[Levi Jones]

Amen!

[HonestJohn]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Tell us how you came to find Jesus.

I was always under the impression that Jesus was NOT lost thus he does
not need to be FOUND, only to be followed.

[Alvin Moss]

Well, Mr Smarty Pants, don't you have to find Him and accept Him to follow His teachings?

Are you a Christian or one of those smart atheists who likes to stop in to dazzle us with his witty repartee?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by HonestJohn

I was always under the impression that Jesus was NOT lost thus he does
not need to be FOUND, only to be followed.

Smart alecks are shown the door.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Next they should do a study where they have people look at the sky and then ask them what color it is. They can then report on how cultural messages about the sky being blue have created an unconscious bias in people that prevents them from seeing the sky as it really is: pink.

[Greencountry]

Hello all.
I must admit, I stumbled upon this brilliant thread while searching for something to post in a similar vain on another Christian board.

Have you guys ever heard of the of great men such as Comparet and Swift?

They do not see any place for the apes among Christians at all ...indeed Christ said, Mat 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Then He says " It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs."
So he essentially calls a canaanite woman a dog and says that He is not sent for her, the dog people (modern jewry).

Mat 13:24 ...The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Jude also understands this:
Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Scripture or it didn't happen. There is no account in Genesis of God making any other Man but Adam, Adam means to be ruddy, to show blood in the face; white. God's Law is 'kind after kind' so Adam cannot be the father of all 'men' ...apes, grasshoppers and snakes do not come from men. Indeed the others have broken that law, being mongrelized; they are the tares sown amongst the wheat by the enemy.
Their fate:

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink...

or

Mat 13:30 ...Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

The Covenant was only for one group of people, and was only renewed with the -same- group of people through Christ. Jeremiah confirms this:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Paul, the apostle of the Nations, never sent an epistle to non-Adamic 'nations', if they can be so called. He is only concerned with the Nations that derived from Abraham's seed. Not the seed of the enemy.

I am sure many of you have heard of such teachings before.

[Pim Pendergast]

Hello, Greencountry, and welcome to the forum. Please start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus. Also, I couldn't help but notice a few inaccuracies in your post.

Originally Posted by Greencountry

So he essentially calls a Canaanite woman a dog and says that He is not sent for her, the dog people (modern jewry).

The Canaanite woman was a Canaanite, not a modern Jew.

Scripture or it didn't happen. There is no account in Genesis of God making any other Man but Adam, Adam means to be ruddy, to show blood in the face; white.

Adam means "man," but it is related to the word "ruddy," which means red.

God's Law is 'kind after kind' so Adam cannot be the father of all 'men' ...apes, grasshoppers and snakes do not come from men. Indeed the others have broken that law, being mongrelized; they are the tares sown amongst the wheat by the enemy.

Adam is the father of all races. The Bible clearly describes Noah's descent from Adam (Gen 5). The slave races are descended from Ham, Noah's son, whom Noah cursed (Gen 9).

The Covenant was only for one group of people, and was only renewed with the -same- group of people through Christ. Jeremiah confirms this:

The Covenant was made with Abraham. We Christians are children of Abraham.

Gal 3:6-9
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Paul, the apostle of the Nations, never sent an epistle to non-Adamic 'nations',

It would have been difficult not to, since all nations are descended from Adam.

if they can be so called. He is only concerned with the Nations that derived from Abraham's seed. Not the seed of the enemy.

Abraham's seed was Jesus.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

I am sure many of you have heard of such teachings before.

I have. But here we don't twist Scripture to suit our own agenda. We believe that Canaanites were dogs and the children of Ham have been cursed to perpetual slavery, not because that's what we want to believe but because that's what the Bible tells us.

[Greencountry]

I just noticed that it says I am 'unsaved'.

"All Israel shall be saved". Romans 11:26.

By His Grace. We cannot bring our own salvation, He chooses us. He chose Abraham and his seed.

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Greencountry

I just noticed that it says I am 'unsaved'.

"All Israel shall be saved". Romans 11:26.

By His Grace. We cannot bring our own salvation, He chooses us. He chose Abraham and his seed.

All noobs are presumed unsaved till proven otherwise. Again, please start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Greencountry

"All Israel shall be saved". Romans 11:26.

