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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-20-2018, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
He isnt the one I was talking about that referenced it but he is the one that wrote it. What is your theory anyways?
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I don't have "theories" I have the Word of God. He actually made the stars and the whole universe. Lycia did refer to the Reverend's post but had clearly read it:
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Originally Posted by Lycia The Repentant
Our Godly Rev. Jim Osborne has proven that stars are actually giant diamonds here.
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Ezekiel Bathfire provided some scientific "research" about diamonds which obviously applies an ill-informed interpretation to the data, remember even "scientists" themselves acknowledge their failure to visit wherever it is they're speculating about but the principle is there I suppose.
Then there was this piece of idiocy:
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Originally Posted by Ninjaseverywhere
Stars light doesn't go forever or else eventually every star in the universe would be visible to us. Only stars close enough for their light to reach us will ever be seen much like if I shine a flashlight it is strong enough for you to see from a few yards away but it becomes invisible at greater distances. Same with stars only their light is stronger therefore visible from farther away from a flashlight.
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Now I don't care if you call it light or φως or mwanga or electro-magnetic-radiation which are essentially just synonyms for the same thing although the first two are more economical with syllables, the highlighted statement remains at variance with the claims of science (the light we do see is what fails to go on forever due to its hitting the retina) and with what God explains about light.
John 1:1,4 In the beginning was the Word
the Word was with God
the Word was God.
In him was life
the life was the light of men. What humans (scientists are the ones defining stuff here) call light or φως or mwanga or electromagnetism is what God refers to as His Word. Some people refer to Divine emanations. Whatever. There is one particular characteristic described, however:
I Peter 1:24b-25a The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. You seem very concerned that people should read things. Have you managed to read the really quite simple requirement for an introduction when signing up? We would appreciating knowing a little more about your walk with Christ.
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John 1:1-51
I Peter 1:1-25
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-20-2018, 12:39 PM
Ah you dont need theories. So then tell me where in the Bible does it say the exact distance of the stars? Where does it say that the firmament is 50 miles above us?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-20-2018, 12:54 PM
Ah but you are working on theories. Where in the Bible does God tell us the exact distance of the stars? Or that the firmament is 50 miles above us? He was so careful in stating the exact size of Noah's Ark.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-20-2018, 01:40 PM
Hey Mitza,
When God said His word was the light it was a metaphor for Him and His Word being a beacon for all of man kind. And as far as introducing my walk to this forum, why do they categorize me as unsaved trash? Or anyone for that matter?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
He isnt the one I was talking about that referenced it but he is the one that wrote it. What is your theory anyways?
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Friend, that is the problem right there. "Theories".
I could make up wild tales until the cows come home and demand you believe them. That does not make them true. On the other hand, if I get a terrific soup I'll ask the recipe be written down so a female at my home can duplicate it. The recipe is facts. How it is made. Not a guess or a 'this is my opinion'. The Bible on the other hand, was written by Gods Divine Guidance. God made everything and therefore knows EXACTLY what everything is and how it was done. Fact, not real "theory".
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 07:36 PM
Ok then why didnt God say I have hung the stars 100,000 miles?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
Ok then why didnt God say I have hung the stars 100,000 miles?
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Don't be silly! He also didn't say, "When you sneeze, be a dear and cover your mouth so you don't spew your disgusting mucoidal droplets all over your friend over a cup of coffee." Or do you think the LORD has to do all the thinking for you, too?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 09:12 PM
No Mary I dont expect him to lay everything out for me. But that's part of your argument is that it is all laid out and there can be no deviation from it at all yet now you are saying we have to think for ourselves. Why did he give an exact description of the Ark but not the distance of the stars?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 09:19 PM
Question when was Lucifer cast out of heaven with his angels?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
No Mary I dont expect him to lay everything out for me. But that's part of your argument is that it is all laid out and there can be no deviation from it at all yet now you are saying we have to think for ourselves. Why did he give an exact description of the Ark but not the distance of the stars?
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If and when the LORD commands me to do something with the stars, I have full faith that He will tell me all the information I need to complete the task. I have no doubt that if the LORD commanded you to do something and gave you the necessary information to complete the task, you would take that information and use it to abort babies, support Kamala Harris, and help the Homers shove their Gay Agenda down the throats of our kindergarteners.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:08 PM
Wow thank you Mary for assuming my agenda! For your information I despise abortion, think there are only male and females and dont think that there should be anything to do with sexuality in our schools. But by all means please spread the love of Christ to everyone with your kind words.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
Wow thank you Mary for assuming my agenda! For your information I despise abortion, think there are only male and females and dont think that there should be anything to do with sexuality in our schools. But by all means please spread the love of Christ to everyone with your kind words.
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I didn't have to assume your agenda. If you have not accepted Christ Jesus as your Lord and Master, you have aligned yourself with Satan and you serve in his army; you serve his agenda - spreading destruction and moral decay.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:18 PM
Again Mary thank you for your assumption. I am saved and Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. Again preach to the masses with your kind words continue with souls to Christ with everything you say.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:28 PM
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Again Mary thank you for your assumption. I am saved and Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. Again preach to the masses with your kind words continue with souls to Christ with everything you say.
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If you were indeed Saved, you wouldn't have a lack of trust. I think you just pretend to be Saved because it brings you comfort to imagine an invisible Best Friend who lives in your mind, encouraging you to do the right-but-hard thing -- as best you understand it. And that, my dear, is the difference. A True Christian™ doesn't do the right-but-hard thing as best they understand it, but as the Bible instructs.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:47 PM
Oh Mary I'm so glad that my Salvation has nothing to do with you or your beliefs but what I know in my heart of heart to he true. And I wasnt questioning on the lack of faith I was questioning because I want to know what you think but as I can tell from you dodging the questions and your mindless attacks on whether I'm saved or not shows your lack of knowledge on even your own bible!
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
Oh Mary I'm so glad that my Salvation has nothing to do with you or your beliefs but what I know in my heart of heart to he true. And I wasnt questioning on the lack of faith I was questioning because I want to know what you think but as I can tell from you dodging the questions and your mindless attacks on whether I'm saved or not shows your lack of knowledge on even your own bible!
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Are you saying your heart is the accurate milestone by which we can determine Truth? More so than the Holy Bible?
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked:
who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-21-2018, 10:57 PM
Again dodging the question at hand! And I know my heart and so does Jesus! But then again I dont expect you to know what that means. You think that God doesnt love everyone!
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-22-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
Again dodging the question at hand! And I know my heart and so does Jesus! But then again I dont expect you to know what that means. You think that God doesnt love everyone!
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If God loved everyone, why does the Bible say that most people are going to Hell?
Why is there a sin that will not be forgiven?
Why did He create us with the urges that He hates so much He condemns us to Hell for having them?
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-22-2018, 03:23 PM
Didymus He created us free thinking! We make the choices we make. But that's why He sent us His son Jesus as a why of getting back to Him!! There is no sin that is unforgivable. John 3:16. Do you think God would send His Son to die for us if He didnt love everyone!
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Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away? -
09-22-2018, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ2018
...There is no sin that is unforgivable...
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How about you read the WHOLE Bible before you going lying to people about what it says?
Matthew 12:32 " And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
John 3:18 " He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
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...Do you think God would send His Son to "play die" FOR TWO AND A HALF ENTIRE DAYS for us if He didnt love everyone!
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FTFY, and no, because I don't believe in God, remember? Even if I did, the Bible tells a different story than the one you and many others would like to think it does.
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