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Default Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 08-13-2007, 08:44 AM

Next time some whining welfare bum aka democrat gives you some commie class-war nonsense about Jesus being some sweat-stinking blue-collar type, give them this:
There are a few hints as to the socioeconomic status of Jesus’ family. The common wisdom is that they were poor. Evidence for this comes from his birth in a stable/cave, the meager sacrificial offering, and Joseph's occupation as a carpenter. But a careful look reveals a different picture –
The nature of his birth (no room at the Inn) suggests that they were of limited means. Yet their means were not so limited that they didn’t apply to the Inn for a room, whereas most peasant travellers would either stay at the side of the road or stay with relatives. Hence, the election of staying at an Inn demonstrates at least a middle class background. Nor were they so impoverished that they didn’t make the journeys to Jerusalem for the holy days. And, apparently, Joseph made enough money that he had to go to Jerusalem to pay taxes. As indicated in another section, Joseph, was a master builder not a carpenter, and the opportunities for a master builder in the bustling area of central Galilee were many...
The wedding at Cana, and the participation of Jesus’ mother, suggest that they were squarely in the middle class. Moreover, Jesus had many friends and associates from the wealthy class (e.g., Lazarus, Joseph of Arimathea) and many of his stories indicate his familiarity with the issues confronting the landed gentry.
Finally, Jesus's education indicates that he was not a peasant. In those days, literacy was reserved for the top 3 to 5% of the population. No poor peasant's son would know how to read and write, speak Greek, and have an expert command of the scriptures.
Even if it were true that prior to Jesus' birth the family was poor, surely after he was born, with the gift of gold from the Magi, Jesus' family had sufficient funds.
"The manger did not symbolize poverty but a peculiarity of location caused by circumstances." (Spong, 1992, p. 144)


"There is notoriously little accurate information about Jesus's circumstances. But what there is clearly indicates that his family was well-to-do, and that his upbringing was of a kind available only to those with status and financial resources...Jesus is obviously literate and well educated...when education was essentially an adjunct of class." (Baigent, Lee & Lincoln, 1986, 30-31).


"In the Gospels, Jesus is called a tekton, a Greek word that meant not merely a carpenter skilled in making cabinets or furniture but a designer, construction engineer, or architect. A tekton could build a house, construct a bridge, or design a temple." (Starbird, 2003, p. 53)

The most common themes in Jesus' parables (vineyards, slaves, ownership disputes) would dictate that Jesus had been the owner of a large vineyard with serious production problems revolving around lazy slaves.

Conclusion:

Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent of society, his dad was an archetect and he owned a big vineyard with lots of lazy slaves who had to be beaten a lot. In, short, JESUS IS A REPUBLICAN!

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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 08-13-2007, 03:42 PM

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Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent of society, his dad was an archetect and he owned a big vineyard with lots of lazy slaves who had to be beaten a lot. In, short, JESUS IS A REPUBLICAN!
I certainly am glad that the scholarly research about Jesus' socioeconomic background has finally been established with certainty, once and for all. I am sick of hearing from hippies, pinkos, communists and liberals that Jesus worked for the poor. Please excuse the rough language, but to that I say, BALDERDASH!

How do I know? Because I feel the spirit of Jesus in my heart. When I beat the Asian slave laborers in my factories, I feel the spirit of Jesus. When I evict the Cathylick family for being late on their rent two days or making noise after 10 p.m., I feel the spirit of Jesus deep in my heart. When I hear the screams of the heathens being punished in my basement, the very essence of the spirit of Jesus fills my soul and makes my heart race. When I hear the jibberish cries of the Filipino mothers as I give the signal for the bulldozer to bury their children's charred and mutilated bodies in a mass grave out behind the factory, it's the spirit of Jesus that I feel deep in my soul.

And I'm glad that there is finally undisputed, rock-solid evidence that Jesus was a take-no-prisoners capitalist. If you think about it, it all makes perfect sense-- for how else are the poor supposed to LEARN that they're just a bunch of worthless fetid meat, made for the exploitation of their betters?
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I certainly am glad that the scholarly research about Jesus' socioeconomic background has finally been established with certainty, once and for all. I am sick of hearing from hippies, pinkos, communists and liberals that Jesus worked for the poor. Please excuse the rough language, but to that I say, BALDERDASH!

