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Lightbulb Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 02:31 AM

Well, school's just around the corner and that means millions of Christian students in our country are going to be taking atheist propoganda indoctrination courses a.k.a science classes. Unfortunately, many Christian kids buy into the lies their atheist teachers tell them and start to question their faith. Instead of questioning the reality of seven-day creation or God stopping the sun from revolving around the Earth, question your science teacher instead! Here are ten surefire questions that will leave your teacher stumped!
  1. If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?
  2. The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!
  3. If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)
  4. If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?
  5. How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?
  6. Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!
  7. People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?
  8. If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)
  9. If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?
  10. Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?
Don't let your science teacher weasel out of these questions! If he makes some stupid comments like "Well that question is meaningless" or "Evolution doesn't work that way" or "You have a poor understanding of science", don't let him get away with it! He is only trying to buy time because he know he can't answer your questions. Press him and make him answer your questions. That's what a teacher is for...right?



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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 05:01 PM

Amen Reverend! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And Christians are blessed with an extraordinary God and an extraordinary Book of reference (the Bible) that answers everything.

What does that apostate religion of secular "science" have? A bunch of heathens "experts" competing with each other for earthly rewards, and "Wikipedia" which changes its "truth" moment by moment by whatever seems to be currently popular. And when these scientists do manage to come up with some weak answer, they can't back up their claims with chapter and verse like we can.

Kids, if you are strong in your faith, then YOU can be the teachers this coming school year!

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 05:33 PM

Well Reverand,

I doubt a grade school teacher would know anything about those questions. Even at a high school level, they only learn within the departments curriculum. You would need to ask a University teacher.




This is from what I know:



2.There is a big bang theory that states that the big bang occurs an infinite amount of times. I don't really know the specifics, but supposedly, the Big Bang actually created space in order to expand. It will then continue to expand until it runs out of its' base energy "Law of Conservation Of Matter". Once it reaches that point, the universe will fall back onto itself and reach singularity once again. Then another big bang will occur.

3. We would not fly off the earth because of gravity(mass of planet). i.e since the moon is smaller, it has less gravity that's why we can see people jumping hundreds of feet into the air in moon video's. There's more to it, but I'm not very knowledgeable about the theory, except the equations.


5.First of all "How to measure the distance to the sun:
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=400


In order to measure the distance from further stars, they use a method called "Triangulation". Basically they use the distance from the sun and use a triangle to see how much it's moved every month.

As for very far stars:

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There is no direct method currently available to measure the distance to stars farther than 400 light years from Earth, so astronomers instead use brightness measurements. It turns out that a star's color spectrum is a good indication of its actual brightness. The relationship between color and brightness was proven using the several thousand stars close enough to earth to have their distances measured directly. Astronomers can therefore look at a distant star and determine its color spectrum. From the color, they can determine the star's actual brightness. By knowing the actual brightness and comparing it to the apparent brightness seen from Earth (that is, by looking at how dim the star has become once its light reaches Earth), they can determine the distance to the star.
9. I think there is electric involved, since brain waves have a frequency. If your frequency is similar to another person, partially reading their mind is possible i.e identical twins.



10.I think it was because "photons" are destroyed the moment they are created. Since no time can pass while "nothing happens", a photon can move anywhere in the universe in an instant.




Anyways, I'll try asking a Biology teacher about your first question. I'm sure they will be stumped because there is actually no proof of it. I look forward to what lame lie they make up.
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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 05:42 PM

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Well Reverand,

I doubt a grade school teacher would know anything about those questions. Even at a high school level, they only learn within the departments curriculum. You would need to ask a University teacher.




This is from what I know:



2.There is a big bang theory that states that the big bang occurs an infinite amount of times. I don't really know the specifics, but supposedly, the Big Bang actually created space in order to expand. It will then continue to expand until it runs out of its' base energy "Law of Conservation Of Matter". Once it reaches that point, the universe will fall back onto itself and reach singularity once again. Then another big bang will occur.

3. We would not fly off the earth because of gravity(mass of planet). i.e since the moon is smaller, it has less gravity that's why we can see people jumping hundreds of feet into the air in moon video's. There's more to it, but I'm not very knowledgeable about the theory, except the equations.


5.First of all "How to measure the distance to the sun:
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=400


In order to measure the distance from further stars, they use a method called "Triangulation". Basically they use the distance from the sun and use a triangle to see how much it's moved every month.

As for very far stars:


9. I think there is electric involved, since brain waves have a frequency. If your frequency is similar to another person, partially reading their mind is possible i.e identical twins.



10.I think it was because "photons" are destroyed the moment they are created. Since no time can pass while "nothing happens", a photon can move anywhere in the universe in an instant.




Anyways, I'll try asking a Biology teacher about your first question. I'm sure they will be stumped because there is actually no proof of it. I look forward to what lame lie they make up.

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 06:10 PM

If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

Chimpanzees and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, which, surprise surprise, isn't still around.


The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space, if you made a scale model of a hydrogen atom with, the nucleus the size of, say, a golfball, the electrons would be about 500,000 miles away. In a singularity, the atoms are compressed such that there is none of the "emptiness"; you could fit everything into an atom sized space with room to spare.

If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

Because from our perspective, the sun is revolving around the earth, due to the earths spin; in relation to the earth, which we understand as being motionless, even though it isn't, the sun does seem to rise and fall, revolving around the earth. Also, lrn2 Gravity. I hear gravity gives you fundamormons alot of trouble.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

They dont. lrn2 anatomy

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

As has been said, the science of triangulation.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

DNA is not a liquid. And why is it so easy for you to believe that you can write information on a computer hard drive, but not DNA? A bit convenient for your argument isn't it.

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

What do you think skin and hair is, if not natural clothing, which protects our flesh from the elements, and keeps us warm. Because we wear clothes, our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt, ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker, and our hair has receded from the majority of the human body.

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

I will even use your own logic to disprove you on this one. According to your theologists, Adam lived for over 900 hundred years. I think he had enough time.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Gasoline & Bug-spray =/= Biochemistry. Also, brains are a highly organized "mishmash" of biochemistry.

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Time is relative to the universal constant. No, not God kids, but the speed of light. For objects that are traveling close to the speed of light, time slows down, because time is dependent on the relative speed of light, ie. If you'r in a car traveling a tiny bit slower than a train beside you, the train doesn't seem to be traveling incredibly fast, however, if you are walking, the train speeds past you, due to the principal of Relative Speed.

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 06:17 PM

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If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

Chimpanzees and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, which, surprise surprise, isn't still around.


The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space, if you made a scale model of a hydrogen atom with, the nucleus the size of, say, a golfball, the electrons would be about 500,000 miles away. In a singularity, the atoms are compressed such that there is none of the "emptiness"; you could fit everything into an atom sized space with room to spare.

If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

Because from our perspective, the sun is revolving around the earth, due to the earths spin; in relation to the earth, which we understand as being motionless, even though it isn't, the sun does seem to rise and fall, revolving around the earth. Also, lrn2 Gravity. I hear gravity gives you fundamormons alot of trouble.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

They dont. lrn2 anatomy

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

As has been said, the science of triangulation.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

DNA is not a liquid. And why is it so easy for you to believe that you can write information on a computer hard drive, but not DNA? A bit convenient for your argument isn't it.

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

What do you think skin and hair is, if not natural clothing, which protects our flesh from the elements, and keeps us warm. Because we wear clothes, our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt, ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker, and our hair has receded from the majority of the human body.

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

I will even use your own logic to disprove you on this one. According to your theologists, Adam lived for over 900 hundred years. I think he had enough time.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Gasoline & Bug-spray =/= Biochemistry. Also, brains are a highly organized "mishmash" of biochemistry.

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Time is relative to the universal constant. No, not God kids, but the speed of light. For objects that are traveling close to the speed of light, time slows down, because time is dependent on the relative speed of light, ie. If you'r in a car traveling a tiny bit slower than a train beside you, the train doesn't seem to be traveling incredibly fast, however, if you are walking, the train speeds past you, due to the principal of Relative Speed.

I'm 17, and I just answered all your so-called "unanswerable questions"

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:11 PM

If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

Chimpanzees and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, which, surprise surprise, isn't still around.

Nope. No evidence of a common ancestor. Science has pretty much firmly established we evolved from chimps.

The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space, if you made a scale model of a hydrogen atom with, the nucleus the size of, say, a golfball, the electrons would be about 500,000 miles away. In a singularity, the atoms are compressed such that there is none of the "emptiness"; you could fit everything into an atom sized space with room to spare.

This is highly preposterous. So if we can say 99.99% of atoms are pure empty space, and there are atoms all around us, how come we don't see empty space. If you and I are 99.99% empty space, we would be practically invisible.


