[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Okay, please give me proof - that's not from your silly book called the bible - that disproves how the center of the earth is.

Ok, I suggest you read this thread: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=40617

BTW, you are the one rudely interrupting our discussion of MCR's noise and whether they should stand trail. Therefore, it is you that must provide evidence from the Bible.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

That's completely different. Being gay doesn't physically harm anyone.

AIDS doesn't physically harm anyone?

Marriages broken up by seductive homosexuals cause no damage?

And it's very racist of you to think of all Muslims like that. I have a few Muslim friends and they're very nice.

When did "Muslim" become a race?

Or are you one of those kids who has no idea what the word "racist" means?

And it's culture. It's their culture. I don't agree with it - I think it's wrong, but hey, there's nothing I can do about it. Again, though, being gay doesn't harm anyone. That does. Therefore a comparison between the two would be uneven.

Actually, the comparison is between things that lots of people believe are OK. Whether you think they cause harm or not is irrelevant.

You said lots of people think being a sodomite is OK, therefore it must be. I showed you that there are things that lots of people believe that you think aren't.

So, since Muslims don't have God's Law, they think honor raping an enemy's daughter is OK. Since you don't have God's Law, you think sex with little boys is OK. If both of you got right with Jesus, you'd realize your error.

[Mikey Anderson]

Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement

BTW, you are the one rudely interrupting our discussion of MCR's noise and whether they should stand trail. Therefore, it is you that must provide evidence from the Bible.

Oh! You know I originally came here to discuss this with you, but you decided to bring up my sexuality and religion.

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

AIDS doesn't physically harm anyone?

Marriages broken up by seductive homosexuals cause no damage?

I never said "cause no damage", I said "cause no harm". And okay, AIDS is different, though, because you already have to be gay to get it. Plus you just have you make you and your partner are clean before you have sex with them - pretty easy to prevent it. And you're anti-gay, so I suppose that's fine with you!

So, since Muslims don't have God's Law, they think honor raping an enemy's daughter is OK. Since you don't have God's Law, you think sex with little boys is OK. If both of you got right with Jesus, you'd realize your error.

Okay, but it's a choice to rape someone. So that can be an error. It's not a choice to be gay. I mean, you can choose to stay in the closet forever and live an unhappy life, but who would want that? Oh, and I don't have "sex with little boys". I have sex with my boyfriend, and he's older than me so um, yeah. But I do think sex with guys is okay. You think sex with your wife is okay, correct? Therefore, disregarding the fact that I'm not married, it's okay because I prefer men, as you prefer women.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

I never said "cause no damage", I said "cause no harm". And okay, AIDS is different, though, because you already have to be gay to get it. Plus you just have you make you and your partner are clean before you have sex with them - pretty easy to prevent it.

Really? How do you make sure, when God created the virus to take up to six months to be detected?

Do you just ask your partner if he's "dirty" or something? Do you think they will tell you the truth, knowing you are going to reject them as something filthy that you'd scrape off your shoe if they say "Yes, I'm a disease-ridden vial of human feces"?

Okay, but it's a choice to rape someone. So that can be an error. It's not a choice to be gay.

But it is a choice to have sex. Nobody is compelled to put his penis into another man's mouth or anus. Nobody.

And no, it is not OK. God says so. Neither is adultery, or working on the Sabbath.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Oh! You know I originally came here to discuss this with you, but you decided to bring up my sexuality and religion.

Apparently, your secular education has failed you because you obviouslt have problems reading. This is a True-Christian™ Forum where our Church Congregation can Fellowship amonst ourselves. You were not invited.

The sexuality crept in because they are gay and satanic producers of noise that homosexuals and emo attention whores are addicted to.

[rebecca.arthur]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

First off, homersexual? What is that? I'm homosexual, thank you very much.

And I'm pretty sure that there are plenty other people supporting gays. Some are even straight. Oh! Ohh! My Chemical Romance supports gays too! It's not "wrong". It's fine, I think. I'm perfectly happy, anyway.

It's funny when you people think it's a choice. It's not. Do you think I woke up one day and thought "Ooh, here's an idea! Let's not find girls attractive anymore! And now guys are cute and adorable!" because that's not how it works. I've never found girls attractive, always have been batting for the other team.(; But you're just too narrow-minded to even see from my point of view. So I don't care if you approve of me, honestly I don't. I have friends, I have my boyfriend Adam, I have my family. I got all I need.

Ahahahaha! Totally. My parents hate me.
No, but nice try. My parents completely and one hundred percent support me. Funny thing, my mom's actually a Christian? Yeah. I came out a while ago, nothing's changed - other then a few fist fights at school, haha, some kids aren't very fond of it. But um. Yeah.

^^^ Plus buttsecks is way better than het secks (;

Guys, I couldn't help but come back, cause I wanted to see what people have been saying. This will be my only comment, so don't bother saying lots of bible quotes to 'save' me cause I don't care.

Anywaay, I openly support gays, and I'm straight. In fact one of my friends is a lesbian, so what cha gonna do? I'm not gonna stop being friends with her.

As Mikey said, being gay isn't a choice, idiots. I'm not sure why it happens, genes maybe (do NOT tell me it's God's will or blahblah, idgaf).

Also, Mikey, if those kids give you trouble, just try ignore them, and don't lash out (not saying you started the fights by the way, just that you shouldn't let them get to you) Stand strong Killjoy!

I may not know him personally but if you all start giving him abuse on here because of his sexuality, I'll fudge you all up.

Bye bye.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by rebecca.arthur

As Mikey said, being gay isn't a choice, idiots.

Having sex, on the other hand, IS a choice.

And it is a choice that God says will be rewarded with unending torment in His Lake of Fire.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by rebecca.arthur

I may not know him personally but if you all start giving him abuse on here because of his sexuality, I'll fudge you all up.

Bye bye.

Oh no, no egocentric, and imaginary audience detected there.

As Mikey said, being gay isn't a choice, idiots. I'm not sure why it happens

Therefore, it is a choice of sodomy and an addiction of the stimulation of the prostate, and rectal demons.

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by rebecca.arthur

In fact one of my friends is a lesbian, so what cha gonna do? I'm not gonna stop being friends with her.

I you truly were her friend, you would do everything you can to save her from eternal torments of hell as gaysexuals will end up in hell. You are a horrible friend if you just watch by and accept her God mocking ways that will send her to such a terrible fate.

[Mikey Anderson]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Really? How do you make sure, when God created the virus to take up to six months to be detected?

Um no, god didn't create the virus at all. You get AIDS from HIV, and you usually know when you have HIV.

Do you just ask your partner if he's "dirty" or something? Do you think they will tell you the truth, knowing you are going to reject them as something filthy that you'd scrape off your shoe if they say "Yes, I'm a disease-ridden vial of human feces"?

The only person I have sex with is my boyfriend, and I love him (or at least I feel very strongly about him) and I'm sure he loves me too. We've both been tested and we've both come back knowing we're clean. And even if they're not clean, you can have protected sex.

But it is a choice to have sex. Nobody is compelled to put his penis into another man's mouth or anus. Nobody.

Are you compelled to have sex with your wife? No, but you do it anyway, because you enjoy it. I wouldn't enjoy it with a women. So I do it with men. [Gawd, why did this conversation have to turn so awkward...]

And no, it is not OK. God says so. Neither is adultery, or working on the Sabbath.

Okay, I don't care what you, or god, says. How many times do I have to say that before if registers in your brain?

[QUOTE=rebecca.arthur;917859]Also, Mikey, if those kids give you trouble, just try ignore them, and don't lash out (not saying you started the fights by the way, just that you shouldn't let them get to you) Stand strong Killjoy!

I may not know him personally but if you all start giving him abuse on here because of his sexuality, I'll fudge you all up.[QUOTE]

Thank you. You're probably the most decent person on this forum. (:

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Having sex, on the other hand, IS a choice.

And it is a choice that God says will be rewarded with unending torment in His Lake of Fire.

Yeah, you're right. It is a choice. And if spending eternity in hell is what it takes for me to be happy while I'm living, then I'll take it. I don't care. As long as you're not there.

Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement

Therefore, it is a choice of sodomy and an addiction of the stimulation of the prostate, and rectal demons.

An addiction of the stimulation of the prostate? No, you're just jealous that we get the pleasure of it and you don't. ;D I could live without it, but I don't want to.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by rebecca.arthur

being gay isn't a choice

I may not know him personally but if you all start giving him abuse on here because of his sexuality, I'll fudge you all up.

Bye bye.

Why are you defending pedophiles from the scathing Light of Jesus? Don't you have any moral compass whatsoever?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Um no, god didn't create the virus at all. You get AIDS from HIV, and you usually know when you have HIV.

Wrong again, nancyboy. If you open your Bible to the Book of Ezekiel, you will see that when really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you. And we give Praise to Him for it!

Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:

14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:

14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:

14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

[Mikey Anderson]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

Why are you defending pedophiles from the scathing Light of Jesus? Don't you have any moral compass whatsoever?

She's not defending pedophiles, she's defending homosexuals like myself. The one with morals is the one who doesn't judge someone based on who they're attracted to. Homosexual doesn't mean pedophile. Plus, I'm 16 and I'm gay so technically I couldn't be a pedophile if I tried.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

An addiction of the stimulation of the prostate? No, you're just jealous that we get the pleasure of it and you don't. ;D I could live without it, but I don't want to.

Friend, you have just admitted that it is indeed a choice, and that you could date women but you CHOOSE to take things in a rectal direction.

The Bible says that you are not worthy of the breath you breathe.

Leviticus
20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Nevertheless, this is a confirmation that Jesus is comming soon, and come he shall!

2 Timothy
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Which explains why silly women are attempting to defend homersexurality.

Amen! Come Lord Jesus!

[Mikey Anderson]

Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement

Friend, you have just admitted that it is indeed a choice, and that you could date women but you CHOOSE to take things in a rectal direction.

No, it's a choice to have sex with other men. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Sure, I could date women. Would I be truly happy? No. Would I be attracted to them at all? No. Would I want to have sexual intercourse with them? No.

The Bible says that you are not worthy of the breath you breathe.

