[WWJDnow]

Originally Posted by Rudolf Cooper

It's not an assuption, find a natural object that is a perfect flat disc, didn't find? Too bad, what about globes and cristal structures?

Are you saying that a globe is a perfectly flat disk?

[miss Pauletta]

Hahahaha! Everyone I know has bought into the lie that the Earth is round. I always just shake my head and ask, "Oh, well that's interesting, so tell me, when have you looked upon the Earth from a location outside the Earth?" (I ask this question with far less attitude if the person I'm speaking with isn't a younger black female.) NONE of them have. They all take the Satan-influenced scientists' word for it, which makes me sick.

When did we as humans fall so far from God that we became willing to believe scientists' lies over His Holy Book which clearly says that this Earth has four corners (New Testament and everything, for you cherry-pickers)?

[xcalibur1]

pardon my absence, I've been busy these days.

Originally Posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson

Your "scholars" completely ignored

Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 96:10 Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

David describes the flat earth and foundations of the earth when God shoots fire and lightning down from the sky and comes down riding a Cherub.

2 Samuel 22:7 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears.
8Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.

Only God can move the Earth.

9There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
10He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.
11And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.
12And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.
13Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.
14The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

The sun rotates around the earth.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

I'd like to caution you that Psalms are meant as songs and poetry, thus they'll often have metaphors and figures-of-speech.

as far as the foundations of heaven and earth, and the pillars of the earth, this could be taken different ways.

If you want to believe that the Earth is flat, I admire your steadfastness, but I don't think you have to follow this idea to be in accordance with the Bible.

[Frayling0]

Originally Posted by xcalibur1

pardon my absence, I've been busy these days.



I'd like to caution you that Psalms are meant as songs and poetry, thus they'll often have metaphors and figures-of-speech.

as far as the foundations of heaven and earth, and the pillars of the earth, this could be taken different ways.

If you want to believe that the Earth is flat, I admire your steadfastness, but I don't think you have to follow this idea to be in accordance with the Bible.

Completely agree. It's ridiculous to take it directly as truth. Have you ever stood on a beach? If you look at the horizon, it's round. That's because the Earth is ALSO round. Considering we can see other planets in the sky, which are clearly ROUND, can we not also assume the Earth is round? My grandfather did some work for NASA, he has seen aerial photography from space. Are you saying that he and over half of the world are liars? Besides, what pain does the world being round cause you? Your ancient, ignorant belief are just ridiculous, and every Christian I know does not demand belief the earth is a flat pancake. The fact you are even prepared to argue this is just ridiculous, and shows just how ignorant you are.

Tell me this: Why and for what reason would scientists LIE to you about the Earth being a certain shape? What's in it for them? Also, how is the Bible scientific proof? I could write a book right now, full of lies, and create a "religion". That doesn't make any of it true.

I am NOT trying to get at you, before I get yet another infraction. I completely respect the fact you're Christians, that you have a passionate belief, and that you follow the Bible so closely (I'll even admit it's quite admirable in this day and age, and many of the values in the Bible are fantastic for society), but you have to stop this lunacy.

[Mrs. Rogers]

Originally Posted by Frayling0

My grandfather did some work for NASA, he has seen aerial photography from space.

My dear, I am deeply saddened to hear that your grandfather blinded you with science, and hit you with technology. You would have been better served by him bopping you over the head with the Bible.

[Frayling0]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term 'bopping'. Is it an Americanism?

Oh, and thanks for ignoring just about every salient point in my post, just to say that. That's ignorance for you. Why did I even bother defending you?

[miss Pauletta]

Originally Posted by Frayling0

Completely agree. It's ridiculous to take it directly as truth. Have you ever stood on a beach? If you look at the horizon, it's round. That's because the Earth is ALSO round. Considering we can see other planets in the sky, which are clearly ROUND, can we not also assume the Earth is round? My grandfather did some work for NASA, he has seen aerial photography from space. Are you saying that he and over half of the world are liars? Besides, what pain does the world being round cause you? Your ancient, ignorant belief are just ridiculous, and every Christian I know does not demand belief the earth is a flat pancake. The fact you are even prepared to argue this is just ridiculous, and shows just how ignorant you are.