How do I know? Because I feel the spirit of Jesus in my heart. When I beat the Asian slave laborers in my factories, I feel the spirit of Jesus. When I evict the Cathylick family for being late on their rent two days or making noise after 10 p.m., I feel the spirit of Jesus deep in my heart. When I hear the screams of the heathens being punished in my basement, the very essence of the spirit of Jesus fills my soul and makes my heart race. When I hear the jibberish cries of the Filipino mothers as I give the signal for the bulldozer to bury their children's charred and mutilated bodies in a mass grave out behind the factory, it's the spirit of Jesus that I feel deep in my soul.

And I'm glad that there is finally undisputed, rock-solid evidence that Jesus was a take-no-prisoners capitalist. If you think about it, it all makes perfect sense-- for how else are the poor supposed to LEARN that they're just a bunch of worthless fetid meat, made for the exploitation of their betters?
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Jesus is clear, for beating to be effective it must cause injury. The Scriprure has been quoted frequently. If it were not so why did God arrange for Jesus to be whipped and injured in order to heal us?



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I Peter 2:21b-24 Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. KJV
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Jesus is clear, for beating to be effective it must cause injury. The Scriprure has been quoted frequently. If it were not so why did God arrange for Jesus to be whipped and injured in order to heal us?



.Proverbs 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

Isaiah 53:4-6 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

I Peter 2:21b-24 Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. KJV
I don't care what the Bible says, hurting another people is wrong, specially when you're doing it in some kind of racist attack. What kind of Christian beat a person just because is from another country or have less money tan oneself?
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I don't care what the Bible says...
This explains why you're such an illogical, childish fool who will never be married.



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I don't care what the Bible says, hurting another people is wrong, specially when you're doing it in some kind of racist attack.
There is nothing racists about this, Brother Worthington shows equal tough love to poor whites.
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Someone willing to help motivate the poor to stop making the choices that make them poor.



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I don't care what the Bible says, hurting another people is wrong, specially when you're doing it in some kind of racist attack. What kind of Christian beat a person just because is from another country or have less money tan oneself?
A Christian. I am sick and tired of telling you. Please pick up a Bible (KJV1611) and educate yourself. Relate to the Word of God.


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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 08-13-2007, 06:30 PM

What an excellent post, Brother! In fact, when I took the matter into my prayer closet, Jesus guided me to a passage of Scripture showing that during His earthly ministry, He had preferred a Robb Report level of living for Himself over basic sustanance for those who had made the lifestyle choice to be poor:

John 12:3-8: Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment. Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's [son], which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein. Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this. For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.

Oh, and note carefully who took the bleeding-heart liberal Democratic position. That's right — it was Judas Iscariot! Just like the welfare pimps in the modern-day Democratic Party, he only feigned interest in the poor in order to incite class warfare for his own ends.


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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 06-04-2008, 08:08 PM

So, who will Jesus vote for? Looks like the class-warring jealous poorofascists from the people's republic of envyland, and their propagada organ they call "The Fabulous Life" has an answer:



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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 07-01-2008, 05:24 PM

Here you can see the blessings Jesus has showered upon John McCain, as seen from His point of view in the heavens:

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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 07-01-2008, 08:11 PM

Jesus would be absolutely against capital gains taxation and the Democrat's Death Tax.
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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 07-02-2008, 12:06 AM

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Here you can see the blessings Jesus has showered upon John McCain, as seen from His point of view in the heavens:
Jesus will bestow an additional blessing on John McCain come this November as he will be the next occupant of our nation's White House.

