[Rev. Jim Osborne]

After reading this, I was left with a real bad taste in my mouth.

Now, there's nothing wrong with dating a man 41 years older than you, as one of my ex-wives (the last one) was 39 years younger than me. And there's nothing wrong with dating the exact same man that delivered your birth. Nothing creepy in that at all.

What's vomit-worthy is this man was an abortionist! (What he was doing delivering birth is anyone's guess). So the future Mrs. Santorum was living with a baby-killer out of wedlock.

This woman has left a stain on Rick Santorum's presidential bid.

Strange But True: Rick Santorum's Wife Dated The Abortion Doctor Who Delivered Her

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Wed, 01/18/2012 - 4:04pm —
Henry Decker






Rick Santorum's fierce, unequivocal opposition to a woman's right to choose has been one of the defining characteristics of his political career. Santorum's wife Karen is also staunchly pro-life, opposing abortions even in cases of rape. She wasn't always so dogmatic, however.
As the Philadelphia City Paper first reported in 2005, when Karen Santorum -- then known by her maiden name, Karen Garver -- met Rick she was living with Tom Allen, an OBGYN who co-founded Pittsburgh's first abortion clinic. Allen is 41 years older than Santorum, and he was technically the first man she ever met: Allen was the doctor who delivered her when she was born in 1960.
According to a story published in the most recent Newsweek, Karen, fresh out of college, reconnected with Allen in 1982 when she rented a basement apartment in his house. Allen told Newsweek that "that first night, as soon as it got dark, she called to say she was scared and asked if she could come up. I figured it was a come-on, but that was OK." The two then embarked on a nearly 5 year long relationship, during which Garver lived with Allen in an out of wedlock relationship.
"Karen had no problems with what I did for a living," Allen said in the same interview. "We never really discussed it."
Garver was apparently comfortable enough with Allen's profession to accompany a woman named Mary Greenberg to a clinic to have an abortion. "She told me it wasn’t that bad, that I shouldn’t be worried," Greenberg said to Newsweek. "She was very supportive."
After Garver met Santorum while interning at the Pittsburgh law firm Kirpatrick & Lockheart, she moved out of Allen's house to move in with her future husband. Allen recalled to the City Paper that Garver told him that he'd like Santorum.
"When she moved out to go be with Rick, she told me I'd like him, that he was pro-choice and a humanist. But I don't think there's a humanist bone in that man's body."

[Seth Campbell]

And this is why women are to go from their fathers to their husbands with no stopovers inbetween.

Why are the liebrals making a big deal about what his wife did BEFORE HE MET HER? Yes it's disgusting, yes it makes her a whore, but if heSantorum is able to keep her on a leash, I don't see a problem. Well with this part of his lifestyle.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Wait . . . she said Rick Santorum was a HUMANIST?

They are among the most vile near-humans on Earth! They're just atheists, with a thin veneer of "morality" that they create themselves, just like Wiccans do!

[Brother V]

This is the part of the story that makes me suspicious of the Santorums!!!

After Garver met Santorum while interning at the Pittsburgh law firm Kirpatrick & Lockheart, she moved out of Allen's house to move in with her future husband.

They lived in SIN?!?!?!?!

Remember folks, the only person who is Baptist who is running for president is Ron Paul.

The only other person... who isn't Catholic (Santorum, Gingrich, who abandoned being baptist like it was a wife with a disease) or isn't Mormon (Romney), who claims to be a straight up christian... is...

Obama?!?!

What the Fap!

YIC
V

[Johny Joe Hold]

Thank you, Rev. Jim, for bringing this important issue before us.

When you get to the technical part of this, evaluating the resumes of all involved, there is an inescapable conclusion:

The two Christian men, Newt and Santorum, are techically qualified to be President. They believe in Jesus and they present strong male role models in running their marriages.

Neither of the two leading candidates for First Lady, Karen Satorum and Callista Grigrich, are qualified for that job. Both have enticed men to live in sin with them.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Brother V

This is the part of the story that makes me suspicious of the Santorums!!!



They lived in SIN?!?!?!?!

Remember folks, the only person who is Baptist who is running for president is Ron Paul.

The only other person... who isn't Catholic (Santorum, Gingrich, who abandoned being baptist like it was a wife with a disease) or isn't Mormon (Romney), who claims to be a straight up christian... is...

Obama?!?!

What the Fap!

YIC
V

When that happen. Everyone one knows Obama is a Muslim (as in Atheist) like Hitler and Stalin? The whole world is going mad.

And if Paul is the only real Christian, why doesn't Paul want us to bomb terrorist states like Iran, Syria, Pakistan, North Korea, France, Turkey and the Virgin Islands? What kind of Christian refuses to go to war?

[Wide-Open]

Reverend Jim, this made me SO MAD I am frothy at the mouth!

Surely friends, these are the End Times?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Thank you, Rev. Jim, for bringing this important issue before us.

When you get to the technical part of this, evaluating the resumes of all involved, there is an inescapable conclusion:

The two Christian men, Newt and Santorum, are techically qualified to be President. They believe in Jesus and they present strong male role models in running their marriages.

Neither of the two leading candidates for First Lady, Karen Satorum and Callista Grigrich, are not qualified for that job. Both have enticed men to live in sin with them.