Tell me this: Why and for what reason would scientists LIE to you about the Earth being a certain shape? What's in it for them? Also, how is the Bible scientific proof? I could write a book right now, full of lies, and create a "religion". That doesn't make any of it true.

It's clear to any True Christian™ that the entire scientific community has one goal at its forefront: defy God and His word at every turn possible.

The Bible says the Earth has four corners, science says the Earth is round. The Bible says humans were created, science says that we evolved from pond slime. The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination, science says that it is inborn and immutable. Do you see the problem here?

[Frayling0]

Originally Posted by yessamassa

It's clear to any True Christian™ that the entire scientific community has one goal at its forefront: defy God and His word at every turn possible.

The Bible says the Earth has four corners, science says the Earth is round. The Bible says humans were created, science says that we evolved from pond slime. The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination, science says that it is inborn and immutable. Do you see the problem here?

Get real. You can't say for definite that the Bible means four corners in a literal sense. You don't know how ridiculous it is to believe the world is a pancake. The world is round, and the very visible proof of that are the seasons. Seasons that would not come if the world was flat.

I see the problem. The problem is that you are obsessed with an ancient book, and refuse to move away from that. I also noticed your skin colour from your avatar. I wonder what you think about the terms used on this forum for African's: sand nigras, and Jigaboos?

[Cursed]

Originally Posted by Frayling0

Completely agree. It's ridiculous to take it directly as truth. Have you ever stood on a beach? If you look at the horizon, it's round. That's because the Earth is ALSO round.

The horizon doesn't look round to me when I stand on a beach; there is something wrong with your eyes. Maybe they are too far apart on your head? I'm not a doctor.

Considering we can see other planets in the sky, which are clearly ROUND, can we not also assume the Earth is round?

Round and flat!

My grandfather did some work for NASA, he has seen aerial photography from space. Are you saying that he and over half of the world are liars?

I'll go beyond that, and say your grandfather was a liar along with 99% of the world!

The world is owned by Satan. It's his domain (Job 1:7, 1 Peter 5:8, etc.) to do with what he wills.

He's come up with quite the web of lies in a few thousand years; he is an unparalleled master of deceit. Only a few sacred people can cut through his wall of deception; these people are called True Christians!

Besides, what pain does the world being round cause you?

Speaking for myself, it doesn't cause me any pain. I don't care if all of the nonbelievers go to Hell, I kind of like it.

You need breathing room in Heaven, or it's not Heaven. People in general are jerks! They hang up when it's a wrong number instead of saying sorry, pee all over the floor instead of in the toilet bowl, and take your stapler right off of your desk!

Little things like that would make Heaven intolerable. All of those people need to burn in Hell; all of those people believe the world is a globe. Fine with me. Praise God!

Your ancient, ignorant belief are just ridiculous, and every Christian I know does not demand belief the earth is a flat pancake.

Those Christians are false Christians, and they will burn alongside you, hypocrites! At least you are openly satanic and reject the Word, they are the worst of deceivers. They don't follow the Bible at all, yet the whole world takes their word for it. They should be rebuked and stoned right on the street, there is no justice in America! The SECOND secular law collapses, I am going berserk for GOD, let me tell you!

The fact you are even prepared to argue this is just ridiculous, and shows just how ignorant you are.

It's not Landover Baptists you are calling ignorant, sir. It's the Word of the Lord God.

Shame on you.

Tell me this: Why and for what reason would scientists LIE to you about the Earth being a certain shape? What's in it for them?

All of the earth is ruled by Lucifer, that's why. The reason scientists would lie is that they are deceived by the Great Dragon OR they are demon possessed.

It's all very simple.

Also, how is the Bible scientific proof? I could write a book right now, full of lies, and create a "religion". That doesn't make any of it true.

The Bible is proof because the LORD GOD says so.

Sure, you could write a book right now full of lies and create a "religion." It would be yet another false religion (like mormonism, scientology, islam, etc.) because it wasn't created by GOD.