If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

Because from our perspective, the sun is revolving around the earth, due to the earths spin; in relation to the earth, which we understand as being motionless, even though it isn't, the sun does seem to rise and fall, revolving around the earth. Also, lrn2 Gravity. I hear gravity gives you fundamormons alot of trouble.

If the earth was truly moving, wouldn't we feel it? Also, we would fly off because of gravity. The sun has a greater gravitational pull than the earth. We would fly off into the sun.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

They dont. lrn2 anatomy

Yes, they do.

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

As has been said, the science of triangulation.

But see the problem with triangulation is based on assumptions and conjecture. They measure stars by using the distance from earth to sun as one reference, right? Well, how do we know the distance from the earth to sun? We go back to the same problem as before. Measuring long distances.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

DNA is not a liquid. And why is it so easy for you to believe that you can write information on a computer hard drive, but not DNA? A bit convenient for your argument isn't it.

Why does the A stand for Acid then? Is not acid a liquid?

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

What do you think skin and hair is, if not natural clothing, which protects our flesh from the elements, and keeps us warm. Because we wear clothes, our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt, ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker, and our hair has receded from the majority of the human body.

If hair and skin are "natural clothes", I'd say that's a pretty pathetic excuse for clothing! Would you go out in freezing temperatures naked? No, of course not. So if evolution and nature is all about "survival of the fittest" and "the strongest survive", then it would stand to reason that our skin would keep us protected from the elements. Because it is not, it destroys the credibility of evolution.

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

I will even use your own logic to disprove you on this one. According to your theologists, Adam lived for over 900 hundred years. I think he had enough time.

Wrong. The Bible says Adam did it in one day.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Gasoline & Bug-spray =/= Biochemistry. Also, brains are a highly organized "mishmash" of biochemistry.

Can you prove that?

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Time is relative to the universal constant. No, not God kids, but the speed of light. For objects that are traveling close to the speed of light, time slows down, because time is dependent on the relative speed of light, ie. If you'r in a car traveling a tiny bit slower than a train beside you, the train doesn't seem to be traveling incredibly fast, however, if you are walking, the train speeds past you, due to the principal of Relative Speed.

Einstein himself said that the "cosmological constant" was his biggest blunder. Still this does not address the question I posed. The faster you go, the more time slows down for you (and you become physically elongated as well). According to relativity, if you hit light speed, time stops. So if time stops, how can you get from Point A to Point B? You have no time to do so!

Furthermore, it stands to reason that once you hit light speed you would basically become null and void. You would cease to exist. After all, you could never come out of light speed since there is no time available to a single action. There is no time available for your atoms to vibrate. You cease to exist.

Yet light travels at light speed and exists. This is proof that relativity is just conjecture and science fiction.



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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:28 PM

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Answers are easy -- it is the truth that is hard too get. On the plus side, I see you hate mormons. Thats good.

Sadly tho, your answers are regurgitated talking points from your secular religious leaders that you parrot without any real understanding.

1. I sense sarcasm here. But why or why not is it a surprise that your so called common ancestor is not alive? Seems a little too convenient to me that your "proof" happens to be something that you can't see or reproduce. Where I come from we call that religion. False religion.

2. You say "The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space". I assume you mean the atoms in YOUR brain? Now THAT is something that I could believe. But to be serious: I know a sponge is mostly empty space. I know a brick is not. It is common sense. Your "universe a nutshell because sponges and bricks are the same" is not common sense. Try again.

3. Ha! Even your own scientists say you are wrong. They say that motion is relative, and that you can arbitrarily designate any system body as the stationary one and all other objects move in relation to it. So guess what? God picks the Earth. If you don't like it, go argue with Him.

4. "A cervical rib is a supernumerary or accessory rib arising from the seventh cervical vertebra. This abnormality occurs in approximately 0.5% of the population and is more common in females" http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/19/1/105.full.pdf This is from your own heathen scientists. Tho this trait has been slowly bleeding out over the generations, God sees fit to still specially mark a few blessed women with a reminder of how she was created.

5. Again, your own scientists contradict you. Triangles are 3 straight lines. You heathens say that space is curved (whatever that means?). So make up your mind and try again.

6. DNA is dissolved is the cell cytoplasm, much like sugar in water. It is a solution and liquid for all practice purposes. Computer chips are solid pieces of silicon. You weren't even close on this one.

7. You contradict yourself. You say "our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker" and yet I see skin adapting quite well! Dark at the equator with more sun, White at the poles with less sun, and brown in the middle. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

8. Adam spent 900 years total! He has a lot less time in the Garden before he got kicked out. And the Bible says that he named them all before God created Eve. So nice try, but try again.