Sorry, meant to write not qualified.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Sorry, meant to write not qualified.

I don't get this, I can edit your correction into your original post Mayor Hold. Forum bugs or something.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by Brother V

...
Remember folks, the only person who is Baptist who is running for president is Ron Paul.
...

The good folks over at GODVOTER have compiled some extensive information on all the presidential candidates, and I encourage all Christians to check out this site. While we haven't fully vetted this information, it looks on the surface to be in accordance with Biblical principles. As an aside, I don't know why more of these groups don't seek our endorsement – being the only True Christian™ church on earth.

http://www.godvoter.org/

As to Mr. Paul, he seems to be a bit slippery in his commitments and coming forward in a responsible way at disclosing his beliefs.

2012 Republican Presidential Candidate
Ron Paul – Religion

What is the religion of Ron Paul? The religion of Ron Paul remains shrouded in something of a modern day mystery because US Representative Ron Paul almost never speaks about his religion.

In fact, about the only time Ron Paul has spoken about his religion is to express that he doesn't want to talk about his religion (on this, Ron Paul violates these Bible verses).

We came close to having Ron Paul leave his comfort zone in 2007 when his 2008 Presidential campaign responded as below on November 27, 2007 to our invitation for Congressman Paul to share his Christian testimony in response to these 30 questions:

The questionnaire was resent the next day as requested but his campaign did not get back to us thereafter despite several reminders. This was not a big surprise since our questions are quite pointed as intended.

In October of 2011, we again invited Congressman Ron Paul, out of courtesy, to share his testimony as a Christian in response to a new set of 30 questions updated for the 2012 Presidential race. Not surprisingly, Congressman Ron Paul has yet to share his beliefs and the communication quoted remains the last received to date from the Ron Paul campaign about his beliefs.

What we do know is that Ron Paul was raised Lutheran and now identifies himself as a Baptist. Since those labels say little about Ron Paul's beliefs, we await his responses to the questions below.

1. Are you a Christian?
Paul: (response pending)

2. When and how did you become a Christian?
Paul: (response pending)

3. How has becoming Christian changed you?
Paul: (response pending)

4. How would you define and describe your relationship with Jesus today?
Paul: (response pending)

5. In the past 12 months, how many hours have you read the Bible per week?
Paul: (response pending)

6. Which gift has the Holy Spirit given you, and what fruits has it borne?
Paul: (response pending)

7. What has been your greatest failure as a Christian?
Paul: (response pending)

8. What is the greatest challenge you face today as a Christian?
Paul: (response pending)

9. If you had to choose between God and country, which would you choose?
Paul: (response pending)

10. Whom do you think Jesus wants as our next President, and why?
Paul: (response pending)

11. Do you believe Jesus to be God or the Son of God?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

12. Do you believe Jesus was born to a virgin, died and rose from the dead?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

13. Do you believe Jesus ascended to the Father and will return riding on clouds?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

14. Do you believe the bread & wine turn into Jesus' flesh & blood when blessed?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

15. Do you believe Jesus and Satan were once brothers?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

16. Do you believe heaven and hell are places that really exist?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

17. Do you believe only those who obey Jesus as master will go to heaven?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

18. Which books do you believe to have been inspired by God and without error?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

19. Which passage(s) from those books troubles you, and how do you deal with it?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

20. The beliefs of which Christian leader alive today resembles your beliefs?
Ron Paul: (answer to this beliefs question is committed but not yet received)

http://www.godvoter.org/Ron-Paul-religion.html

[Pastor Ezekiel]

By the way, did you all know that God has cursed the Santorum clan with a retard kid?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

The good folks over at GODVOTER have compiled some extensive information on all the presidential candidates, and I encourage all Christians to check out this site. While we haven't fully vetted this information, it looks on the surface to be in accordance with Biblical principles. As an aside, I don't know why more of these groups don't seek our endorsement – being the only True Christian™ church on earth.

http://www.godvoter.org/

As to Mr. Paul, he seems to be a bit slippery in his commitments and coming forward in a responsible way at disclosing his beliefs.

. . .and yet, with his grade of "C", he's scoring better than Rick Santorum (no score??), Mitt Romney (F), and Ick Perry (D+).

For some reason, Nut Gingrinch gets a C+, even with responses like this:

Newt Gingrich has yet to respond to our questions below, sent to the Newt Gingrich 2012 campaign in October of 2011, about his beliefs. On April 27, 2011, however, Newt Gingrich did comment on one of the central Catholic beliefs:

"Slowly, over a decade, the centrality of the Eucharist in the Catholic Mass became more and more obvious to me." (Newt Gingrich at National Catholic Prayer Breakfast on April 27, 2011)

The "Eucharist" Newt Gingrich mentioned represents the Roman Catholic beliefs that when blessed by the Catholic priest, bread and wine turn into Jesus' physical human flesh and blood, which the congregants at the Catholic mass are then required to eat and drink in order to remain saved.

In reality, the Catholic Eucharist is an unsavory, cannibalistic heresy invented by Roman Catholicism to portray itself as the monopolistic dispenser of Jesus' salvation. This heresy contradicts Jesus' clarification that the content of the cup symbolizes the blood shed on the cross to pay the death penalty for our sins but remains, "fruit of the vine" - i.e., wine: