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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 06:25 AM

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Don't get me wrong please, I hold no grudge against any of you. My comments are not ment to be inflammatory in any way. I love you all and I leave you with this scripture I hope you will read and take to heart. For your reference I am a strait white man of age 32.
And thank you for your forgiveness
(I Peter 3:9) 9 not rendering evil for evil, or insult for insult; but instead blessing; knowing that to this were you called, that you may inherit a blessing.
We love you too.

That's why we rebuke, exhort, scourge and etc. It's called Christian Love. We are here to save souls. We love Jesus with all our hearts and souls. Maybe you don't agree with the method, but you can't deny the scholarship to the Word.


Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.



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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 06:31 AM

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It said General forum so I figured it was for everything feel free to move it as you please.

Of course I have read the Bible. the Old Tesemant was filled with Vengeful God. Please tell me what God said to Noha after he floded the world.
Sigh.


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When Noah came out of the ark, one of the first things he did was build an altar on the mountain side.
He gave an offering to God.
When Noah looked up he saw a beautiful sight.
God had placed a rainbow of beautiful colors in the sky. "I will never again send flood waters to cover the earth," God promised. "Whenever you look up and see a rainbow in the sky it will remind you of my promise."

years later when we broke our promis again Instead of sending a flood, God sent us his Son, Jesus Christ. The loving and forgiving God we first saw when he showed mercy on Noah’s family, is made flesh and came and lived among us. There was not a vengeful bone in this man’s body. He shone with God’s mercy to the point that he allowed himself to be crucified without cursing those who did it to him. Instead he cried on the cross, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” This truly was the Son of God. For us, Jesus shines brighter than the rainbow as a reminder of God’s faithfulness.

If you would like me to find the passages for you I can but you have read the bible so you know where it is.
And what was the second thing God did?

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Genesis 9:20-27
And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Ham looked on his father's nakedness, so God bestowed an eternal curse on all his descendants.



Tough, but fair.


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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 06:33 AM

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It said General forum so I figured it was for everything feel free to move it as you please.

Of course I have read the Bible. the Old Testament was filled with Vengeful God. Please tell me what God said to Noah after he flooded the world.


When Noah came out of the ark, one of the first things he did was build an altar on the mountain side.
He gave an offering to God.
When Noah looked up he saw a beautiful sight.
God had placed a rainbow of beautiful colors in the sky. "I will never again send flood waters to cover the earth," God promiseed. "Whenever you look up and see a rainbow in the sky it will remind you of my promise."

years later when we broke our promis again Instead of sending a flood, God sent us his Son, Jesus Christ. The loving and forgiving God we first saw when he showed mercy on Noah’s family, is made flesh and came and lived among us. There was not a vengeful bone in this man’s body. He shone with God’s mercy to the point that he allowed hI'mself to be crucified without cursing those who did it to him. Instead he cried on the cross, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” This truly was the Son of God. For us, Jesus shines brighter than the rainbow as a reminder of God’s faithfulness.

If you would like me to find the passages for you I can but you have read the bible so you know where it is.

Please forgive my spelling its late and im tired
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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 06:47 AM

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It said General forum so I figured it was for everything feel free to move it as you please.

Of course I have read the Bible. the Old Tesemant was filled with Vengeful God. Please tell me what God said to Noha after he floded the world.


When Noah came out of the ark, one of the first things he did was build an altar on the mountain side.
He gave an offering to God.

When Noah looked up he saw a beautiful sight.
God had placed a rainbow of beautiful colors in the sky.
"I will never again send flood waters to cover the earth," God promised. "Whenever you look up and see a rainbow in the sky it will remind you of my promise."

years later when we broke our promis again Instead of sending a flood, God sent us his Son, Jesus Christ. The loving and forgiving God we first saw when he showed mercy on Noah’s family, is made flesh and came and lived among us. There was not a vengeful bone in this man’s body. He shone with God’s mercy to the point that he allowed himself to be crucified without cursing those who did it to him. Instead he cried on the cross, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” This truly was the Son of God. For us, Jesus shines brighter than the rainbow as a reminder of God’s faithfulness.

If you would like me to find the passages for you I can but you have read the bible so you know where it is.
Wow, that has to be the most cotton candy version I have ever heard in my life. There wasn't a vengeful bone in his body? Then why did he whip the money changers? You obviously did not click on the link I supplied. So I'll post some of the highlights here.