Everyone deserves to breathe are and live. Everyone is worth something. You know why? Because if a gay person died, and their organs were still functional, it wouldn't matter if they were gay, the organs could be sold. ;D I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

That's not what the Holy Word of God says. Wicked people are wicked from birth -- God made them that way. They tell lies immediately after birth before they can even talk. You really should read the Bible instead of listening to that satanic music.

Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

No, it's a choice to have sex with other men. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Sure, I could date women. Would I be truly happy? No. Would I be attracted to them at all? No. Would I want to have sexual intercourse with them? No.

That is because you are addicted to prostate stimulation, friend. And you are making the choice and lying to yourself.

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Everyone deserves to breathe are and live. Everyone is worth something. You know why? Because if a gay person died, and their organs were still functional, it wouldn't matter if they were gay, the organs could be sold. ;D I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

That ain't what the Bible says. Shall I repeat it? Yes, I will because I do not think that you read it.

Leviticus
20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[Mikey Anderson]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

That's not what the Holy Word of God says. Wicked people are wicked from birth -- God made them that way. They tell lies immediately after birth before they can even talk. You really should read the Bible instead of listening to that satanic music.

Oh my god. Well first of all, they're not satanic. They have a song called "Heaven Help Us" (ooh so satanic) and a song called "Interlude" and the lyrics consist of 14 very religious words.

Why would god make someone wicked, and make them tell lies, if he knows that it'd result in them going to hell? Wow. Smart guy.

And maybe I like listening to my "satanic" music. Seriously, they're not even screamo (though I enjoy screamo as well). And their last album, Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, is not satanic or even heavy metal. It's more pop-punk than anything. So, yeah. And I don't even wanna read the bible, so I think I'll continue listening to my music.

Originally Posted by Rev. Edward Clement

That is because you are addicted to prostate stimulation, friend. And you are making the choice and lying to yourself.

Okay, I'll let you keep on pretending I'm lying to myself. I know I'm not. I am most certainly not attracted to women. I mean sure, they can be beautiful, but it doesn't "turn me on" like men do. The human anatomy can't lie (; The only two things I'm addicted to is music and the internet.

That ain't what the Bible says. Shall I repeat it? Yes, I will because I do not think that you read it.

I do not care what the bible says and I'm almost positive no other homosexuals in the world do either. Thanks.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Um no, god didn't create the virus at all. You get AIDS from HIV, and you usually know when you have HIV.

If you're going to be a sodomite, you really need to learn the basics. How old are you, 15?

http://hivtest.cdc.gov/faq.aspx#exposure

How long after a possible exposure should I wait to get tested for HIV?

Most HIV tests are antibody tests that measure the antibodies your body makes against HIV. It can take some time for the immune system to produce enough antibodies for the antibody test to detect and this time period can vary from person to person. This time period is commonly referred to as the “window period”. Most people will develop detectable antibodies within 2 to 8 weeks (the average is 25 days). Even so, there is a chance that some individuals will take longer to develop detectable antibodies. Therefore, if the initial negative HIV test was conducted within the first 3 months after possible exposure, repeat testing should be considered >3 months after the exposure occurred to account for the possibility of a false-negative result. Ninety seven percent will develop antibodies in the first 3 months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV.

So no, you don't "just know you have HIV". Some get very ill when first infected, others have no symptoms whatsoever until they've been infected for many years. By then, they've shared it with spouses, friends, and random strangers through glory holes.

The only person I have sex with is my boyfriend, and I love him (or at least I feel very strongly about him) and I'm sure he loves me too. We've both been tested and we've both come back knowing we're clean. And even if they're not clean, you can have protected sex.

Yes, and he'd never play around. Because people don't do that. Especially men.

Alfred Kinsey found in his studies that 50% of males and 26% of females had extramarital sex at least once during their lifetime.[20]

Do you tell your HIV+ friends that they're unclean? Like lepers? After all, if you're "clean", they must be "unclean". How do they react when you demand that they wear a white robe and a bell and yell "Unclean" as they walk down the street?

Are you compelled to have sex with your wife? No, but you do it anyway, because you enjoy it.

I don't have a wife, and sex is for procreation, not recreation.

Okay, I don't care what you, or god, says. How many times do I have to say that before if registers in your brain?

This is a Christian church's discussion forum. If you don't want to hear a Christian perspective, piss off.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by Mikey Anderson

Okay, I'll let you keep on pretending I'm lying to myself. I know I'm not. I am most certainly not attracted to women. I mean sure, they can be beautiful, but it doesn't "turn me on" like men do. The human anatomy can't lie (; The only two things I'm addicted to is music and the internet.

Friend, you have said alot. By saying that "some women are beautiful" you have revealed the God Given Attraction© to the opposite sex that in fact reveals that aou are attracted to women.

Be honest, men do not turn you on, the temptation to sin turns you on, and makes you want to do it. That is the sinful nature of the flesh.

Thus, you have chosen to to commit an abomination against the Lord which ulitimately leads to beastiality and then to an aquied taste for French cheese.

You have already fallen into an affinity for bad taste in noise, friend.

Friend, this should not be so.

James
1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.