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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 06-22-2011, 03:34 AM

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Friend, the Bible and I disagree strongly with what I have bolded above.

Sin is a voluntary choice to rebel against God (Is 30:9). No one is born a sinner (Ezk 18:19-20), there are no such things as involuntary, compulsory, or accidental sins (Ezk 3:19, I Jn 3:4), and there is no such thing as irresistible temptation (I Cor 10:13).

Only unsaved people sin, and a Christian, once saved, never sins again. If you sin, it is proof that you are not saved. (I Jn 3:6-9)

The doctrine of "original sin" is a lie. It's just an excuse for people to avoid responsibility for their own sins. People try to say that they can't help but sin, and, pardon my French, but that's just a bunch of bull hockey. Anybody can avoid sin. All you have to do is not do it. I don't see what's so hard about that.

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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-20-2013, 11:02 PM

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Persons wishing to collect the $250,000,000 may submit their evidence in writing along with a nonrefundable $5000 processing fee. They are busy people and do not wish to waste time on foolish responses, and this is why the $5000 nonrefundable processing fee is required.
i couldnt help but laugh when i read the $5000 fee. of course i understand the reason behind it.

you obviously dont believe in the germ theory. i would like to know what you believe causes people to become sick.
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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-20-2013, 11:16 PM

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i couldnt help but laugh when i read the $5000 fee. of course i understand the reason behind it.

you obviously dont believe in the germ theory. i would like to know what you believe causes people to become sick.
Hello Pentix.

There are many things that can cause illness even something like a broken spirit look at Proverbs 17:22 it says:

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

Thank you.

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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germunists - 10-21-2013, 03:02 AM

You can't change a theory into a Law. It doesn't work that way, never has and never will.
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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germunists - 10-21-2013, 03:23 AM

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You can't change a theory into a Law. It doesn't work that way, never has and never will.
Hi, and welcome to our friendly forum! The truth is, scientists change their minds all the time. This so-called "germ theory" is only one such fabrication created in the imagination of the Big Pharma Profit Division.

A few examples of changing scientific "theory" include:
  • Spontaneous generation - is a principle regarding the origin of life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s).
  • Transmutation of species, Lamarckism, inheritance of acquired characteristics - first theories of evolution.
  • Maternal impression – the theory that the mother's thoughts created birth defects.
  • Miasma theory of disease – the theory that diseases are caused by "bad air. “
  • Recapitulation theory – the theory that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny".
  • Telegony – the theory that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of its mother's as well as its actual parents
  • Out of Asia theory of human origin

Oh, but when you consider the Truth© as revealed in God's Holy Word (the Holy Bible), you'll find information about the natural world that never changes!
  • Both man and woman possess the seed of life (Genesis 3:15) discovered by man in 17th century
  • Earth is held in place by invisible forces (Job 26:7) discovered by man in 1650
  • Blood is necessary for life (Leviticus 17:11) discovered by man in 19th century
  • Oceans have natural paths in them (Psalms 8:8) discovered by man in1854
  • Light is a particle and has mass (a photon) (Job 38:19) discovered by man in 1932
  • Stars give off signals (Job 38:7) discovered by man in 1945
  • Oceans contain fresh water springs (Job 38:16) discovered by man in 1920
  • Dust is important to survival (Isaiah 40:12) discovered by man in 1935
  • Hubert Spencer's scientific principles (Genesis 1) discovered by man in 1820
  • Air has weight (Job 28:25) discovered by man in the 16th century
  • Light can be split up into component colors (Job 38:24) discovered by man in 1650
  • Matter is made up of invisible particles (Romans 1:20) discovered by man in 20th century
  • Water cycle (Ecclesiastes 1:7) discovered by man in 17th century
  • Lightning and thunder are related (Job 38:25) discovered by man in 19th century

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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germunists - 10-21-2013, 03:35 AM

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You can't change a theory into a Law. It doesn't work that way, never has and never will.
Hello GodGodGod.

That is not true I learned in college that a scientific theory can become a scientific law for instance Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation started out as a theory but then it was proven and it became a law.

Newton was already dead when it was proven and so he could not celebrate but he would have been unhappy when the Einstein's Theory of Relativity superseded it so maybe it is better he is dead.

Thank you.