I am NOT trying to get at you, before I get yet another infraction. I completely respect the fact you're Christians, that you have a passionate belief, and that you follow the Bible so closely (I'll even admit it's quite admirable in this day and age, and many of the values in the Bible are fantastic for society), but you have to stop this lunacy.

It appears like lunacy to you because you, sir, are a lunatic! You are looking at us through secular eyes, clouded by propaganda and machiavellian machinations forged over the centuries by the Lord of Lies!

How many times does the government and science have to lie to you before you open your eyes? Does God have any plans for you other than Hell fire? I feel sorry for you people sometimes.

[Godsgrace]

Originally Posted by Frayling0

Get real. You can't say for definite that the Bible means four corners in a literal sense.

Um... when you read Revelation 7:1, where, exactly, did you think those angels were standing??

Originally Posted by Frayling0

I wonder what you think about the terms used on this forum for African's: sand nigras, and Jigaboos?

Whats the problem? Those would be colloquial expressions of people of the duskier races; Negros...

You don't know much, do you?

Get right with God, sinner...

[praiser]

I think the earth is flat but... I have a problemd what is Earth's shape, is it a disc or something else? :

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

according to this sentence earth has corner, witch would mean earts is NOT a disc since a disc doesn't have any corner, but is a parallelogram.

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;

Here it is said that the earth is a circle...So, how can earth be simultaneously a circle and a parallelogram?
There is surely a problem about my interpretation of these sentences but I'd like to know what do christian scientists think about this?
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[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by praiser

I think the earth is flat but... I have a problemd what is Earth's shape, is it a disc or something else? :

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

according to this sentence earth has corner, witch would mean earts is NOT a disc since a disc doesn't have any corner, but is a parallelogram.

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;

Here it is said that the earth is a circle...So, how can earth be simultaneously a circle and a parallelogram?
There is surely a problem about my interpretation of these sentences but I'd like to know what do christian scientists think about this?
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The corners of the Earth are the four tallest mountains, like the one where the Devil took Jesus to tempt him.

Matthew 4:8 (King James Version) 8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

[Youth Minister Harry]

Originally Posted by praiser

I think the earth is flat but... I have a problemd what is Earth's shape, is it a disc or something else? :

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

according to this sentence earth has corner, witch would mean earts is NOT a disc since a disc doesn't have any corner, but is a parallelogram.

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;

Here it is said that the earth is a circle...So, how can earth be simultaneously a circle and a parallelogram?
There is surely a problem about my interpretation of these sentences but I'd like to know what do christian scientists think about this?
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My dear confused brother, the "circle of the earth" refers to the tent over the earth, what sickular ScIeNtists refer to as the 'atmosphere'. Remember to stick to the KJV 1611 to avoid confusion.

Isaiah 40:22 - "It is he that sitteth vpon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grashoppers; that stretcheth out the heauens as a curtaine, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwel in"

Let's break that down for you part by part:

-It is he that sitteth vpon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grashoppers; -When sitting on the circle of the earth (the top of the sky tent), the inhabitants (people) look like little ole grasshoppers.
-that stretcheth out the heauens as a curtaine, -The circle of the earth stretches out the heavens like a big ole fluttery curtain.
-and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwel in -The circle of the earth stretches out those big ole fluttery curtains just like a big ole home-made tent to dwell in (so no matter what, God's already put a big ole roof over your head!).

Hope that helps! Hosanna In The Highest!

Yours In The Big Ole Blood River Of Jesus Christ's Salvation,
Harry Lester

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by praiser

I think the earth is flat but... I have a problemd what is Earth's shape, is it a disc or something else? :

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

according to this sentence earth has corner, witch would mean earts is NOT a disc since a disc doesn't have any corner, but is a parallelogram.

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;

Here it is said that the earth is a circle...So, how can earth be simultaneously a circle and a parallelogram?
There is surely a problem about my interpretation of these sentences but I'd like to know what do christian scientists think about this?
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I think the following diagram should set this confusion straight...

[Blitzco]

These scientific experiments are a bit too close to witchcraft for my liking - it would make me feel uncomfortable testing the bible in this way. I do not need to think for myself - I have the bible.