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The Jesus I know, the Jesus I love, is uniformly kind, caring, sacrificial, wise, supernaturally powerful. Ive read the gospels regularly for over a year now and have found this Jesus reliably present. But now, for some reason, as I turn the crinkling, red-and-black inked pages in the lighting booth, a new, sterner Jesus suddenly and forcefully comes into view. A Jesus who is unhelpful. Intentionally confusing. Rude.

When Jesus saw the crowd around Him, He gave orders to cross to the other side of the lake. Then a teacher of the law came to Him and said, Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go.” Jesus replied, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.” Another disciple said to Him, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead” (Matthew 8:18–22).

This is not the Jesus I know, not the Great Lover, the Provider of My Every Need. My Jesus is desperate to save souls. He is desirous of helping people receive His love. He is passionate for everybody, and He is so glad when we acknowledge that passion and dwell in it. He is happy when we are happy. But is the Jesus in these passages that same figure?

I am fine with Jesus being critical of His criticizers. He is hard on the Pharisees and Sadducees because they are legalists who want to control people. I cheer Jesus on as He chastises them and uses their own Scriptures against them. I even understand why he pledges to bring not peace but a sword to the earth. He says He has come to turn family members against one another, that households will be torn apart because of Him. I can appreciate this because I have seen it happen — friends who accept Jesus against their parents agnostic will, and such.

But Jesus harsh criticisms also reach into places I do not expect. After one parable, Jesus’ friend Peter asks for an explanation. “Are you still so dull?” Jesus snaps. Worse, Jesus appears to dishonor His own family. Once when someone tells Jesus that His mother and brothers are standing outside and waiting to see Him, Jesus replies, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” He suggests that His true family is “whoever does the will of my Father in heaven” (Matthew 12:46–50). I see His point, but does He have to ignore His mom? And how does this fit with my understanding of a God who wants everyone to be a part of a loving family, a God who focuses on the family and wants us to do the same?

Turning more crinkly pages, I read — as if for the first time — the story of Jesus calling a Canaanite woman a dog. She cries out to Him to deliver her daughter of demonic possession. Jesus did not answer a word,” says Matthew (15:23). The Great lover ignores her cries. The woman doesn’t let up, and finally, Jesus’ disciples beg Him to do something to shut her up. “Send her away,” they plead. “She keeps crying after us.” Jesus will have none of it. Why? Because the woman isn’t a Jew. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Even when the woman forces her way to Jesus, kneels at His feet, and cries, “Lord, help me!” Jesus is unmoved. “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs,” He says.
No, not says. He mutters. He snipes. He sneers. I try to imagine the way He must have spoken to her. Could He have said it lovingly? Please oh God, show me how He must have said this lovingly. But I know He didnt.

It’s right there on the page, plain to see. I’ve read Matthew a hundred times and never noticed it, but tonight it is leaping from the page.
Fortunately, the Gentile dog is ready with a witty retort. Yes, Lord, but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
Jesus likes this. Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” Her daughter, adds Matthew, was healed that very hour.

He rewards her faith in spite of her ethnicity. Maybe it is all about faith, but this kind of faith, faith-as-token, faith-as-ticket, is not what I expected from my journey into faith, not what I expected from Jesus.
Theres more. Jesus doesn’t always appear to want people to understand His parables (Matthew 13). So far from trying desperately to help people understand that He is the Savior of their souls, Jesus obscures the truth. He predicts quick death and destruction for people who won’t believe the disciples’ preaching (Matthew 10). He cries out against the cities that don’t repent after He performs miracles (Matthew 11).

I can make sense of some of this. Of course Jesus is mad at people who dont repent after He heals diseases right before their eyes. Of course He becomes frustrated with the silly disciples who have to be told everything ten, twenty, fifty times before they get it. But still, on the basis of everything else I’ve learned about Jesus from CCM and Quiet Time devotionals, the gospels are nothing short of scandalous. Jesus storms through the pages of Matthew in a way I have never seen before, and I am frightened by it. My stomach clenches. I would cry if I were not so horrified. Why has this stuff not been explained to me? I am attending a Christian university. We should be talking about this!


But maybe the problem is that my biblical vision has been veiled.





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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 07:13 AM

We are not Jesus, the things that Jesus did through out his life where his to do. No where did I read in Matthew Do as I do Not as I say. I do remember this passage very well though as I stated before,,, it is the King James Version Now


It is writen...

Luke 6:27-37 (King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.


I only Dislike some words that feel as they are hateful towards others of any race, religion etc... This is the veiw of many people that do not fully understand what you believe. Of course what you believe is different from what I have come to believe and Im sorry you can not change my mind, nor can I change yours. But I am open to hearing what other Christians believe and this is why I am here.
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We are not Jesus, the things that Jesus did through out his life where his to do. No where did I read in Matthew Do as I do Not as I say. I do remember this passage very well though as I stated before,,, it is the King James Version Now
Oh so now we're NOT supposed to take Jesus as an example. Just how much white-out do you go through in a year?


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It is writen...

Luke 6:27-37 (King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.
So according to you, we're just supposed to stand idly by and let people go to hell? Do you think God is going to accept that as an answer when you stand before him? Read the entire Bible.

I noticed that you didn't even read the entire chapter....

22Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

26Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

(Personally I would like to be rebuked by a True Christian™ if I am wrong, it keeps me on the narrow path)

39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
43For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
44For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
48He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
49But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.


Where is your house built, that you do not follow all of HIS words?




I only Dislike some words that feel as they are hateful towards others of any race, religion etc... This is the veiw of many people that do not fully understand what you believe. Of course what you believe is different from what I have come to believe and Im sorry you can not change my mind, nor can I change yours. But I am open to hearing what other Christians believe and this is why I am here.[/QUOTE]


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We are not Jesus, the things that Jesus did through out his life where his to do. No where did I read in Matthew Do as I do Not as I say.
No? Nothing from Matthew on that subject?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 07:52 AM

I would like to go though each passage and explain what I have come to believe about each one if you will. Please feel free to explain your view to me. I will take your word on the passages being correct, I'm quite tired and do not feel like cross checking at this point.

blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Blessed you are when people call you names, and call you evil.

23Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

rejoice when the day comes you are blessed

26Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

Be carefull not to get a big head when everyone tells you you are always right.


38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
what ever you have given to others in life you will be given back the same.

39And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
Jesus told a parable, the sinner can not lead the sinner.

40The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
No one is above Jesus.


42Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
Do not cast stones because you are not perfect yourself. Do not try to clear someone elses eyes if your eyes are cloudy.

43For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
A truely good person does not bring forth evil nor does an evil person bring forth good.

44For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

God knows what is in your heart..

46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
pretty self expanitory

47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
god willh put you with those that hear his sayings and do as he says.

48He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
Jesus built his house upon a rock that can not be shaken or destroyed. (not literally)

49But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

he that does not do what Jesus says is doomed.

I believe he was talking about the previous passages that I posted before that came before these words.
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I would like to go though each passage and explain what I have come to believe about each one if you will. Please feel free to explain your view to me. I will take your word on the passages being correct, I'm quite tired and do not feel like cross checking at this point.
You show your ignorance of the Word with every post you make.

2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 08:30 AM

this will be the last post i will make on the subject, Im not here to Inflame you as I said im only here to learn. I can see this as a touchy subject for you.

taken from your last post. 2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


This passage is the word of God not to be interprited in a different way then what it says correct?

Why do you not follow Gods words in this scripture?

36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Is this not the words of god as well as what you speak? Is there anything that I have taken from the King James bible not the word of God?

In anycase I am sorry If I offended anyone I will not bother you again with this. I do love you all as Gods children and I do not judge, its not my place to judge anyone for that is Gods alone to do.

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this will be the last post i will make on the subject, Im not here to Inflame you as I said im only here to learn. I can see this as a touchy subject for you.

taken from your last post. 2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


This passage is the word of God not to be interprited in a different way then what it says correct?

Why do you not follow Gods words in this scripture?

36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.
Does not God condemn people for not doing the right thing? Does not God judge people? So how are we not being as merciful as God?

As for the judging not, well it means that we will be judged to the standards that we judge others. Why else would he command us to Judge others?

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


2nd Timothy 4:2-5 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

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Is this not the words of god as well as what you speak? Is there anything that I have taken from the King James bible not the word of God?
Yes it is the word of God, but you're cherry picking and quote mining. You are not looking at the whole Bible, you are ignoring the scripture that we have posted because it doesn't fit into your fuzzy bunny view of God.

You have basically created a God in your own image and are picking out scripture that backs up your ideal and ignoring the rest.

