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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-28-2009, 11:12 PM
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Don't you think something invented by someone with an agenda were they want to prove or disprove something is inherently suspect? Good science only reports, it doesn't make judgments.
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01-29-2009, 08:14 AM
I agree good science doesn't make judgements. Perhaps some people do have a bias towards one thing or another. But for the most part, I think many people do try to be objective about understanding their observations and trying to figure out why things are the way they are.
With a microscope, it may be true that it was created to see small things. But what kind of an agenda would one need other than curiosity and wonder? Many people create things with an agenda in mind. Most of the things made today were made with an agenda in mind. Should I be suspect about the intentions of those who made my t.v.? Or those who made my light bulb? Some inventions come purely by accident, without that particular agenda or intent in mind. While people have agendas to what they are doing, I don't think its entirely a bad thing. It's the result that matters more. So, science should certainly not make any judgments unless there is evidence to support it. I just don't think that seems to be the case, really.
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Don't you think something invented by someone with an agenda were they want to prove or disprove something is inherently suspect? Good science only reports, it doesn't make judgments.
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03-01-2009, 01:56 AM
How can you even say half of the things you said? The majority of these people have backed up their research with facts... SOLID FACTS, that are also valid, due to the fact that they've been proven. Yet you believe in a book that no one has yet to prove has actually happened? There are no solid facts that back any of it up. And to think we all came from Adam and Eve? That would then mean that we are all being sexually active with our DIRECT RELATIVES! Incest is wrong and so is what you have said.
I can't believe you would actually say that all those scientists are lying.... OH MY GOD! How to you live? in a cave? without ANY SORT of technology? Cause, guess what? Scientists invented everything you are using! i.e. the internet, which you have used to spread your blaspheme.... You have just bashed the founders of the way humans live their lives today, I hope you feel good about what you have posted, because ignorance is bliss I've been told. EDUCATE YOURSELF! Oh was high school too hard? I'm sorry to hear that, you un-educated blasphemist.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 02:11 AM
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How can you even say half of the things you said? The majority of these people have backed up their research with facts... SOLID FACTS, that are also valid, due to the fact that they've been proven. Yet you believe in a book that no one has yet to prove has actually happened? There are no solid facts that back any of it up. And to think we all came from Adam and Eve? That would then mean that we are all being sexually active with our DIRECT RELATIVES! Incest is wrong and so is what you have said.
I can't believe you would actually say that all those scientists are lying.... OH MY GOD! How to you live? in a cave? without ANY SORT of technology? Cause, guess what? Scientists invented everything you are using! i.e. the internet, which you have used to spread your blaspheme.... You have just bashed the founders of the way humans live their lives today, I hope you feel good about what you have posted, because ignorance is bliss I've been told. EDUCATE YOURSELF! Oh was high school too hard? I'm sorry to hear that, you un-educated blasphemist.
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Have you ever read the Holy Bible? Why do you take the word of a few joo scientists (proven liars) over the Word of God?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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03-01-2009, 02:20 AM
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Have you ever read the Holy Bible? Why do you take the word of a few joo scientists (proven liars) over the Word of God?
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Proven liars? I don't understand how you can even say this. How can you just dismiss scientific research?
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03-01-2009, 02:23 AM
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Proven liars? I don't understand how you can even say this. How can you just dismiss scientific research?
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Secular scientsist change their story and get caught in lies all the time. Ever heard of "Piltdown Man?"
You really might want to go back and read this thread through from the first post. You might learn something.
This is a Christian forum, son. We're here to uplift Jesus, not worship monkeys.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 02:24 AM
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Proven liars? I don't understand how you can even say this. How can you just dismiss scientific research?
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God wrote the Bible thousands of years ago.
He created the Universe and everything in it. Even you.
Meanwhile, you'd rather look to a few people -- His creation -- to explain everything that the all-knowing and all-powerful Creator did.
How sensible do you think that is, Jordan?
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03-01-2009, 02:32 AM
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God wrote the Bible thousands of years ago.
He created the Universe and everything in it. Even you.
Meanwhile, you'd rather look to a few people -- His creation -- to explain everything that the all-knowing and all-powerful Creator did.
How sensible do you think that is, Jordan?
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Proof, all I'm looking for. Oh I found some, yep you guessed it, in science. Why? Cause I can see it, in books, in practical labs in everyday life!
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03-01-2009, 02:55 AM
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Proof, all I'm looking for. Oh I found some, yep you guessed it, in science. Why? Cause I can see it, in books, in practical labs in everyday life!
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Show me the "proof" of your "big bang" from a lab.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 03:18 AM
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Proof, all I'm looking for. Oh I found some, yep you guessed it, in science. Why? Cause I can see it, in books, in practical labs in everyday life!
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Proof requires observation. We have the best possible observer with God friend. Don't you think that trumps your lab experiments?
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03-01-2009, 04:49 AM
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Proof requires observation. We have the best possible observer with God friend. Don't you think that trumps your lab experiments?