9. Nothing you said there even remotely made sense.

10. Again your scientists contradict you. Their whole claim is that the speed of light is a constant, and not relative to ANYTHING (180,000 m/s regardless of the frame of reference). You say "Time is relative to the universal constant". Which is a double blunder, because your scientists don't even have a universal constant (except for constantly being wrong).

OK, so rather than parrot this stuff back, do some research and figure this stuff out on your own. If you don't take your scientists' words for it and you do it yourself, then you won't get caught flatfooted like this ever again


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Amen Reverend! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And Christians are blessed with an extraordinary God and an extraordinary Book of reference (the Bible) that answers everything.

What does that apostate religion of secular "science" have? A bunch of heathens "experts" competing with each other for earthly rewards, and "Wikipedia" which changes its "truth" moment by moment by whatever seems to be currently popular. And when these scientists do manage to come up with some weak answer, they can't back up their claims with chapter and verse like we can.

Kids, if you are strong in your faith, then YOU can be the teachers this coming school year!

These top 10 questions are awesome! I am copying them down now
A book doesnt amount to evidence unlessa confession, the bible is a storybook however


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A...the bible is a storybook however
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Prove it.
There is nothing to substantiate what the Bible says.
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There is nothing to substantiate what the Bible says.


Faith aside, I guess you haven't looked into Flood Geology, Irreducible Complexity, fulfilled prophecies, unique historical accuracy, or the numerous other things the Bible mentioned before you so-called scientists started asking stupid questions. Like these:[Source]
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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 06:30 PM

I also think it's pretty obvious I said that ONLY because he didn't want me to.

You also ignore all my compliments .

Back to the subject, are you going to make an actual arguement? Or just post more false, LIEbral blasphemy?
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I also think it's pretty obvious I said that ONLY because he didn't want me to.

You also ignore all my compliments .

Back to the subject, are you going to make an actual arguement? Or just post more false, LIEbral blasphemy?
It's not that I didn't want you to, I just knew that you most likely would.

lrn2 internet.

Also, question for you, how come humans don't live as long as they did in the bible. Even Adam, who commited the original sin, lived to be 900, so don't give me any of that, humans arent close enough to God bullshit.
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  1. If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around? - So they can periodically be elected president, such as the man who served before Obama. *Ahem* Humans and chimps are not the same, we merely evolved from a common ancestor. Modern day chimps are our cousins, not our ancestors.
  2. The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car! - Ever heard of expansion? The big bang was many reactions which led to the forming of our universe. More happened in the first fifteen minutes of the universe than in all the billions of years afterwards. It is the various reactions (eg matter/antimatter reactions) which caused expansion. Oops, also forgot to add that when it comes to a singularity, what can be contained within is nowhere near relative to size.
  3. If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?) Because the earth is rotating on its Axis, which means that as it turns (thus creating day and night) we perceive the sun as in different positions in the sky. It does not actually move. The moon, however, does revolve around the sky.
  4. If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women? - This is actually an easily debunked myth. Many christians don't even believe it. We have the same amount of ribs.
  5. How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long? - There are instruments to measure the distance light travels in a year - take a look at this:
  6. http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html
  7. Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid! - The phosphate ion in DNA gives an acidic property. but not everything with an acidic property is the same as say, sulfuric acid! It's the properties of said dna which make it building blocks. Information isn't written like with a pencil.
  8. People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then? - Because wearing clothes has negated the need to evolve further coverings. Not clothes, but perhaps a thicker fur covering would have happened if we hadn't started wearing clothes.
  9. If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22) - Obviously then bible is a myth which was written before people were aware of how many species there were. they only wrote about the things which they knew. Obviously not much back then, eh?
  10. If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think? - Because it is the chemical/electric reactions in our brain which cause it to work. Obviously the same chemical reactions can hardly occur in bug spray or gasoline, now, can they?
  11. Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light? - Relativity says you cannot accelerate mass from a velocity less than light's to a velocity equal to or greater than light's. You can never reach the speed of light, so it is dumb to ask what would happen if you did.
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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 09-25-2009, 03:52 AM

RJO: If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around? -

RVH:So they can periodically be elected president, such as the man who served before Obama. *Ahem* Humans and chimps are not the same, we merely evolved from a common ancestor. Modern day chimps are our cousins, not our ancestors.

RJO: How come then on those "evolutionary charts" it shows men evolving from chimpanzees?


