "braking of the jaw" is not the usual fist-fight by a hamburger stand after midnight but, in fact, means drilling the tooth or bone to remove the pus that has accumulated. In fact, Job was a qualified dentist.
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Thank you Elmer - who would have thought that Job had access to high-speed bronze drills. My faith is renewed.
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The Bible (KJV1611) does mention using a lump of figs for a boil, and maybe that might work for a toothache as well.
So I found a lump of figs...



but I am having difficulty getting them all into my mouth...





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I am wondering, maybe this verse would be of use:

1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.


Maybe a little wine (I'd recommend a nice bottle of Gewürztraminer) would be helpful for the tooth infirmity?

If it's a tooth cavity, pouring wine and oil on it might help as well:

Luke 10:34 And went to [him], and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

In the end, it is the only prayer that will save you, though:

James 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

After all, it's Himself Who gave you that toothache:

Job 5:18 For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.
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I am wondering, maybe this verse would be of use:

1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.


Maybe a little wine (I'd recommend a nice bottle of Gewürztraminer) would be helpful for the tooth infirmity?
Good idea! However, Gewürztraminer should be drunk at 38 degrees, and that would set my tooth off. Fortunately, I have a few bottles of Chateau Mouton-Rothschild 1945 in the cellar - this is best at room temperature (72 deg - or 86 if Mrs B is in the room ) if you give the bottle a good shake to mix the goodness in and then add some lime juice, it is quite palatable.

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If it's a tooth cavity, pouring wine and oil on it might help as well:

Luke 10:34 And went to [him], and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Or perhaps there was a dentist at the inn...

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In the end, it is the only prayer that will save you, though:

James 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
You can skip the second bit, praying 4 times a day does the job - It's your prayers I want - it seems selfish to pray for yourself.
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After all, it's Himself Who gave you that toothache:

Job 5:18 For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.
It is always possible that He has temporarily forgotten me. It happens:
Psalms:13:1: How long wilt thou forget me, O LORD? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me?





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You can skip the second bit, praying 4 times a day does the job - It's your prayers I want - it seems selfish to pray for yourself.
I am praying fervently, Pastor!

Although my prayer may be meaningless, as God clearly favors prayers of righteous men, not women:

James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
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I have a few bottles of Chateau Mouton-Rothschild 1945 in the cellar
My colleague, pastor namesake. I was under the impression that the relatively nice gift I received for Christmas 2013 was the last bottle of the old '45 that you had in your cellar. I am so glad to know that you've obtained some new old stock. You may visit me next weekend for a potluck dinner. I'll take care of the snacks and you may bring the wine.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-15-2017, 04:07 AM

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My colleague, pastor namesake. I was under the impression that the relatively nice gift I received for Christmas 2013 was the last bottle of the old '45 that you had in your cellar. I am so glad to know that you've obtained some new old stock. You may visit me next weekend for a potluck dinner. I'll take care of the snacks and you may bring the wine.


And I'll bring the entertainment.
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Default Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-15-2017, 04:10 AM

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And I'll bring the entertainment.
During Witch Hunting season? Yeah, you'll entertain them, for a few minutes.

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Default Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-15-2017, 05:07 AM

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During Witch Hunting season? Yeah, you'll entertain them, for a few minutes.

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Default Re: God's approach to toothache - Prayers required - 10-15-2017, 08:00 AM

Sorry about that. I hope you feel better, soon.

Which tooth is it that is hurting you?


May you be a blessing to every life you touch.
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