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In anycase I am sorry If I offended anyone I will not bother you again with this. I do love you all as Gods children and I do not judge, its not my place to judge anyone for that is Gods alone to do.

Thank you for your time.
As I said, I have more hope for an atheist homosexual because they KNOW they are not following God. At least we can show them the truth and they will either accept it or not.

Liebral Christians just take the white out to the Bible. If anything goes and all sins are forgiven, why do we need the Bible at all? Hey, just throw the whole thing out, after all, God will forgive us anyway.


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this will be the last post i will make on the subject, Im not here to Inflame you as I said im only here to learn. I can see this as a touchy subject for you.

taken from your last post. 2 Peter 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


This passage is the word of God not to be interprited in a different way then what it says correct?

Why do you not follow Gods words in this scripture?
No, keep going. False Christians are my favorite food.

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36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.
Why do you continue to cherrypick verses? Luke 6 clearly goes on to say that this has to do with hypocritical judgment. It is consistent with the other Gospels when it tells us.

Luke 6:41-42 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

There is no beam in mine eye, friend.


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Now, I am no Bible Scholar like Brother Levi, I am just a simple country man. But I do take great offense and being called a racist. I hire messicans and nigras, in fact 95% of my employees are of shines or wetbacks. I have people work as God prescribes. So if that means a darkie is a stable boy, it is because God says that is his job.
Now if the American language upsets you, I am sorry but there is little I can do about it. Tell me friend, when I say wetback, you know exactly what kind of person I am speaking about. I am not one to hem and haw, playing the 'political correctness' game. I call a spade a spade.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: LBC - 05-26-2010, 12:19 PM

Sir,

I must ask, did you read the introduction thread for newcomers? If so, you will know that the Landover Baptist Church principle rule is to follow the whole Holy Bible, because this is the rule of God him self.

For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

~ Romans 15:4


Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

~ II Peter 1:20-21


Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
~ Deuteronomy 4:2


To not simply give quotes out of perspective, just to win an argument, but to honestly quote and spread the word of God, to his standard, so that people will learn a measure of his wisdom, and understand their part in his plan, and find salvation with God, and salvation with Jesus, piss be upon him. It is wrong to follow the Holy Bible in part, and the Holy Bible makes this clear. You understand, that the Law, the Scripture, and the Gospel are the foundation of the Christian belief, yes? Approved, blessed, and made sacred by Jesus himself, piss be upon him; he himself said,

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

~ Matthew 5:17-19


Do you think this Church lies or twists scripture? If not, good. If so, you need to prove it, or it is empty words.

You will find that False Christians quote out of context, and, more or less, tear out sacred pages of the Holy Bible that they do not like, or that do not fit in with their own imaginings. In pride, they pick and choose what parts of the Holy Bible they desire, and instead of correcting their own faults, they seek to find fault with God, and his word. They are as damned as those who are honest about their lack of belief.

Jesus said,

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

~ Matthew 7:13-14


You will find that True Christians live and die by their word, for it is the word of God. You will find they are Champions of the Christ, in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. You will find they revere the Holy Bible, in which God has bound us to his will, and given us wisdom and prudence. In which God has made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he has purposed within himself, for he is most wise.

Jesus said,

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
~ John 17:17


The Gospel of the Christ, piss be upon him, and the prophecy and wisdom contained in the Holy Bible is the power of God, and salvation to every one that hears it and believes, for within it we learn the way for sinners to become righteous and salvation is revealed, for all to believe, so as to escape the punishment of a violated law. I would ask you to read more of the Holy Bible before you make claim to be an authority of what it contains, and before you pass judgment on those who revere the Word of God above all else, and before you make more of a fool out of your self.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

~ II Thessalonians 2:7-12


The Holy Bible is the undisputable word of God, voiced through the Prophets, and our Lord Jesus, the Christ, peace be upon them. In God alone, we worship. In God alone, we ask for advice. In God alone, we are shown the true path. In God alone, we trust, to set us on the straight path, on which we walk, so that we may join with him again in his Kingdom; not those who invoke his wrath, nor those who go astray. For this path is predetermined, for God is most wise, great, master of our judgment.

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

~ Ephesians 1:10-12


We speak to you of the Truth, in the hopes that you acknowledge your transgressions, repent in the blood of the Christ, and join us True Christians in the Kingdom of God.

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Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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