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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 09-05-2018, 12:13 AM

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Next time some whining welfare bum aka democrat gives you some commie class-war nonsense about Jesus being some sweat-stinking blue-collar type, give them this:
There are a few hints as to the socioeconomic status of Jesus’ family. The common wisdom is that they were poor. Evidence for this comes from his birth in a stable/cave, the meager sacrificial offering, and Joseph's occupation as a carpenter. But a careful look reveals a different picture –
The nature of his birth (no room at the Inn) suggests that they were of limited means. Yet their means were not so limited that they didn’t apply to the Inn for a room, whereas most peasant travellers would either stay at the side of the road or stay with relatives. Hence, the election of staying at an Inn demonstrates at least a middle class background. Nor were they so impoverished that they didn’t make the journeys to Jerusalem for the holy days. And, apparently, Joseph made enough money that he had to go to Jerusalem to pay taxes. As indicated in another section, Joseph, was a master builder not a carpenter, and the opportunities for a master builder in the bustling area of central Galilee were many...
The wedding at Cana, and the participation of Jesus’ mother, suggest that they were squarely in the middle class. Moreover, Jesus had many friends and associates from the wealthy class (e.g., Lazarus, Joseph of Arimathea) and many of his stories indicate his familiarity with the issues confronting the landed gentry.
Finally, Jesus's education indicates that he was not a peasant. In those days, literacy was reserved for the top 3 to 5% of the population. No poor peasant's son would know how to read and write, speak Greek, and have an expert command of the scriptures.
Even if it were true that prior to Jesus' birth the family was poor, surely after he was born, with the gift of gold from the Magi, Jesus' family had sufficient funds.
"The manger did not symbolize poverty but a peculiarity of location caused by circumstances." (Spong, 1992, p. 144)


"There is notoriously little accurate information about Jesus's circumstances. But what there is clearly indicates that his family was well-to-do, and that his upbringing was of a kind available only to those with status and financial resources...Jesus is obviously literate and well educated...when education was essentially an adjunct of class." (Baigent, Lee & Lincoln, 1986, 30-31).


"In the Gospels, Jesus is called a tekton, a Greek word that meant not merely a carpenter skilled in making cabinets or furniture but a designer, construction engineer, or architect. A tekton could build a house, construct a bridge, or design a temple." (Starbird, 2003, p. 53)

The most common themes in Jesus' parables (vineyards, slaves, ownership disputes) would dictate that Jesus had been the owner of a large vineyard with serious production problems revolving around lazy slaves.

Conclusion:

Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent of society, his dad was an archetect and he owned a big vineyard with lots of lazy slaves who had to be beaten a lot. In, short, JESUS IS A REPUBLICAN!
AMEN!

I think it is time to revive this thread now, as it clearly shows some stunning parallels between Jesus and Donald J. Trump (): both rich, both appealing to the masses, both wanting to make their land great again, both innocently persecuted by Pharisee Democrats.
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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 09-05-2018, 02:48 AM

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AMEN!

I think it is time to revive this thread now, as it clearly shows some stunning parallels between Jesus and Donald J. Trump (): both rich, both appealing to the masses, both wanting to make their land great again, both innocently persecuted by Pharisee Democrats.
You have accurately explained history as few others have done, Sister Basilissa. We who live in the wealthy city of Freehold know our exclusive life of luxury is also the life Jesus lived. That is why we continue to be His favorite Christians.

It is unfortunate the story of a poor Jesus still circulates. People with neither ambition nor money think it is they, not us, who are favored by Jesus. We wealthy Christians will have the last laugh when we watch the lazy poor file down the path to hell.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Trump Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 09-05-2018, 04:42 PM

Isaiah 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and theirs offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.


God has told us if we give to the Church without restriction or regret, God will see our untethered gift and return it 100 fold. Planting a seed.


Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.


Commonly called an investment. Praise the Glory!


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Jesus was among the wealthiest 5 percent! - 10-21-2018, 10:45 PM

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You have accurately explained history as few others have done, Sister Basilissa. We who live in the wealthy city of Freehold know our exclusive life of luxury is also the life Jesus lived. That is why we continue to be His favorite Christians.

It is unfortunate the story of a poor Jesus still circulates. People with neither ambition nor money think it is they, not us, who are favored by Jesus. We wealthy Christians will have the last laugh when we watch the lazy poor file down the path to hell.
Thank you, Brother Mayor. I am just a mere woman, so if I sometimes say something smart (for a woman), it is just a reflection of the inspiration I receive daily from our Pastors and other Godly men.
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Thank you, Brother Mayor. I am just a mere woman, so if I sometimes say something smart (for a woman), it is just a reflection of the inspiration I receive daily from our Pastors and other Godly men.
You are so very humble, Sister. I hope and pray I can become more like you!


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My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him. He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence;
I shall not be moved. In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
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