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Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 08:43 AM
We are all being taught that Pi is a fixed number, and that it doesn't change over time. It is roughly 3.14159265 and that's it.
It is however known that Pi was lower in the distant past, when earth was significantly younger than it is today.
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Pi = 30/10 = 3.
I remember that the Books of Kings takes place approx 480 years after Exodus, or 1120 BCE if we accept the Minoan eruption as the historical proof for Exodus.
If Pi equals 3.14159265 today and 3.0 3132 years ago, the mean annual increment is roughly 4,52 * 10^-5.
I am now having my wife and kids doing daily calculations of Pi with a measuring tape, in order to track sudden rapid increments. It is well known that Jesus have the power to change mathematics on the fly, and a sudden change in the value of Pi might mean a high probability of second coming in the near-future.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 09:11 AM
No. If the Bible says it is 3, then it is 3. The Bible contains the absolute eternal truth that will never change.
God is unchanging: Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8
God is just: Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lukasekman
We are all being taught that Pi is a fixed number, and that it doesn't change over time. It is roughly 3.14159265 and that's it.
It is however known that Pi was lower in the distant past, when earth was significantly younger than it is today.
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Pi = 30/10 = 3.
I remember that the Books of Kings takes place approx 480 years after Exodus, or 1120 BCE if we accept the Minoan eruption as the historical proof for Exodus.
If Pi equals 3.14159265 today and 3.0 3132 years ago, the mean annual increment is roughly 4,52 * 10^-5.
I am now having my wife and kids doing daily calculations of Pi with a measuring tape, in order to track sudden rapid increments. It is well known that Jesus have the power to change mathematics on the fly, and a sudden change in the value of Pi might mean a high probability of second coming in the near-future.
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Mmm, I never knew pi had changed, I thought it was still 3. Especially taking notice of Redeemed Papist signature
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lukasekman
We are all being taught that Pi is a fixed number, and that it doesn't change over time. It is roughly 3.14159265 and that's it.
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This figure of 3.14159265 is an invention of liberal apologists, who somehow want to deny God's Word.
Think about it - how many numbers in secular science are "round numbers"? None!
e is approximately 2.71828
the golden ratio is approximately 1.61803
Square root of 2 ≈ 1.41421
Etc.
So, ancient apologists writing for the benefit of the Anti-Christ, the pope, will wish to impress him, so they add some numbers on to 3 and it "looks good".
I don't approve of these "Liars for Christ." Jesus did not lie - Pi = 3
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lukasekman
We are all being taught that Pi is a fixed number, and that it doesn't change over time. It is roughly 3.14159265 and that's it.
It is however known that Pi was lower in the distant past, when earth was significantly younger than it is today.
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Pi = 30/10 = 3.
I remember that the Books of Kings takes place approx 480 years after Exodus, or 1120 BCE if we accept the Minoan eruption as the historical proof for Exodus.
If Pi equals 3.14159265 today and 3.0 3132 years ago, the mean annual increment is roughly 4,52 * 10^-5.
I am now having my wife and kids doing daily calculations of Pi with a measuring tape, in order to track sudden rapid increments. It is well known that Jesus have the power to change mathematics on the fly, and a sudden change in the value of Pi might mean a high probability of second coming in the near-future.
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I'm afraid what you are doing is buying into the fallacy promogulatified by those fat cat so called scientist who use the idea that pi is 3.141... to hate on God, extend their tenure and lure young, healthy, bright eyed, eager young youths into the so called Social Sodomy that is universities today.
Pi is 3.
FACT.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 11:21 AM
My Science teacher says that Pi is equal to 22/7 which you can measure by drawing a circle and seeing how many rimes you can fit the radius around the circumference. We tried it at school (I go to a public school) and it somehow was more than three???
I went home and told my mother and she clearly pointed our every reference in the Bible of where Pi = 3
What is the truth??
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Webster
My Science teacher says that Pi is equal to 22/7 which you can measure by drawing a circle and seeing how many rimes you can fit the radius around the circumference. We tried it at school (I go to a public school) and it somehow was more than three???
I went home and told my mother and she clearly pointed our every reference in the Bible of where Pi = 3
What is the truth??
BTW, I'm new here so be nice
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Try True Christian homeschooling, you won't learn nonsense like that there Of course it is 3, why doubt the word of God......
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 11:47 AM
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Try True Christian homeschooling, you won't learn nonsense like that there Of course it is 3, why doubt the word of God......
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I don't live in America where the privileged have the possibility of being home schooled.... Should I move there??
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 11:59 AM
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I don't live in America where the privileged have the possibility of being home schooled.... Should I move there??
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Hi Daniel.
Why would you need to ask anything about God when every answer you need is in the Bible (KJV1611)?
That is the beauty of being a True Christian™.
The Bible (KJV1611) is the only manual of life that you will ever need: I base all of my moral and every other decision on what God tells us in His hallowed book (the BibleKJV1611).
Why only today I was reading:
Leviticus 6:1-3
6*And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2*If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the Lord, and lie unto his neighbour in that which was delivered him to keep, or in fellowship, or in a thing taken away by violence, or hath deceived his neighbour;
3*Or have found that which was lost, and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein:
And sure enough I was beset by liars and frauds assuming that because I love the Lamb that I was ripe for being deceived.
The Bible (and God) has never let me down.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lukasekman
If Pi equals 3.14159265 today and 3.0 3132 years ago, the mean annual increment is roughly 4,52 * 10^-5.
I am now having my wife and kids doing daily calculations of Pi with a measuring tape, in order to track sudden rapid increments. It is well known that Jesus have the power to change mathematics on the fly, and a sudden change in the value of Pi might mean a high probability of second coming in the near-future.
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Friend, I'd like for you to take a moment to reflect on the following verses of Scripture:
Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
The Holy Bible (KJV 1611) says that the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter is 3.00000000, so no further investigation is required. I would caution that the prince of lies (satan) is likely to be the one motivating your actions when you do things like measuring circles for yourself. If you have sufficient faith to be a Christian, you will just accept that Pi = 3.0000000000 without asking further questions. If you can't accept this Bible Fact, then you worship education and would just as readily disregard any other Bible Fact that does not fit in with your preconceived notions of what God's Creation is like. God gave us His Word precisely so that we don't have to think for ourselves.
II Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 01:41 PM
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I don't live in America where the privileged have the possibility of being home schooled.... Should I move there??
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 01:50 PM
Thanks for your answers.
I apologize if my question shown any doubt in the Holy Bible. I just thought I've found a possible way to establish a Rapture Condition scale.
The fact that Pi = 3 have three implications for my family:
First, I will know for sure how loyal and honest my family really are when I get home from my business trip. If they get Pi to something else, I'll smite my kids with red buttocks and my wife with stomach pain.
Second is that I have to refudiate my idea about using Pi as a tool in estimating current Rap-Con level.
Third is that a truly constant Pi ensure that the number of land mines needed to cover a circle with an 80 yards radius around my house is constant as well, that's great, praise Jesus!
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 02:47 PM
Well, I guess if Jealous is all-powerful, yeah, it would be totally possible for him to change pi to be exactly three. I don't see how it could happen, though, and maintain the mathematical constant not to mention it would be a bitch getting through a geometry test if Jealous decided to change the rules half way through.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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Well, I guess if Jealous is all-powerful, yeah, it would be totally possible for him to change pi to be exactly three. I don't see how it could happen, though, and maintain the mathematical constant not to mention it would be a bitch getting through a geometry test if Jealous decided to change the rules half way through.
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It was 3 when God created everything. Nothing had to be changed
II Kings 2:23-24: 23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 02:56 PM
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It was 3 when God created everything. Nothing had to be changed
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Try telling that to pretty much every serious mathematician on the face of the earth.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 03:04 PM
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Try telling that to pretty much every serious mathematician on the face of the earth.
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Why bother. They are too busy giving each other AIDS with anal sex. And if they are serious they would study the Holy Bible instead of fuzzy mathematics...
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lukasekman
We are all being taught that Pi is a fixed number, and that it doesn't change over time. It is roughly 3.14159265 and that's it.
It is however known that Pi was lower in the distant past, when earth was significantly younger than it is today.
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Pi = 30/10 = 3.
I remember that the Books of Kings takes place approx 480 years after Exodus, or 1120 BCE if we accept the Minoan eruption as the historical proof for Exodus.
If Pi equals 3.14159265 today and 3.0 3132 years ago, the mean annual increment is roughly 4,52 * 10^-5.
I am now having my wife and kids doing daily calculations of Pi with a measuring tape, in order to track sudden rapid increments. It is well known that Jesus have the power to change mathematics on the fly, and a sudden change in the value of Pi might mean a high probability of second coming in the near-future.
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This sounds like a load of hooey, even by Lutheran standards. I suggest that you spend a little more time in the Word and a little less time with this sort of nonsense.
As has been pointed out before, PI has been proved to be 3.0 exactly, several times. Indeed I have a conclusive proof if you do a little bit of searching. It is a simple process indeed, if you have the mathematical acumen for it.
But the bigger issue here is that you are getting caught up with trying to match up your perception of reality with what the Bible says, and let me tell you: this is a losing battle. Reality is such a notional concept that it can be a difficult paradigm for a person to process, especially in the multicultural day and age that we live in. As Christians, the Bible is our Rock, it is our Truth. We don't have to figure out if something is "right" or "wrong", taking into account extraneous circumstances and difficult questions: the Bible tells us, with no uncertainty.
For instance, we True Christians know that gay marriage is wrong. We don't have to take things like "love", "choice" and "personal rights" into account, because the Bible says it is icky and abominable. Done.
One of the things I've learned over the years is to turn off that "rational" part of your brain: it will lead you down a path of darkness and doubt. As I've said around here many times: "let go and let God". Let go of your doubt, let your brain go numb. And in that numbness, Jesus will guide you
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 05:21 PM
In which verse/s does the Bible state the value of Pi is equal to 3?
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 05:28 PM
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In which verse/s does the Bible state the value of Pi is equal to 3?
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If you bothered to read the original post, you'd know.
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Originally Posted by the very first post in this thread
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Pi = 30/10 = 3.
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Re: Is Pi changing over time? -
08-14-2012, 05:38 PM
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Try telling that to pretty much every serious mathematician on the face of the earth.
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No point. Some people are so solidly stuck in their own box they can't look around, much less try and take a step out of it. Some people are too emotionally wrapped up in their worldview to appreciate the Truth when it is presented to them. It's no use praying for them. God has abandoned them with a Just and Holy abandonment.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
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