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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
07-16-2016, 06:15 PM
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...OF COURSE the Earth is round!!!...if you jump inside the cabin of a moving train...then how do you explain that ships emerge upwards out of the horizon...Do you know that you can observe the curvature of the Earth from airplanes...
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Someone hasn't read the whole thread, or they'd know that all of these concerns have already been addressed.
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07-16-2016, 08:08 PM
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Someone hasn't read the whole thread, or they'd know that all of these concerns have already been addressed.
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Well, I haven't read the post you are referring to, but to be absolutely fair, I don't think anyone has ever addressed this particular concern:
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if you jump inside the cabin of a moving train .... then how do you explain that ships emerge upwards out of the horizon
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To ascertain whether this is true, you would require a coastal railway line. Fortunately, we live by the sea and there is a railway line that runs along the coast! So tomorrow my elder twins (10) will accompany Mark (6) to conduct the experiment. If (when he jumps) ships emerge out of the horizon, then I will be sure to report back. It is not obvious to me that a small boy jumping inside a moving train would have any effect on ships, but then I am not a scientist.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
07-17-2016, 04:34 AM
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You are obviously unaware of the most elementary concepts of physics.
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Are you just figuring this out today?
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07-17-2016, 05:04 AM
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You are obviously unaware of the most elementary concepts of physics.
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Are you just figuring this out today?
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Mr. Krest and Miss Beard,
I can assure you that the people at the Landover Baptist Church are very knowledgeable about the axioms of modern Creation Science. There are actually only two of them (one, if you consider the whole Glorious Bible as the single entity that it is). Obviously, all high-quality Creation Science in the fields of Baraminology, Geology, and Cosmology is based on Genesis 1:1. However, as we enter the realm of secular physics, we have to rely on another verse.
Physics is all about particles interacting, the masses, force and counter-force, levers, and potential energy. The basis of all this is as follows:
John 1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
This verse refers to Jesus, the light of men, visible light, not gamma rays nor ultraviolent light: These are the foundations of the highest-quality physics that there is, i.e., Creation Science.
Thus, if we look at Luke 4:5, where Jesus can see all the lands of the world from one viewpoint, we know that sphericity is not possible. The light of men, Jesus, visible light, would not move a twisted path, He is a straightforward guy. Why would you want to make Him something bend, crooked, a liar?
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07-17-2016, 05:06 AM
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Are you just figuring this out today?
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-13-2016, 02:48 PM
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1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?
If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.
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Just watch this video!
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2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.
This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!
That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.
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Still earth has bigger mass than the balloon, so the gravity coming from earth is higher. As a results the paper goes towards earth.
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3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.
If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.
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You should be able to detect the curvature of the Earth from an airplane at a cruising height of around 10,600 meters (35,000 feet), but you need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon. The reality is that clouds, hills and mountains mean we rarely get to see the kind of perfectly flat horizon where the curve would be most obvious.
However, you can detect the curve of the Earth from ground level at the coast with a pair of binoculars – just look for distant ships on the horizon and you’ll see that their hulls start to disappear before their masts and other superstructure. Ancient Greek scientists, who spotted this without any optical aids, used this to conclude that the Earth was round.
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09-13-2016, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Vasilis
The reality is that clouds, hills and mountains mean we rarely get to see the kind of perfectly flat horizon where the curve would be most obvious.
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How conveniently these things always happen to get in the way, essentially making people rely on faith in scientists who alone claim to know the Truth™.
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ust look for distant ships on the horizon and you’ll see that their hulls start to disappear before their masts and other superstructure.
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I don't live near an ocean and I never will. They're huge bodies of water where fish live, have sex, and die in the same home. They're disgusting creatures who swim in their own excrement.
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Ancient Greek scientists, who spotted this without any optical aids, used this to conclude that the Earth was round.
