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Default What sword should I buy? - 07-03-2017, 02:34 PM

Most of you give pay homage to guns in evident contradiction with the holy word:


Ephesians 6:17
And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Exodus 17:13
So Joshua overwhelmed Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.

Samuel 15:33
But Samuel said, "As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women." And Samuel hewed Agag to pieces before the LORD at Gilgal.

What is the biblical sword should I purchase to be a good christian or how you call it True Christian?

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Default Re: What sword should I buy? - 07-03-2017, 03:36 PM

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Most of you give pay homage to guns in evident contradiction with the holy word:


Ephesians 6:17
And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Exodus 17:13
So Joshua overwhelmed Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.

Samuel 15:33
But Samuel said, "As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women." And Samuel hewed Agag to pieces before the LORD at Gilgal.

What is the biblical sword should I purchase to be a good christian or how you call it True Christian?

Thanks.
Nowhere in the Bible are we warned against or forbidden the use of guns. The verses that you posted don't even hint at such a concept and including them is shoddy workmanship if you are trying to construct an argument.


If you really do want an answer, the "sword" that you need for your protection is Jesus and such a sword cannot be bought. It is a gift from God to sinful humanity. If you read the New Testament, you will see its main theme is that Jesus bought and paid for humanity's sins through His Blood. This doesn't mean that all of humanity is forgiven, though. You have to accept the gift by admitting your utter worthlessness before The Lord and asking for Jesus's Blood to wash you clean. Then you have to "go and sin no more". John 8:11


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Default Re: What sword should I buy? - 07-03-2017, 03:42 PM

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Nowhere in the Bible are we warned against or forbidden the use of guns. The verses that you posted don't even hint at such a concept and including them is shoddy workmanship if you are trying to construct an argument.


If you really do want an answer, the "sword" that you need for your protection is Jesus and such a sword cannot be bought. It is a gift from God to sinful humanity. If you read the New Testament, you will see its main theme is that Jesus bought and paid for humanity's sins through His Blood. This doesn't mean that all of humanity is forgiven, though. You have to accept the gift by admitting your utter worthlessness before The Lord and asking for Jesus's Blood to wash you clean. Then you have to "go and sin no more". John 8:11
That is an interpretation dear. Besides, under your argument would be right to have sex with children (married with a 5 years old girl) because the bible in no part say something against it.
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Default Re: What sword should I buy? - 07-03-2017, 04:01 PM

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That is an interpretation dear. Besides, under your argument would be right to have sex with children (married with a 5 years old girl) because the bible in no part say something against it.
No dear, she's correct. If you read the Bible as a Whole, the context is clear. Salvation can neither be bought nor sold (how could it be?), so your question is moot.

In reference to your second Scripture, which is rightfully quoted as thus:
And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.
Exodus 17:13
This is a historical event the Bible shares for our righteousness. It is not an open command to discomfit the Amalek today, unless you are that selfsame Joshua who, under Yahweh's personal command, led battle after battle to erase from the face of the earth those free-loaders who had pre-squatted the land of milk and honey from the Israelites.

And the third, which is taken from First Samuel, by the way,
And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.
1 Samuel 15:33
Another historical event retold for the righteousness of man. This should not be understood to imply you are to randomly slay people with a sword. Because your interpretation suggests a delusional belief, an anti-social and possibly psychopathic one at that, the Department of Faith has no doubt by now contacted your local policía and are working together to determine your threat level in your area.

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What is the biblical sword should I purchase to be a good christian or how you call it True Christian?
I would encourage you to purchase a King James Version Holy Bible and read it cover to cover, not pick and choose tidbits of Scripture through an impulsive Google search.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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That is an interpretation dear. Besides, under your argument would be right to have sex with children (married with a 5 years old girl) because the bible in no part say something against it.
The Bible does, in fact, sometimes indirectly address the suitable betrothal age for women. We must remember the uplifting story of Isaac and Rebecca. We know quite a lot about them based on the Bible, but sometimes the Bible also gives us a reference that we can follow. This is exceptional and, obviously, not quite as reliable as the Real Thing (i.e., the Bible), but much more reliable than any observational science. The Book that the Bible cites sometimes is the Book of Jasher.

Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in
the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.


While the Real Bible is not too detailed regarding the marriage of Isaac, we know that he took Rebekah (or Rebecca) and penetrated her as every decent husband who tolerates the command of multiplying (Genesis 1:28) does despite the repulsive nature of the marital act.

Genesis 24:67
And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and
took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.


OK. Now, what about Rebecca's age!? Here we must refer to Jasher, but that is acceptable as the Bible accepts it as a reliable source of history.

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Jasher 24: 39-41
And they all blessed the Lord who brought this about, and they gave him, Rebecca, the daughter of Bethuel, for a wife for Isaac.
40. And the young woman was of very comely appearance, she was a virgin, and
Rebecca was ten years old in those days.
41. And Bethuel and Laban and his children made a feast on that night, and Eliezer and his men came and ate and drank and rejoiced there on that night.
And there's more.

Jasher 24: 44-15.
44. And Isaac took Rebecca and she became his wife, and he brought her into the tent.
45. And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca, the daughter of his uncle Bethuel, for a wife.