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NO. Not at all. Don't you think that acquiring actual results is good enough? Cause evolution has been proven. The "theory" that we came from Adam and Eve is wrong on so many levels. It's proven that when an incest child is born, they most likely suffer from physical or mental disabilities. Why aren't we all disabled then?
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03-01-2009, 05:00 AM
So i'm a believer in science, let me know if any of this is too complicated for you.
take a piece of string, and use it to draw a semi-circle (you know, you probably learned it in that last year of school that you completed, grade 5ish?)
Just to clearify, thats an arc thats 180˚
This is where it things get CRAZY!
Take that same piece of string and call it the 'radius' yeah thast one of those mathematical words. now carefully see how many times that string fits along the line that you have drawn as your semi-circle. Notice it fits more that 3 times. In fact, it fits 3.141592653 times. funny isnt it, that sounds like one of those things i'm not supposed to believe in. Someone needs to explain this to me.
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03-01-2009, 05:02 AM
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NO. Not at all. Don't you think that acquiring actual results is good enough? Cause evolution has been proven. The "theory" that we came from Adam and Eve is wrong on so many levels. It's proven that when an incest child is born, they most likely suffer from physical or mental disabilities. Why aren't we all disabled then?
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Because Adam didn't have any mitochondrial DNA. All of the biological 'mistakes' that happen nowdays is because women will happily breed outside their race or species and SATAN is waiting for them. If not for that, there would be no retards. No one can disagree with that from a scientific basis. It's obvious.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 05:02 AM
How can you have that many pieces of string?
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03-01-2009, 05:04 AM
its one of those things you can re-use. kinda like a bible. funny i thought even you people would figure out that much. i guess i really needed to simplify it
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03-01-2009, 05:10 AM
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So i'm a believer in science, let me know if any of this is too complicated for you.
take a piece of string, and use it to draw a semi-circle (you know, you probably learned it in that last year of school that you completed, grade 5ish?)
Just to clearify, thats an arc thats 180˚
This is where it things get CRAZY!
Take that same piece of string and call it the 'radius' yeah thast one of those mathematical words. now carefully see how many times that string fits along the line that you have drawn as your semi-circle. Notice it fits more that 3 times. In fact, it fits 3.141592653 times. funny isnt it, that sounds like one of those things i'm not supposed to believe in. Someone needs to explain this to me.
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Son, you are not going to get me to start trying to 'draw a semicircle with string' until you build a car with liquid water. HELLO, we aren't dumb here! 3.14 is closer to 3.00 than it is to 3.20. People think the Bible says '3', but they are not Biblical scholars! Pi is accurately stated in the Bible, thousands of years before anyone could measure it.
The number 3 was only for dummies and surveyors. Really clever people would recognize that the word for measuring line is usually (q-w), while in 1 Ki 7:23 it's (q-w-h). Now establish the numerical value of each word: q+w = 100+6 = 106; q+w+h = 100+6+5 = 111. Now divide 111 by 106 and multiply the outcome with the 3 for dummies. What do you get: 3.1415! Hah! Holy is the Lord!
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 05:17 AM
so you do believe in pi? hmm thats interesting
on a completely unrelated note, just out of curiousity. How many bibles are sold in a year?
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
03-01-2009, 05:23 AM
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so you do believe in pi? hmm thats interesting
on a completely unrelated note, just out of curiousity. How many bibles are sold in a year?
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I don't 'believe in' pi. It's a calculation GOD gave to Noah to build the ark. Landover sells about 20 million Bibles a year, so worldwide probably seventy million. We aren't sure; we haven't got rid of the false ones and the Qu'uran yet.
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03-01-2009, 05:29 AM
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I don't 'believe in' pi. It's a calculation GOD gave to Noah to build the ark. Landover sells about 20 million Bibles a year, so worldwide probably seventy million. We aren't sure; we haven't got rid of the false ones and the Qu'uran yet.
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Oh awesome thanks. I was just wondering because i would consider a possible 70 000 000 to be a very large number. Am i allowed to believe in that?
That leads to another innocent question. I understand that you are pressuring me to believe science is bad (yeah i cave to peer pressure pretty quick) but is scientific notation bad? becuase its writing the exact same number a different way, just like writing the bible in a different language. Oh and to make this more interesting i'd prefer the response to be written by two seperate people, without any prior discussion just to get all possible opinions.
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03-01-2009, 05:42 AM
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Oh awesome thanks. I was just wondering because i would consider a possible 70 000 000 to be a very large number. Am i allowed to believe in that?
That leads to another innocent question. I understand that you are pressuring me to believe science is bad (yeah i cave to peer pressure pretty quick) but is scientific notation bad? becuase its writing the exact same number a different way, just like writing the bible in a different language. Oh and to make this more interesting i'd prefer the response to be written by two seperate people, without any prior discussion just to get all possible opinions.
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Son, I am not fooled by 'innocent questions that aren't. I have been at this all my many years. But I am also a scientist and I write in the shorthand of science as regards numbers, formulas and equations, which are not changeable no matter what language one uses.
It is NOT like writing the Bible in a different language. GOD inspired the scribes of King James to write His Holy word in 1610. No one argues that the scribes didn't misspell a word or two. But the message is absolutely pure.
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