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Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Scientists are blind to the evidence that is in front of them. God has told us through the KJV1611 of undersea fountains that He uses to control and regulate the water on the Earth. These are 'The fountains of the deep' that God used in conjunction with 'the windows of Heaven' to flood the Earth.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained.
So now scientists have found the 'fountains of the deep' but rather than giving credit to God the Creator and use it as evidence to support the truth of the Bible they distort the facts and try to explain it away. They are blind to the truth
Ecclesiastes 2:14 The wise man's eyes are in his head; but the fool walketh in darkness.
The fountains are clearly producing some small amount of new water still. Rising sea levels? We may have the answer here.
Also the water from the fountains is up to 400°C. Why is that? What is the heat source below the Earth? Scientists will tell you that the Earth was formed by bits of rock rubbing together and when they did this they got warm. This has made the 'centre' of the Earth 3,400 °C
and it hasn't cooled down in 4,540,000,000,000 years
Anyway we all know that the Earth is only around 6,000 years old.
No, the answer to the heat question is much simpler but it's not the answer these scientist want.
The answer is HELL!!
Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-12-2011, 09:35 PM
How is it that these fountains are allowed to continue spewing God knows what kind of filth into the oceans while one little oil well is suddenly the disaster-of-the-year? Why isn't anyone protesting this?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 08:35 AM
Scientists think they can rename anything and then make some sort of point in like a circular argument or something. We called them hydrothermal vents as soon as we found them so they belong to science and are definitely not the fountains of the deep like in the Bible. Therefore God doesn't exist.
It's like the way they suddenly decide at random that bats aren't birds (even though they have wings) and then we get loads of kids going on like they discovered how to prove God doesn't exist because He doesn't know the difference between mammals and birds. Find me the word "mammal" in the Bible! If God says bats are birds then birds they are!
Same here. If God says there are fountains of the deep and we find fountains of the deep then that's what they are no matter what silly names you dream up.
What these scientists need to do is actually look at what they've found and check the reference book of the Bible before they shoot off at the mouth as if they're making sense. The evidence is all around them if only they would look.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:18 AM
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How is it that these fountains are allowed to continue spewing God knows what kind of filth into the oceans while one little oil well is suddenly the disaster-of-the-year? Why isn't anyone protesting this?
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How would you stop them?
These tings have been doing this since the beginning of the earth.
They are part of the way in which the earth circulates water around, exchanging it with deep water in the earth's crust.
They explain why the oceans do not just get more and more salty as salt is washed out of the rocks of the land.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:30 AM
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How would you stop them?
These tings have been doing this since the beginning of the earth.
They are part of the way in which the earth circulates water around, exchanging it with deep water in the earth's crust.
They explain why the oceans do not just get more and more salty as salt is washed out of the rocks of the land.
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James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Once again you need to check your sources before running off at the mouth. God's not going to fill the sea up with fresh water, is he?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:35 AM
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James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Once again you need to check your sources before running off at the mouth. God's not going to fill the sea up with fresh water, is he?
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The level of salt in the world's oceans is forever being increased by the salt washed out of the rocks on the land.
Rain fall has less salt content thjan river water.
The world's oceans would get more and more salty if there was no mechanisim for the removal of salt from the ocean water.
The hydrothermal vents put out water which is less salty than the normal sea water (normally).
Why totaly avoid and sensable thinking? Why be so deliberatly wrong?
All you succed in doing is making yourself and Christianity look foolish.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:42 AM
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The level of salt in the world's oceans is forever being increased by the salt washed out of the rocks on the land.
Rain fall has less salt content thjan river water.
The world's oceans would get more and more salty if there was no mechanisim for the removal of salt from the ocean water.
The hydrothermal vents put out water which is less salty than the normal sea water (normally).
Why totaly avoid and sensable thinking? Why be so deliberatly wrong?
All you succed in doing is making yourself and Christianity look foolish.
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Of course you've seen God's fountains and measured these things, yes. Also why are we supposed to be amazed that rain water isn't salty. A child knows this.
We know about them because God says they are there. He tells us about fountains and whether they are salty or not. We find these fountains and act all surprised when God told us they were there all along.
One of the daft notions of people that any sea water that spills over the edge of the world would empty the sea over time but now we see that God has the fountains ticking over to keep things in balance and top the sea up.
But of course that goes against the scientists' main aim of trying to kill God in the minds of men so everyone goes to their master, Satan.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:48 AM
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Of course you've seen God's fountains and measured these things, yes. Also why are we supposed to be amazed that rain water isn't salty. A child knows this.
We know about them because God says they are there. He tells us about fountains and whether they are salty or not. We find these fountains and act all surprised when God told us they were there all along.
One of the daft notions of people that any sea water that spills over the edge of the world would empty the sea over time but now we see that God has the fountains ticking over to keep things in balance and top the sea up.
But of course that goes against the scientists' main aim of trying to kill God in the minds of men so everyone goes to their master, Satan.
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Why do you come out with this rubish????
I am in England. It's 10:45 AM here. What time is it there? I assume that it's different. How can that be if the earth is flat?
Why just spout rubbish? ALL it does is make Christianity look stupid. You provide the opposition with the perfect opponent because they can easily show how you are wrong. So why set yourself up for defeat???
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 09:54 AM
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Why do you come out with this rubish????
I am in England. It's 10:45 AM here. What time is it there? I assume that it's different. How can that be if the earth is flat?
Why just spout rubbish? ALL it does is make Christianity look stupid. You provide the opposition with the perfect opponent because they can easily show how you are wrong. So why set yourself up for defeat???
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It's 10:51 where I am. How can I explain this!
You reckon you're so smart yet you claim God is wrong.
Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.
Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
God quite clearly states that you can never know how He does things.
And here you are saying you know how clouds work when you obviously don't. Just because you can mend a pipe doesn't mean you can overpower the Lord.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:18 AM
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It's 10:51 where I am. How can I explain this!
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If that's AM then you are in the same time zone as me. If it's PM then you are on the other side of the planet.
So are you in Europe or somewhere in the middle of the Pacific?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:24 AM
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If that's AM then you are in the same time zone as me. If it's PM then you are on the other side of the planet.
So are you in Europe or somewhere in the middle of the Pacific?
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Ignorance is one thing but why are you not introducing yourself in the appropriate thread? In any case, since you seem both unable and unwilling to answer any question put to you in any sincere way, perhaps there's no real point you trying to persecute us like this.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:30 AM
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In any case, since you seem both unable and unwilling to answer any question put to you in any sincere way, perhaps there's no real point you trying to persecute us like this.
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What question? I have had a look back at the earlier posts and still can not see one.
A my answers/posts are as honest and sincear as possible.
How am I persecuting you? I wish only to try to get the level of reality denal down to something that is at least not 100% stupid. I suppose that has answered my question....
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:35 AM
So why do the Americans have different time zones?
The earth revolves. The Sun does not go around the earth once a day.
Ever heard of jet lag?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:37 AM
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What question? I have had a look back at the earlier posts and still can not see one.
A my answers/posts are as honest and sincear as possible.
How am I persecuting you? I wish only to try to get the level of reality denal down to something that is at least not 100% stupid. I suppose that has answered my question....
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You have been asked to explain a number of anomalies in your posts, all of which you either ignore or give lacklustre answers to. You are not an academic, obviously, nor an intellectual, clearly, nor a theologian. You are a simpleton with only a basic grasp on the language you are communicating in, why don't you introduce yourself in the appropriate thread and we will try to save your immortal soul.
I do not have contempt for the ignorant or the unlearned such as you, I do, however, have contempt for those that do not realize their God given frailties.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:38 AM
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So why do the Americans have different time zones?
The earth revolves. The Sun does not go around the earth once a day.
Ever heard of jet lag?
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Do you think the Earth is very big or very small?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:47 AM
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Do you think the Earth is very big or very small?
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Big compaired to the distance I can walk.
Small conpaired to the distance I can fly in a modern passenger jet.
Radius about 3600 Km ( I think). I could look it up but then so could you and I don't think that that is what you are after.
The furthest I have been is Peru. I was very thrown by the way the sun went the wrong way across the sky. I should have been expecting it but it still came as a shock.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:49 AM
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So why do the Americans have different time zones?
The earth revolves. The Sun does not go around the earth once a day.
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Can you elaborate in which way should the American time zones prove your claim that “sun does not go around the earth once a day”?
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 10:52 AM
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The furthest I have been is Peru. I was very thrown by the way the sun went the wrong way across the sky. I should have been expecting it but it still came as a shock.
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You were baffled by the fact that the sun can only take one path across the firmament and you had travelled right under that path?
Did the idea that you had had to turn right around to look at the sun doing this so your right is my left if I stay put escape you?
And you say you are smart enough to gainsay God.
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Re: Hydrothermal vents NO, The Fountains of the Deep, YES!! -
09-13-2011, 11:08 AM
Time zones;
If the earth was flat the we should all see the sun rise at the same time. It should go below the horizon at the same time for all of us.
That the sun shines from vertically overhead (noon) in America whilst at the same time it is nidnight in China(I think?) shows that upwards of America is opposite of upwards in China.
Sun's Path;
I suppose that if the sun is fairly close to the earth then it could be taking one path andd seeing it from, different perspectives would give asimilar effect.
However the distance of the sun can easily be measured by a radar system. I take it that you do acept that radar works? If you send a radar pulse at the sun it's refection come back over 15 minuts later. For Radar to work at all we need to understand the speed of light. al;most 8 light minutes is a long way. 53 million miles or so.
If the sun is that far away the the angle of the sun in the sky would be almost the same whever you stood on a flat plane of some few thousand mile across.
P.S. Sorry if my spelling is upseting you, that's being dyslexic.
PP.S. Just because I acept the bleeding obvious that these scientist know what they are talking about, especially the stuff that I can test myself does not automatically mean that I abandon the message of the Bible.
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