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by Blitzco

These scientific experiments are a bit too close to witchcraft for my liking - it would make me feel uncomfortable testing the bible in this way. I do not need to think for myself - I have the bible.

It seems to me that you're quite familiar with witchcraft. Could it be that you're just some wicked heathen pretending to be a Christian? You'd not be the first blasphemer to come wandering into our Godly forum just to insult our beliefs. Why do you hate Jesus so much?

[Youth Minister Harry]

Originally Posted by Blitzco

These scientific experiments are a bit too close to witchcraft for my liking - it would make me feel uncomfortable testing the bible in this way. I do not need to think for myself - I have the bible.

To avoid an abrupt end to your salvation process, please visit the introductions section and post an introduction. We'd love to know more about you and your sons!

Inquiring Through The Blood Of Infant Jesus,
Harry Lester

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Blitzco

These scientific experiments are a bit too close to witchcraft for my liking - it would make me feel uncomfortable testing the bible in this way. I do not need to think for myself - I have the bible.

Friend,

God gives us a brain for a reason. So we can think. A TRUE Christian™ listens to his reason since that reason comes from God. It's the secularists who just go by some book - Origin of the Species aka The Darwinist Bible of Child Murder and Gay Ass Sex and refuse to consider anything else.

[Stuart_John_Woods]

Originally Posted by Brother Alex

Jeremiah 16:19:
O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

According to Jeremiah 16:19, the earth has ends. There is no way a spherical earth could have ends, and therefore the earth must be flat. The Book of Revelation tells a similar story:

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

What Isaiah actually describes here is as follows (note: this is a link to a video where a True Christian Scientist™ debunks a false Christian interpretation of this passage):

My attention was drawn to this by a number of non-Christian colleagues of mine. They know that I am a Christian and presented this to me as apparent evidence that my fellow Christians are clearly insane.

I have never been concerned about the possibility that the findings of Christopher Columbus might have been wrong. What concerns me is that the country discovered by Christopher Columbus seems to have become convinced that it doesn't exist. I've met many Americans during my travels around the world and I have neve questioned that the new world exists.

I can assure you that the discovery of the New World was not a conspiracy. The Americas really do exist! My answer to people who don't want to believe that their world is round is to try flying aroud it a few times!

After their historic circumlunar flight, the crew of Apollo eight were sued by an atheist for "The mixing of church and state". During a televison transmission made during Christmas 1968, they read aloud verses from the creation story, whilst transmitting images of the earth as seen from Lunar orbit. They were so enthralled by the "jewel of Earth hung in the blackness of space" that they felt the need to speak about what was in their hearts to the people of the Earth. May Apollo astronauts commented that they believed that giving the world the chance to see the Earth from another world was far more important than exploring the Moon. One astronaut commented: "we went to the Moon, but the greatest thing we discovered was the Earth".

Maps made during ancient times described the "four corners of the Earth" because they were drawn on a two dimensional piece of paper. There is nothing threatening about the Bible (especially the New Testament Bible) describing the world in terms of the Romanised world that existed at the time. New continents, such as America, had not been discovered at the time and are therefore not mentioned. The explored world at the time the bible was written was much smaller than the world we know now. Don't be alarmed if the bible describes the know wold in such terms!

The idea that the world might actually be round was first theorised by the ancient Greeks. A major step forward in this area came from the astronomer Galilleo, who was the first to study the rings of Sarturn through his early telescopes. He risked being labeled a heretic by presenting his findings about the movememts of "wandering stars" to the Pope. He was able to correctly establish that the Earth and her companion "wandering stars" (planets) orbit the Sun.

Galilleo would have been burned as a heretic had he presented his ideas during the medieval era. Thankfully, he was born during the renaissance era, a time when human society was finally emerging from its' long dark age after the demise of the christianised Roman Empire. During the renaissance era, many of the current ideas of nonconformist Christianinty appeared. These included the idea of an ordered universe, governed by laws.

Fundamentalist movements, which deny the existance of the world, are relatively new in history. To those of us who live in Europe, the discovery of America proved that the world was round. I have no idea how to prove to an American that America exists, they should know better than I do!

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by Stuart_John_Woods

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