The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car! - Ever heard of expansion? The big bang was many reactions which led to the forming of our universe. More happened in the first fifteen minutes of the universe than in all the billions of years afterwards. It is the various reactions (eg matter/antimatter reactions) which caused expansion. Oops, also forgot to add that when it comes to a singularity, what can be contained within is nowhere near relative to size.

Ah so matter came out of nothing? That is the basis of your argument. So therefore this is evidence of God, as He created something out of nothing.

If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?) Because the earth is rotating on its Axis, which means that as it turns (thus creating day and night) we perceive the sun as in different positions in the sky. It does not actually move. The moon, however, does revolve around the sky.

Funny how you concede that the moon revolves around the earth, but not the sun. Why would they be any different from each other? Also, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim the earth revolves around the sun and I don't see a single instance of proof here from you.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women? - This is actually an easily debunked myth. Many christians don't even believe it. We have the same amount of ribs.

Prove it. Maybe we could cut you open as an experiment?

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long? - There are instruments to measure the distance light travels in a year - take a look at this:

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html

The link didn't tell anything about measuring distance between stars. It talked about the speed of light. Okay, but the problem with using light speed to measure star distance, is how do the scientists know how old the light is? If they claim Alpha Centauri is 4.6 light years away...how do they really know the light they capture now is 4.6 years old? It is impossible to measure star distance.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid! - The phosphate ion in DNA gives an acidic property. but not everything with an acidic property is the same as say, sulfuric acid! It's the properties of said dna which make it building blocks. Information isn't written like with a pencil.

So you admit you can't write information in DNA.

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then? - Because wearing clothes has negated the need to evolve further coverings. Not clothes, but perhaps a thicker fur covering would have happened if we hadn't started wearing clothes.

And yet people still die of hypothermia even when wearing clothes. Wouldn't nature have taken care of this?

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22) - Obviously then bible is a myth which was written before people were aware of how many species there were. they only wrote about the things which they knew. Obviously not much back then, eh?

Okay hot shot, how many species have you counted? All the species I've seen in my lifetime, I could name and count.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think? - Because it is the chemical/electric reactions in our brain which cause it to work. Obviously the same chemical reactions can hardly occur in bug spray or gasoline, now, can they?

Simple logic destroys your argument. So how come if I put a spark (electrical) to gasoline (chemical), no intelligence or consciousness results? All there is a huge fire. We could even use a more humanlike example...take a human kidney. Apply 50,000 volts of electricity to it. Will it start to think? No.

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light? - Relativity says you cannot accelerate mass from a velocity less than light's to a velocity equal to or greater than light's. You can never reach the speed of light, so it is dumb to ask what would happen if you did.


Obviously, light can reach the speed of light. So it still leaves my question unanswered. Time STOPS at the speed of light. So how could light travel from the Sun to the Earth if it literally has no time to make the journey?

You know the calculus equation D=R x T? Distance = Rate times Time? Now figure out this equation using these variables, Rate is 186,000 miles a second and Time is 0. 186,000 x 0 = 0 (Distance).

Light Speed and Relativity are mutually incompatible. One of them has to go (or maybe both).



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RJO: How come then on those "evolutionary charts" it shows men evolving from chimpanzees?

Look at those charts again. It'd show modern day chimps and humans evolving from a common ancestor. Human actually share, I believe it is over 50% of dna with plants! Explain that one, mister.


Ah so matter came out of nothing? That is the basis of your argument. So therefore this is evidence of God, as He created something out of nothing.

- Not from nothing, from a singularity. This original 'pinpoint' was extremely hot and dense. Even more dense than you guys. It's the old question, which is heavier, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers? They are equal, but compare the size of the lead vs the featherload. Lead, being a lot more dense, will require a lot less of it to make a pound. The density of the universe in the beginning would have been - unimaginable!

Funny how you concede that the moon revolves around the earth, but not the sun. Why would they be any different from each other? Also, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim the earth revolves around the sun and I don't see a single instance of proof here from you.

The moon is a satellite of the earth, the Earth is a satellite of the sun. People have walked on the moon (yes, I don't think that was a hoax) I'd like to see anyone walk on the sun! I notice, also, you can't refute the fact of the Earth spinning on its Axis. You can't. As for the moon/sun thing:

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Prove it. Maybe we could cut you open as an experiment?

If you really do want proof, you're free to look in on an autopsy any time. Or visit a museum.