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Ancient Greeks concluded having sex with boys and doing sports naked was noble. Sorry, but the Greeks are not someone a Christian would want to emulate today. Even their so-called Christians are weird, chanting in Russian, kissing icons, their priests wearing funny hats.
Welcome to the forum, Vasilis. I would encourage you to give up your Greek obsession and instead become engrossed in Christ as your Savior! Today's a great day for Redemption!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-13-2016, 08:03 PM
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Just watch this video!
Still earth has bigger mass than the balloon, so the gravity coming from earth is higher. As a results the paper goes towards earth.
You should be able to detect the curvature of the Earth from an airplane at a cruising height of around 10,600 meters (35,000 feet), but you need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon. The reality is that clouds, hills and mountains mean we rarely get to see the kind of perfectly flat horizon where the curve would be most obvious.
However, you can detect the curve of the Earth from ground level at the coast with a pair of binoculars – just look for distant ships on the horizon and you’ll see that their hulls start to disappear before their masts and other superstructure. Ancient Greek scientists, who spotted this without any optical aids, used this to conclude that the Earth was round.
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You do not have to be a Baptist or even a Christian to know that the Earth is flat. It should be obvious to everyone. Sure there are hills and valleys and mountains and oceans that break up the flatness but the Earth is flat as Jah intended. It is not round or oval or pear shaped. Also the Earth has four corners and this is confirmed in the Bible. Revelation 7:1 is one place the Bible mentions the corners of the Earth. How can there be corners if the world is round like a ball? People in Greece were once very smart according to the ladies at the Methodist School. Now the only people who come to your country are homosexuals from Europe and every one else wants to leave. I suppose all the smart people have already left.
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09-14-2016, 10:47 AM
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How conveniently these things always happen to get in the way, essentially making people rely on faith in scientists who alone claim to know the Truth™.
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you have faith to things you can not prove or understand. I don't rely on faith in scientists! Scientist can prove that something exists/happens etc
I have faith in Holy Spirit but I cannot prove it exists! That's the difference.
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I don't live near an ocean and I never will. They're huge bodies of water where fish live, have sex, and die in the same home. They're disgusting creatures who swim in their own excrement.
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Though God made the oceans, God created these "disgusting creatures".
Who are you who are going to judge God's creations?!?!?!
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Ancient Greeks concluded having sex with boys and doing sports naked was noble. Sorry, but the Greeks are not someone a Christian would want to emulate today. Even their so-called Christians are weird, chanting in Russian, kissing icons, their priests wearing funny hats.
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Greeks have their own language called Greek. They chant in Greek, but even if it was Russian what's the problem with that?!?!
Greeks kowtow images where saints are represented. It has been a whole war during Bynaztine ages about that! We don;t worship the image but the person represented in it!
One could say the same for Pope's and cardinals' hats
What is different why has to be weird?
We own a lot to ancient Greeks.
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Welcome to the forum, Vasilis. I would encourage you to give up your Greek obsession and instead become engrossed in Christ as your Savior! Today's a great day for Redemption!
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I am Greek but not obsessed at all! Christ is my Savior and Christ said "everyone is accepted into my church", scientists, homosexual, Russians etc.
All the best from Athens, Greece
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-14-2016, 10:54 AM
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You do not have to be a Baptist or even a Christian to know that the Earth is flat. It should be obvious to everyone. Sure there are hills and valleys and mountains and oceans that break up the flatness but the Earth is flat as Jah intended. It is not round or oval or pear shaped. Also the Earth has four corners and this is confirmed in the Bible. Revelation 7:1 is one place the Bible mentions the corners of the Earth. How can there be corners if the world is round like a ball? People in Greece were once very smart according to the ladies at the Methodist School. Now the only people who come to your country are homosexuals from Europe and every one else wants to leave. I suppose all the smart people have already left.
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How you can know what God intended?
Can't 4 corners be North, East, South, West? Bible is not literary written, it contains many parabolas and also Christ used to talk like this.
No, all the smart people haven't left because smart people keep being educated in Greece while growing up, so there were always be smart Greeks.
Homosexuals want to go just to an island for the parties and that's all!
Mykonos is like Ibiza. But Greece is not Mykonos.
And who I am who is going to judge someone else?!?!?!
If I remember correctly only God can judge people....
Am I mistaken?
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-14-2016, 11:18 AM
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How you can know what God intended?
Can't 4 corners be North, East, South, West? Bible is not literary written, it contains many parabolas and also Christ used to talk like this.
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Dear sinner from Grease. Let us assess these claims. Is the Bible to be taken literally?
2 Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Your claim fails. The Bible is inerrant. What about Jesus Christ? Did He use to talk about the Bible and its reliability? Verily, He did! He often referred to Scripture (the OT) and presented its narrative as the fact it is! Here's a example, the Flood of Noah was a actual historical occurrence and Jesus confirms it!
Luke 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
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No, all the smart people haven't left because smart people keep being educated in Greece while growing up, so there were always be smart Greeks.
Homosexuals want to go just to an island for the parties and that's all!
Mykonos is like Ibiza. But Greece is not Mykonos.
And who I am who is going to judge someone else?!?!?!
If I remember correctly only God can judge people....
Am I mistaken?
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No, Mykonos is not the whole of Grease, but Athens almost is. Its metropolitan area has approximately 3,750,000 inhabitants or one third of the population of the country. Athens is very eager to boast its tradition of "Greek Love" or παιδεραστία in its oft-repeated parade of Φεστιβάλ Υπερηφάνειας Αθήνας. Please, see below for proof!
Can only God judge people? Let us see!
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
So it is not if we judge but how! Who are we going to judge? Let us see!
1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
As you can see, God commands us to judge (in a righteous manner), even angels are going to be under True Christian™ judgement (that is our judgment). Even more, the mundane things as expressed in the verse above. Yours assertions fail miserably. Jesus wins, as expected!
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All the best from my office, while taking my lunch break.
Have to return into my science now and get my PhD.
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Now this is a nice fallacious argument, a simple appeal to authority. The content of your post is the thing we assess, not your credentials. A Nobelist can also err. It is the study, the materials, the analyses and the conclusions that count. Basic philosophy of science, and it is sad to see it neglected in its country of origin. As you fail to know your Bible and present only guesses and claims, why should be believe your "science" when it comes to the shape of the Earth. Why should corners suddenly become smooth contours of a geoid?
Obviously, we trust Jesus as your education seems to be badly deficient. Still, there is hope. You can discard your evil ways and accept the invitation of Jesus! He asked you to join our Forum for a specific reason you know! Education! The many threads and posts on our Forum can nicely supplement your Bible Studies if you accept your ignorance and choose Christ!
Yours in Christ,
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09-14-2016, 12:04 PM
So you believe earth is flat?
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-14-2016, 12:14 PM
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So you believe earth is flat?
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Hi Vassilis, I'm not a True Christian, but I'm trying to get in my path of salvation.
I'm really slow (1/16 injun) and I'm only on Leviticus so far; so please don't take my word for granted.
What I do know, however, is that what we believe about this topic is not important. It does not matter if we believe if the earth is flat, round, square or is a giant turtle flying in space.
What matters is what is told by God in the Bible (KJV 1611) Everything else is not important.
And God said the Earth is flat. He would know, as he created it!
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09-14-2016, 12:17 PM
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So you believe earth is flat?
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Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
From a high mountain you can see the whole Earth. This is not possible if the world is a sphere. I believe in God's Word in the Bible and its inerrancy. The Bible doesn't lie.
If the Bible tells the Truth™, then the shape of the world is as told in the Bible. I do know that many scientific instruments and our senses can tell us otherwise. If we followed the evidence of our eyes and telescopes, the only possible conclusion would be a spherical Earth. However, God has warned us that we should not believe our senses. They are unreliable. God tests us all the time by making us believe false data.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion , that they should believe a lie:
The data that you are referring to are nothing but delusions. If we cannot trust the Bible in the basic concept of the world's shape, why should be believe in Resurrection, Redemption by the temporary Sacrifice of Jesus, Heaven or Hell either? They would become as unreliable as the Earth's shape. The shape of the world is as real as the Suffering of Jesus on the Cross.
Hence. I trust God and His Word. I dismiss my unreliable senses and the data produced by space probes. The world is as the Bible tells us. It is flat, because the Bible tells us so!
Yours in Christ,
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09-14-2016, 12:20 PM
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Hi Vassilis, I'm not a True Christian, but I'm trying to get in my path of salvation.
I'm really slow (1/16 injun) and I'm only on Leviticus so far; so please don't take my word for granted.
What I do know, however, is that what we believe about this topic is not important. It does not matter if we believe if the earth is flat, round, square or is a giant turtle flying in space.
What matters is what is told by God in the Bible (KJV 1611) Everything else is not important.
And God said the Earth is flat. He would know, as he created it!
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I don't read the Old Testament.
I agree with you! It is not important at all! Well done! That was the BEST answer. Thank you.
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09-14-2016, 12:30 PM
For a strange reason I believe earth is round and God exists, Heaven exists, angels exist...
and let Go judge me on that.
PS: referring to the notification received, I don't believe in 12 Greek gods!
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Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
From a high mountain you can see the whole Earth. This is not possible if the world is a sphere. I believe in God's Word in the Bible and its inerrancy. The Bible doesn't lie.
If the Bible tells the Truth™, then the shape of the world is as told in the Bible. I do know that many scientific instruments and our senses can tell us otherwise. If we followed the evidence of our eyes and telescopes, the only possible conclusion would be a spherical Earth. However, God has warned us that we should not believe our senses. They are unreliable. God tests us all the time by making us believe false data.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion , that they should believe a lie:
The data that you are referring to are nothing but delusions. If we cannot trust the Bible in the basic concept of the world's shape, why should be believe in Resurrection, Redemption by the temporary Sacrifice of Jesus, Heaven or Hell either? They would become as unreliable as the Earth's shape. The shape of the world is as real as the Suffering of Jesus on the Cross.
Hence. I trust God and His Word. I dismiss my unreliable senses and the data produced by space probes. The world is as the Bible tells us. It is flat, because the Bible tells us so!
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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09-14-2016, 01:30 PM
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you have faith to things you can not prove or understand. I don't rely on faith in scientists! Scientist can prove that something exists/happens etc
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Yes, but, God doesn't like that:
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Knowledge is not good:
1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
That's basically because God created logic and the scientific method to be able to send more people to Hell:
1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1 Corinthians 3:18-20
18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
Feel free to click on the link in my signature if you want to know more reasons why God hates rational thinking.
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I have faith in Holy Spirit but I cannot prove it exists! That's the difference.
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The proof that you seek is in Holy Bible.
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Though God made the oceans, God created these "disgusting creatures".
Who are you who are going to judge God's creations?!?!?!
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Are you trying to convince me that you like the mosquitoes that give you the Zika virus and you like the fungi that infect you feet and you like the bacteria and viruses that give you other diseases?
I mean, you wouldn't like to judge God's creations, right?
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Greeks kowtow images where saints are represented. It has been a whole war during Bynaztine ages about that!
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Yeah, but I do not think that the iconoclasts won that argument, dear.
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We don;t worship the image but the person represented in it!
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That's an easy thing to say for a theologian or an intellectual, but if you ask simple people they'll tell you something else.
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We own a lot to ancient Greeks.
I am Greek but not obsessed at all!
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It's called bias, dear.
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How you can know what God intended?
Can't 4 corners be North, East, South, West? Bible is not literary written, it contains many parabolas and also Christ used to talk like this.
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Jesus is quite clear when He speaks in parables. However, saying that the Bible is not meant to be taken literary opens a door to way too many interpretations - including the interpretation that it was all just invented to make people feel better about themselves. Even without going to that extreme, how do you know which parts are to be treated literally and which not? Is the existence of Jesus to be treated literally? Are His Words (aside from parables) to be read literally? That is a dangerous slope and we do not accept any of that post-modernistic interpretations here.
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And who I am who is going to judge someone else?!?!?!
If I remember correctly only God can judge people....
Am I mistaken?
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Yes.
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I don't read the Old Testament.
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09-14-2016, 01:52 PM
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Yes, but, God doesn't like that:
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Knowledge is not good:
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It was Christ who asked Thomas to touch his hands to prove it was him, after his resurrection. He wanted to know by himself, not just to believe!
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1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
That's basically because God created logic and the scientific method to be able to send more people to Hell:
1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1 Corinthians 3:18-20
18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
Feel free to click on the link in my signature if you want to know more reasons why God hates rational thinking.
The proof that you seek is in Holy Bible.
Are you trying to convince me that you like the mosquitoes that give you the Zika virus and you like the fungi that infect you feet and you like the bacteria and viruses that give you other diseases?
I mean, you wouldn't like to judge God's creations, right?
Yeah, but I do not think that the iconoclasts won that argument, dear.
That's an easy thing to say for a theologian or an intellectual, but if you ask simple people they'll tell you something else.
It's called bias, dear.
Jesus is quite clear when He speaks in parables. However, saying that the Bible is not meant to be taken literary opens a door to way too many interpretations - including the interpretation that it was all just invented to make people feel better about themselves. Even without going to that extreme, how do you know which parts are to be treated literally and which not? Is the existence of Jesus to be treated literally? Are His Words (aside from parables) to be read literally? That is a dangerous slope and we do not accept any of that post-modernistic interpretations here.
Yes.
I have addressed that problem in your introduction thread.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-14-2016, 02:48 PM
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It was Christ who asked Thomas to touch his hands to prove it was him, after his resurrection. He wanted to know by himself, not just to believe!
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May I recommend you to read the New Testament (which you said you liked). Here is the passage in question. While it's always good to read the Scripture in context, I've conveniently highlighted the most relevant verses:
John 20:25-31
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
See? Believing without evidence, that what Jesus wants us to do!
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! -
09-14-2016, 02:50 PM
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I have faith in Holy Spirit but I cannot prove it exists! That's the difference.
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Yes, but you're wrong about the Holy Spirit because you're wrong about Jesus, so you have faith in the wrong thing. I'm afraid, "I was misled" won't get you out of Damnation.
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Though God made the oceans, God created these "disgusting creatures".
Who are you who are going to judge God's creations?!?!?!
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First, God also made the protozoan parasites that cause Leishmaniasis. If anyone denies they're disgusting creatures, they have a rotting flesh fetish. Secondly, I am the Daughter of the King of Kings (2 Corinthians 6:18)! True Children of God are commanded to judge, and divinely equipped to do so correctly (John 7:24). This is so we can recognize what is righteous (1st Corinthians 5:13), lest we get confused and allow ourselves to be misled (Ephesians 5:11).
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Greeks have their own language called Greek. They chant in Greek, but even if it was Russian what's the problem with that?!?!
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They believe that Christ comes back and pops into a magic cracker, whereby the Russians think, because they're not so clever, that the most honorable thing to do in this situation is to eat Him, digest Him, and poop Him out.
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We own a lot to ancient Greeks.
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We don't owe a thing to the ancient Greeks. They stood in the way of Righteousness in the past, which is why early Christians destroyed their temples, art, and libraries (including one of the Wonders of the Ancient World, the Library in Alexandria), and they get in the way of Righteousness today. They should be destroyed again, and the LORD sees to it they suffer a slow and cruel death-by-obscurity-and-poverty.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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