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09-01-2010, 09:57 PM
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Yes, light can be effected by gravity that is true but the sere amount of mass needed to make light make a 360° is almost impossible, even the sun who's 109 times large than the earth can only bend light by a couple degrees, a black hole could maybe bend is 10-20° and if the earth was anything like a black hole then whether the earth was flat or not would be the last of our problems.
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Weird, I thought scientists claimed that light is made of photons and photons have no mass. How can something weightless be affected by gravity(which by definition only affects stuff with weight).
Could you point out which scientists you believe to be wrong?
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and the earth is flat so there is a big falls at the edge of the earth
but today earth is round?because the air got inside the earth created by cars,volcano,air pumping underwater monster etc.
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Dear Friend,The fact of the matter is, there are all sorts of Biblical verses that make no sense if the Earth is a sphere -- without corners or ends. Therefore, the Earth must be flat.
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Spheres have corners. And who says the Earth doesn't have an end? It might have a tiny macroscopic hole bored through it that noone knows about.
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09-12-2010, 11:35 PM
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Spheres have corners. And who says the Earth doesn't have an end? It might have a tiny macroscopic hole bored through it that noone knows about.
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Why are you here arguing with us? True Christians™ already know what to think, and we don't need any help from a godmocker like you.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes! -
03-31-2011, 06:46 AM
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Why are you here arguing with us? True Christians™ already know what to think, and we don't need any help from a godmocker like you.
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You have trademarked "True Christians?" Really? And this only KJV 1611? Come on, saying other Bibles are of the devil? A lot of people cannot understand KJV, and if all they can understand is the Message, God isn't going to punish them for it. It's not about reading a book and following it like a walk-through to life. It's all about your relationship with God, an intimate relationship. Why don't we all learn the languages the Bible was originally written in, and then we can know for sure we're getting the correct word, because let's face it, any translation of any sort is not as accurate as we would like to believe. Who gives you or anyone the right to say you're going to hell or what not?
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03-31-2011, 07:02 AM
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You have trademarked "True Christians?" Really? And this only KJV 1611? Come on, saying other Bibles are of the devil? A lot of people cannot understand KJV, and if all they can understand is the Message,
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If you are reading The Message, you have no business reading anything but Run Spot Run until you are proficient enough to at least read the English Standard or American Standard.
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God isn't going to punish them for it. It's not about reading a book and following it like a walk-through to life.
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You are saying we shouldn't do what the Bible says? How is blasphemy working out for you?
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It's all about your relationship with God, an intimate relationship.
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You make it sound so seedy.
How can you know what God wants if you aren't reading the Bible?
If you are just zoning out and listening for what God wants from you, you will find the voice coincidentally wants all the same things you do.
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Why don't we all learn the languages the Bible was originally written in, and then we can know for sure we're getting the correct word,
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I am trying to learn the Greek and Hebrew, but it is slow going. The thing I have found is that the King James is a lot closer to a literal translation than the Message, NIV or NLT.
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Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes! -
03-31-2011, 10:28 AM
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Who gives you or anyone the right to say you're going to hell or what not?
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Only Jesus, that's who.
Matthew 16:19, "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
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03-31-2011, 03:42 PM
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Only Jesus, that's who.
Matthew 16:19, "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
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Once again, this verse was directed at the twelve apostles! This is what gets me upset with this site, is because you give scripture which is great, but you don't analyze, paraphrase, or give it some context.
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Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes! -
03-31-2011, 03:55 PM
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Once again, this verse was directed at the twelve apostles! This is what gets me upset with this site, is because you give scripture which is great, but you don't analyze, paraphrase, or give it some context.
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So you think Jesus was only talking to an elite group who would have special powers over the rest of us. That sounds suspiciously like what the Catholics would like everyone to believe.
But if you want an elaboration of our position. No, we TRUE Christians™ can not damn anyone. We're not as arrogant as the Pope is. When we say someone is going to Hell we what we means Jesus is telling us in our hearts of hearts that they are damned.
We are only the messenger. God does the judging.
Jesus speaks in your hearts of hearts too friend and tells you are heading for damnation. I will pray you open your ears to Him before it is to late friend.
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03-31-2011, 06:05 PM
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So you think Jesus was only talking to an elite group who would have special powers over the rest of us. That sounds suspiciously like what the Catholics would like everyone to believe.
But if you want an elaboration of our position. No, we TRUE Christians™ can not damn anyone. We're not as arrogant as the Pope is. When we say someone is going to Hell we what we means Jesus is telling us in our hearts of hearts that they are damned.
We are only the messenger. God does the judging.
Jesus speaks in your hearts of hearts too friend and tells you are heading for damnation. I will pray you open your ears to Him before it is to late friend.
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Yes, I not only think, I know he was talking to the twelve apostles. I burst out laughing every time I read the trademark sign beside your expression! As if this Church has exclusive rights to being a "True Christian." You can say it differently. For example: "Son, I am not one to judge, but I feel that what you are doing is not Godly, and you should read the Bible and talk to him." Not "See you in hell, where we'll be laughing!" How encouraging is that to non-Christians? And no, I know God died on the Cross for my sins, and that he has forgiven me for them. I actually have a relationship with God. I hope you do know that is what it is all about.
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03-31-2011, 07:21 PM
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Yes, I not only think, I know he was talking to the twelve apostles. I burst out laughing every time I read the trademark sign beside your expression! As if this Church has exclusive rights to being a "True Christian." You can say it differently. For example: "Son, I am not one to judge, but I feel that what you are doing is not Godly, and you should read the Bible and talk to him." Not "See you in hell, where we'll be laughing!" How encouraging is that to non-Christians? And no, I know God died on the Cross for my sins, and that he has forgiven me for them. I actually have a relationship with God. I hope you do know that is what it is all about.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the relationship you speak of involves you closing your eyes and asking God what He wants. It turns out, in your mind, He wants all the same things you do deep down inside. What a coincidence.
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03-31-2011, 07:50 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the relationship you speak of involves you closing your eyes and asking God what He wants. It turns out, in your mind, He wants all the same things you do deep down inside. What a coincidence.
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No, I am pretty sure you think you cannot have a relationship with God, and no, actually not...God speaks. Believe me, God speaks even today. I went to a foreign country, and the children sang like there was no Tomorrow-you can feel God in there. I don't know how well you can feel God if you have to book in advance your attendance at a service, and pay an entry fee!
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03-31-2011, 07:59 PM
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No, I am pretty sure you think you cannot have a relationship with God,
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Oh I know you can have a relationship with God, but so many false Christians substitute their "special relationship" that only they have with God for scholarship and study of the Word. Before you know it, the poor things are so deluded as to think they know better what God wants over what the Bible says.
I am listening to God now and He tells me we should live by every word that proceeds from His mouth. You are listening to God and He tells you that you should live by cafeteria half measures ignoring the parts you don't like in favor of the ones you do.
Which one of us is correct? Let me guess. You believe you are correct because the voice in your head tells you that you are. It just happens to coincide with what you want to believe.
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03-31-2011, 08:07 PM
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Oh I know you can have a relationship with God, but so many false Christians substitute their "special relationship" that only they have with God for scholarship and study of the Word. Before you know it, the poor things are so deluded as to think they know better what God wants over what the Bible says.
I am listening to God now and He tells me we should live by every word that proceeds from His mouth. You are listening to God and He tells you that you should live by cafeteria half measures ignoring the parts you don't like in favor of the ones you do.
Which one of us is correct? Let me guess. You believe you are correct because the voice in your head tells you that you are. It just happens to coincide with what you want to believe.
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And no, I agree a hundred percent we are to live by each one of his words, but if we stumble it is not "Game Over," and we can ask for forgiveness. That, my friend, is the beauty of God's love for us. =)
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03-31-2011, 08:12 PM
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And no, I agree a hundred percent we are to live by each one of his words, but if we stumble it is not "Game Over," and we can ask for forgiveness. That, my friend, is the beauty of God's love for us. =)
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By definition no TRUE Christian™ will stumble because Christ is guiding their lives. If they stumble that would show they really aren't a TRUE Christian™.
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Yes, I not only think, I know he was talking to the twelve apostles. I burst out laughing every time I read the trademark sign beside your expression! As if this Church has exclusive rights to being a "True Christian." You can say it differently. For example: "Son, I am not one to judge, but I feel that what you are doing is not Godly, and you should read the Bible and talk to him." Not "See you in hell, where we'll be laughing!" How encouraging is that to non-Christians? And no, I know God died on the Cross for my sins, and that he has forgiven me for them. I actually have a relationship with God. I hope you do know that is what it is all about.
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You try that on some godmocking pron addicted Atheists scumbag and see how far your puss footing gets you. They will just laugh at you and post a picture of some woman in a BDSM, that's what kind of trash Atheists are. An Atheists is just a hate filled walking pile of excrement shaped like a human being bent on rape and mockery.
No, you look that Atheist in the eye and say "Son, God is going to toss you onto Satan's barbered tallywacker and laugh at you while you scream while demons rape you family!" That gets those atheists attention and turns their hearts towards Jesus' unconditional love.
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03-31-2011, 08:23 PM
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By definition no TRUE Christian™ will stumble because Christ is guiding their lives. If they stumble that would show they really aren't a TRUE Christian™.
You try that on some godmocking pron addicted Atheists scumbag and see how far your puss footing gets you. They will just laugh at you and post a picture of some woman in a BDSM, that's what kind of trash Atheists are. An Atheists is just a hate filled walking pile of excrement shaped like a human being bent on rape and mockery.
No, you look that Atheist in the eye and say "Son, God is going to toss you onto Satan's barbered tallywacker and laugh at you while you scream while demons rape you family!" That gets those atheists attention and turns their hearts towards Jesus' unconditional love.
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Those are not words of a Christian, which by definition is a minituate Christ. He would not talk about that. Ha, there are a lot of lost people on this site that are heading to hell, and it breaks my heart.
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03-31-2011, 08:31 PM
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Those are not words of a Christian, which by definition is a minituate Christ. He would not talk about that. Ha, there are a lot of lost people on this site that are heading to hell, and it breaks my heart.
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Jesus wouldn't talk like what?
Jesus gets right up into the face of people who don't agree with Him or listen and He is not afraid to call a couple of names.
- "DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
- "SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
- "VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
- "HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
- "CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
- "PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
- "REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
- "HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
- "FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
- "O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
- "STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
- "LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
- "ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
- "WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .
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03-31-2011, 08:54 PM
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Jesus wouldn't talk like what?
Jesus gets right up into the face of people who don't agree with Him or listen and He is not afraid to call a couple of names.
- "DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
- "SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
- "VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
- "HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
- "CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
- "PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
- "REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
- "HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
- "FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
- "O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
- "STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
- "LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
- "ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
- "WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .
The message of the Bible is not love. It is repent or perish!
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No, the message of the Bible is God's love, fool.
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No, the message of the Bible is God's love, fool.
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Oh dear!
I fear for your immortal soul now. You had best start praying you didn't just damn yourself with that statement.
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
You will answer for it come judgment day!
Matthew 12:36-37 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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@Pastor Sampson: I guess he told you. How can you refute this:
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No, the message of the Bible is God's love, fool.
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Nice use of scripture to back up your absurd claim, S-C-3-1-3. I am certainly impressed.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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