The link didn't tell anything about measuring distance between stars. It talked about the speed of light. Okay, but the problem with using light speed to measure star distance, is how do the scientists know how old the light is? If they claim Alpha Centauri is 4.6 light years away...how do they really know the light they capture now is 4.6 years old? It is impossible to measure star distance.

Maybe you should visit this link instead, sparky:
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And just FYI, some stars we see in the night sky have in actuality already exploded. The light from the explosion just hasn't reached us yet.

So you admit you can't write information in DNA.

I said nothing of the sort, sparky. I merely said that you take the word 'write' too literally. The building blocks of life are contained in dna - but they won't appear as typed word on a screen. 'Written' is just an easy word to explain this rather than lapsing into techno-jargon.

And yet people still die of hypothermia even when wearing clothes. Wouldn't nature have taken care of this?

Nature, it seem, can't cure idiocy or unfortunate events. Look at the people who have died of hypothermia. Would they have died in normal circumstances?

Okay hot shot, how many species have you counted? All the species I've seen in my lifetime, I could name and count.

That's my point. The men who wrote that part of the bible only wrote down what they knew and could see. They'd have flipped out if you tried explaining micro-organisms to them. I can't name all species and subspecies from memory, but I could look them up. They only wrote down that which they knew, and seeing as they didn't write all the ones they missed down at a later date, it can only be concluded that they only recorded what they knew.

Simple logic destroys your argument. So how come if I put a spark (electrical) to gasoline (chemical), no intelligence or consciousness results? All there is a huge fire. We could even use a more humanlike example...take a human kidney. Apply 50,000 volts of electricity to it. Will it start to think? No.

Did you read what I said about specific chemical reactions? The specific reactions that occur in the brain are a far cry from what you're proposing. You wouldn't be able to replicate those reactions, it seems no one can (at least not yet, or we'd have been able to create AI. And as I see no human-level AIs out there, it can only be concluded that the conditions of the human brain can't quite be replicated yet, eh, sparky?



Obviously, light can reach the speed of light. So it still leaves my question unanswered. Time STOPS at the speed of light. So how could light travel from the Sun to the Earth if it literally has no time to make the journey?

You know the calculus equation D=R x T? Distance = Rate times Time? Now figure out this equation using these variables, Rate is 186,000 miles a second and Time is 0. 186,000 x 0 = 0 (Distance).

It is only your perception of the motion of time that would stop if you, a human, were somehow travelling at light speed. Time doesn't stop at light speed, that's ridiculous. If it did we'd have no light, no time, and we'd all be stuck in perpetual pause. Sheesh. Read about the theory of relativity sometime.

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Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 09-25-2009, 03:38 PM

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The light from the explosion just hasn't reached us yet.
So how do you know it has happened. You're just making it up as you go along.

Shouldn't you be at home, baking for your husband or something.



As to asking the science teacher, shouldn't you be home schooling your children?
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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 09-02-2010, 02:27 PM

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  1. If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?
  2. The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!
  3. If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)
  4. If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?
  5. How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?
  6. Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!
  7. People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?
  8. If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)
  9. If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?
  10. Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?
1. Evolution is not a far fetched idea. In fact, our DNA differs only by 2% from chimps. To answer your question, here is a tree of evolution, have a look at it, I'll bet my soul on it you won't even end the arguement here.

2. Atoms expand if heat and electrons are applied. Because of the movement of all electrons and protons, expansion isnt stopped, new elements form and so on.

3. We dont fall off earth because of centrifugal force.

4. Men and women have egual amounts of ribs, if you do not, consult a doctor, it could be a serious injury.

5. Distance can be measured by light traveling. Because light has its own speed (about 3000000 meters per second), and stars emit light, you can measure the distance with certain equipment.

6. DNA, Double Helix, or whatever you want to call it, is a string of amino-acids which contain structures build like a keylock system. Some fit into another, some dont. THis is the way information is shared between cells and human, and mammal life forms.

7. We have had "natural clothing" its called hair. Because of our way of living, we degenerated the amount of hair on our bodies. We adapted to our needs.

8. Counter question: How did Noah fit all life forms, both male and female on one ship. There is proof that there are at least 3000 different kind of snakes on our planet.

9. Because gasoline doesnt have a spine which functions as a information-"highway" in our bodies. Without a spine you couldn't move anything below your head.

10. You cant approach the speed of light because it would tear your body into pieces. Fasten yourself around an airplane. The speed approached on there would cause your body to complete shut down because all your blood would rush into your legs because of centrifugal force.


I tried to do my best answering all your questions, in case you didn't read them, way to go ingorance, way to go.
 

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