Not < five, but ten! Problem solved! A suitable age to marry and start begetting! But there is more. The matters of the Jews are obscure and sometimes the Jews themselves know best what they did in the ancient times. In Medieval times, the Rabbis calculated that she would have been three years of age when she married Isaac (and they did consummate the marriage, as Genesis 24:67 proves beyond any doubt whatsoever)!
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1. Sarah gave birth to Isaac at the age of 90 (Genesis 17).
2. Sarah died at the age of 127 (Genesis 23:1-3)
3.The incident on Mount Moria (Genesis 22) and the birth of Rebecca happened at the same time, when Isaac was 36 (or 37) years old, same time when Sarah died (Genesis 23:1-3).
4. The verses all looked together tells us that Isaac was 37-years-old when Rebecca was born.

This fact that Isaac was sacrificed in his 30s is well attested by nearly all ancient sources and Rabbis.
Isaac was 37 when Rebecca was born and 40 when he took her in that tent. That means that Rebecca was 3. Because of the Jasher connection, less certain than Balaam's donkey (Numbers 22:28) but much more certain than the existence of the planet Neptune. That was then, this is now. We obey the secular law of the land (Romans 13:1-2) and wait for Jesus to dismantle this Earth that has forgotten the Fear of God (Ecclesiastes 12:13) and many other proud Biblical traditions.




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Default Re: What sword should I buy? - 07-03-2017, 04:50 PM

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The Bible does, in fact, sometimes indirectly address the suitable betrothal age for women. We must remember the uplifting story of Isaac and Rebecca. We know quite a lot about them based on the Bible, but sometimes the Bible also gives us a reference that we can follow. This is exceptional and, obviously, not quite as reliable as the Real Thing (i.e., the Bible), but much more reliable than any observational science. The Book that the Bible cites sometimes is the Book of Jasher.

Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in
the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.


While the Real Bible is not too detailed regarding the marriage of Isaac, we know that he took Rebekah (or Rebecca) and penetrated her as every decent husband who tolerates the command of multiplying (Genesis 1:28) does despite the repulsive nature of the marital act.

Genesis 24:67
And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and
took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.


OK. Now, what about Rebecca's age!? Here we must refer to Jasher, but that is acceptable as the Bible accepts it as a reliable source of history.

WARNING! APOCRYPHA AHEAD! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Jasher 24: 39-41
And they all blessed the Lord who brought this about, and they gave him, Rebecca, the daughter of Bethuel, for a wife for Isaac.
40. And the young woman was of very comely appearance, she was a virgin, and
Rebecca was ten years old in those days.
41. And Bethuel and Laban and his children made a feast on that night, and Eliezer and his men came and ate and drank and rejoiced there on that night.
And there's more.

Jasher 24: 44-15.
44. And Isaac took Rebecca and she became his wife, and he brought her into the tent.
45. And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca, the daughter of his uncle Bethuel, for a wife.


Not < five, but ten! Problem solved! A suitable age to marry and start begetting! But there is more. The matters of the Jews are obscure and sometimes the Jews themselves know best what they did in the ancient times. In Medieval times, the Rabbis calculated that she would have been three years of age when she married Isaac (and they did consummate the marriage, as Genesis 24:67 proves beyond any doubt whatsoever)!
Isaac was 37 when Rebecca was born and 40 when he took her in that tent. That means that Rebecca was 3. Because of the Jasher connection, less certain than Balaam's donkey (Numbers 22:28) but much more certain than the existence of the planet Neptune. That was then, this is now. We obey the secular law of the land (Romans 13:1-2) and wait for Jesus to dismantle this Earth that has forgotten the Fear of God (Ecclesiastes 12:13) and many other proud Biblical traditions.




Yours in Christ,

Elmer
Thank you Dr. Elmer for your scholarly answer.

In conclusion, a man can marry a three years old kid?
Is not this abominable?
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Thank you Dr. Elmer for your scholarly answer.

In conclusion, a man can marry a three years old kid?
Is not this abominable?
Of course he can't! It's illegal! Are you nuts!?

1 Peter 2:13-14
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.


God was in control during the era of the Patriarchs. Now the secular powers are in control. We submit to them but dream of the day when Jesus finally gives the secularists some proper punishment by simply making a third of them perish (Revelation 9:18)!



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Thank you Dr. Elmer for your scholarly answer.

In conclusion, a man can marry a three years old kid?
Is not this abominable?
Who are you? Yoda?


What the Bible drives home again and again is that females need to be virgins when they marry and men need to beget heirs with them. If a young woman is menstruating, then she is old enough to marry.


This is a norm in all sorts of societies. Once a girl starts her menses, she has an entirely different status in her community. She is no longer a child and has to be watched and guarded because any self-respecting manly male wants to make sure the boy inheriting his property is actually of his blood.


Women are both sneaky and stupid (Eve was not talking with the serpent in front of Adam) and anytime they spread their legs without parental approval, problems result.


Touching on Brother Doctor Professor White's mention of secular law, in most states, a girl can marry as young as 12 or 13 WITH parental approval. Now, some young women do not begin their menses until 14 or 15. If the parents want grandchildren, and since marriage exists to populate the planet, it would make sense for parents of not-yet-fertile daughters to refrain from signing on the dotted line until the young woman's ovaries kick in.


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