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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-21-2013, 09:05 PM

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i would like to know what you believe causes people to become sick.
the other thing i wanted to ask about is the immune system. maybe you dont think we have one? so i was thinking about things the immune system does besides kill bacteria and virus. the only thing i can think of is cancer cells. what do you guys think of cancer?

i'm not going to bother posting in the introduction thread because i'm done with this website. the more topics i read, the more i cant believe this. you guys are so far off from anything i've ever heard. i went to church every week for most of my life. (weekly for over 15 years) i went to Rhema for a few years. *terrorist website link removed*

i know i wont be changing anyone thoughts on any subject so i'm not going to bother. this will be my last post unless someone asks me a question.
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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-21-2013, 09:16 PM

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the other thing i wanted to ask about is the immune system. maybe you dont think we have one? so i was thinking about things the immune system does besides kill bacteria and virus. the only thing i can think of is cancer cells. what do you guys think of cancer?

i'm not going to bother posting in the introduction thread because i'm done with this website. the more topics i read, the more i cant believe this. you guys are so far off from anything i've ever heard. i went to church every week for most of my life. (weekly for over 15 years) i went to Rhema for a few years. *terrorist website link removed*

i know i wont be changing anyone thoughts on any subject so i'm not going to bother. this will be my last post unless someone asks me a question.
Dear friend, I do have a question for you. It is about your relationship with Christ, and your family's salvation.

Have you read the Bible, friend? Or do you just take the word of a pastor and speak to God as if you know Him already? How would it make you feel to see your own children burning in front of you for all eternity, crying out "Why did you lie to us, daddy?" Would that worsen your suffering, or would it just make you laugh?


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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-21-2013, 09:17 PM

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the other thing i wanted to ask about is the immune system. maybe you dont think we have one? so i was thinking about things the immune system does besides kill bacteria and virus. the only thing i can think of is cancer cells. what do you guys think of cancer?

i'm not going to bother posting in the introduction thread because i'm done with this website. the more topics i read, the more i cant believe this. you guys are so far off from anything i've ever heard. i went to church every week for most of my life. (weekly for over 15 years) i went to Rhema for a few years. http://www.rhema.org/

i know i wont be changing anyone thoughts on any subject so i'm not going to bother. this will be my last post unless someone asks me a question.
I'm confused. You ask a question, seemingly to gain information, but you refuse to participate? Do you realize we take time out of our very busy lives to share the Love of Jesus Christ. We are not some 1-800 infomercial resource trying to sell you something. We have nothing to gain personally, emotionally, or financially from your participation. I appreciate you're letting us know that essentially you do not respect our time, or the Redeemer about whom we are gathered to praise and offer witness. I don't have any questions for you. I pray the LORD will open your heart and you will learn to trust that He means what He says in the Holy Bible. Your suspicious about him bring me to tears, but I shall keep you in my prayers anyway.


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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-25-2013, 06:46 PM

Louis Pasteur was trying to find why wine spoiled and why it made people sick. He put a sample of spoiled wine under a strong microscope and saw tiny organisms in the wine. He tried many experiments. He eventually boiled the wine and found that it reduced the amount of these organisms greatly. He then gave the wine to other people and it didn't make them sick. There has also been further research into Germ Theory which have proved that germs exist. Get a strong microscope and look at spoiled wine under it. You'll see these organisms. If you're not prepared to do it, it just shows that you're too scared to be proven wrong.


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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 10-25-2013, 07:00 PM

I don't believe in microscopes.


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Default Re: $250,000,000 Challenge to Germ Theory Believers (Germunists) - 09-09-2015, 02:17 AM

The pure stupidity posted here burns. How do you explain how we were able to eradicate smallpox? If you took someone with small pox, pop one of the pustules, you'll get a viscous liquid filled with v. major, the virus that causes smallpox. Put it under a high powered microscope, probably need an electron microscope to get a good view of them, and you'll see all the tiny little viruses. You can then have smear that liquid on someone who has never sinned or has cleansed themselves of their sins and is completely clean, and they will get smallpox. Look at the arms of many people over 60 or 70 and you'll see small circular scars where they got a smallpox vaccination. Might I also add that it was a pastor who discovered the smallpox vaccine?
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The pure stupidity posted here burns. How do you explain how we were able to eradicate smallpox? If you took someone with small pox, pop one of the pustules, you'll get a viscous liquid filled with v. major, the virus that causes smallpox. Put it under a high powered microscope, probably need an electron microscope to get a good view of them, and you'll see all the tiny little viruses. You can then have smear that liquid on someone who has never sinned or has cleansed themselves of their sins and is completely clean, and they will get smallpox. Look at the arms of many people over 60 or 70 and you'll see small circular scars where they got a smallpox vaccination. Might I also add that it was a pastor who discovered the smallpox vaccine?
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The father of Edward Jenner, the smallpox heretic, was a vicar (NOT a True Christian™ pastor) but Edward himself an apprentice of secular surgeons since the age of 14. In addition, your justification of a vicar being a guarantee of good inventions is simply an appeal to authority, a fallacy. In fact, Jenner did not use variolation or liquid from an actual smallpox pustule but the more mild version, cowpox. Hence, vaccination and not variolation. He also did not have an electron microscope at his disposal. Please check your data, if your education is deficient. It is less embarassing that way.

We have to look at the evidence to see how this vaccination worked. What did it do to people? Well, they were worried because this mixes human essence with animal essence. I also urge you to look at the painting within this painting!



It is now easy to mock these God-fearing people for ignorance but they knew that there would be side-effects. It is said that all treatments have side-effects. That is True™. Prayer is also a valid treatment.

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And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of disease.

There IS a side-effect. You might be inoculated with Faith and get into Heaven. Jenner prevented that from happening. Billions are doomed because of this. Case closed.


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The pure stupidity posted here burns. How do you explain how we were able to eradicate smallpox? If you took someone with small pox, pop one of the pustules, you'll get a viscous liquid filled with v. major, the virus that causes smallpox. Put it under a high powered microscope, probably need an electron microscope to get a good view of them, and you'll see all the tiny little viruses. You can then have smear that liquid on someone who has never sinned or has cleansed themselves of their sins and is completely clean, and they will get smallpox. Look at the arms of many people over 60 or 70 and you'll see small circular scars where they got a smallpox vaccination. Might I also add that it was a pastor who discovered the smallpox vaccine?
Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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...You can then have smear that liquid on someone who has never sinned or has cleansed themselves of their sins and is completely clean, and they will get smallpox...
Nice try, but what you suggest is impossible. Other than Jesus, there is no one who has never sinned (Rom 3:23, I Jn 1:8), and people cannot cleanse themselves of their sins (Jn 14:6, I Jn 1:9).

Now, since Jesus has never sinned, then I suppose that if you could get Him to show up in person, prove that it's really Him, and sit still while you smear on Him whatever liquid you're talking about, and if He comes down with smallpox, then you will have made a step towards claiming your prize.

So, it looks like you have made a falsifiable claim after all whether you meant to or not, so get to work. Good luck.

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How do you explain how we were able to eradicate smallpox?
With prayer of course. Duh!


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So, it looks like you have made a falsifiable claim after all whether you meant to or not, so get to work. Good luck.
Except that if, as he claims here, smallpox has been eradicated

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How do you explain how we were able to eradicate smallpox?
then his excuse will be that he can't to get hold of any of this liquid gunk. I do hate it when people make unfalsifiable claims.

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Might I also add that it was a pastor who discovered the smallpox vaccine?
You might add that the moon is made of cheese if you like, it would be equally untrue. As Brother Elmer has already pointed out, Edward Jenner was not a pastor.


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The Bible teaches that disease is caused by demon possession or Godly punishment for wickedness. This is all that has ever been observed.
Demons are deceptive by design, divorced from nature and having to parasitise living creatures for sustenance. They'll masquerade as anything you fancy to get a toehold. Out in Africa living as an animist? No problem: they'll be 10,000 nature spirits just for you. Holding a séance? Bingo! Great-aunt Agatha. And in the petri dish mimicking whatever micro-organisms you've dreamed up is all in a day's work. When teaching The Truth brainwashing techniques are never necessary because Reality as described in The Bible is all around us and the most cursory observation proves Sunday School instruction every day.

I am posting a warning with the appended video clip but Pastors will notice how this poor deluded fool has demons up to the eyeballs. Inspired by some weirdo, this wretch exhibits many signs of demonic occupation.
1. EYEBALLS
Plenty of close-ups here and I hardly need elaborate. No Christian stares so blankly as this.

2. SQUALOR
Every nation ruled by demons houses its denizens in hovels, filth everywhere, just look at the joint.

3. TWITCHING
See those devils torment him.

4. FRANTIC PULLING
Face, hair, clothes, is there no escape?

5. DESPERATION
He just wants to be freed, he knows he never invited this outcome but there it is anyway. Satan knew that would happen when spoke sweet little lies through some biology teacher as a preamble to his even more odious assault on God: evolution. Without the "viruses" and "bacteria" there would no "primordial soup" to get the whole thing going. Honestly, who thinks this stuff up?

6. DELUSION
Thinks he's "the boss" just like a spiritualist medium but he's not. Satan is in control here. Many people think they control devils but when blitzed with herpes or polio or simian foamy disease—all caused by sin—they find out who's really in charge. Satan.

7. DEATH
Too late he realises. They're out to get him. They want to control him. They want to destroy him. They're trying to kill him.
Seven indicators of demon possession, all present. I hope this is helpful for parents when confronted by a microbe-obsessed demoniac whom you would like to refer on to The Pastoral Team for prayer, the only cure for all disease, or for exorcism as deemed appropriate.


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