Well of course that is true. It is almost tautological. Israel means "he that striveth with God". Thus you Jews are not of Israel, since you killed God when you should have been striving with Him.

[Greencountry]

^Yes and also it is to do with the descendants of Jacob/Israel. He chose Israel and His seed. You don't magically become Abraham's seed.

I will post my introduction in a minute. Just wanted to reply to something first.

The Canaanite woman was a Canaanite, not a modern Jew.

The jews themselves acknowledge that edom is in modern jewry (encyclopedia judaica), edom is mixed with the canaanites, there are several tribes from his loins. The arabs also, they are also mixed, indeed arab means to be mixed, for which one may see Strong’s Hebrew lexicon numbers 6148, 6150, 6151, and 6154. It is the reason for the color of their skin.

Adam means "man," but it is related to the word "ruddy," which means red.

From a learned scholar;
The word adam in Hebrew means rosy, to be able to blush, or to see the blood through one’s skin. This is quite the way that Dr. James Strong defined the word in his Concordance well over 100 years ago. As an adjective, it is ruddy, and it is used in that manner in descriptions of King David found at 1 Samuel 16:12, 17:42, of King Solomon at Song of Sol. 5:10, and of the Nazirites described by Jeremiah at Lamentations 4:7: “Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire”. Only White men could possibly ever be described as being ruddy. The word adam means ruddy because the Hebrew word dam (Strong’s #1818) means blood.

Adam is the father of all races. The Bible clearly describes Noah's descent from Adam (Gen 5). The slave races are descended from Ham, Noah's son, whom Noah cursed (Gen 9).

A black cannot come from a white, this would break the Law of kind after kind. This is heretical and impossible.

The Covenant was made with Abraham. We Christians are children of Abraham.

Abraham and his seed, it is racial. Seed means the descendants of Abraham. Indeed the first Christians were the seed of Abraham.

The word seed, in most cases; “(zera‘). Sowing, seed, offspring. Its usages fall into four basic semantic categories: 1. The time of sowing, seedtime; 2. the seed as that which is scattered or as the product of what is sown; 3. the seed as semen and 4. the Seed as the offspring in the promised line of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob or in other groups separate from this people of promise.”
The word 'generation' also has similar connotations with race, but it would be a long investigation.

It does not mean they somehow become the 'seed of Abraham' through 'belief'. The faith is only for the seed of Abraham, the Covenant is only with the seed of Abraham, his descendants, forever.

Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

Not everyone who believes somehow becomes your seed, but your seed after thee, generation after generation. The Covenant is not with a 'spiritual seed', this is a twisting of Scripture. Scripture never says or implies this.


7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Heathen can be translated as 'nations'. Abraham is the Father of many Nations.

It would have been difficult not to, since all nations are descended from Adam.

This is impossible, this would require a breaking of God's Law. Race-mixing is condemned many times in the Bible. Unless you are saying that only Adamic nations are actually nations, which is true.

Abraham's seed was Jesus.

Abraham's seed is a race, Jesus was a Kinsman Redeemer. He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel.

I have. But here we don't twist Scripture to suit our own agenda. We believe that Canaanites were dogs and the children of Ham have been cursed to perpetual slavery, not because that's what we want to believe but because that's what the Bible tells us.

You are twisting Scripture to suit your 'everybody can be a Christian' agenda, everyone can be 'saved'. It is marxist in nature and contrary to Scripture.

[Greencountry]

'noobs considered unsaved' ...where is that exactly. Scripture or it doesn't exist.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by Greencountry

'noobs considered unsaved' ...where is that exactly. Scripture or it doesn't exist.

Ever heard of microwaves, sports fan?

YIC

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

Well of course that is true. It is almost tautological. Israel means "he that striveth with God". Thus you Jews are not of Israel, since you killed God when you should have been striving with Him.

Originally Posted by Greencountry

'noobs considered unsaved' ...where is that exactly. Scripture or it doesn't exist.

Why are you ignoring my profound insights? Are you afraid that you will find Jesus?

"Scripture or it doesn't exist." So you are a figment of your own imagination. Your life must be pretty weird.

Obviously we have to screen out unsaved people to protect our children from being raped by atheists or Muslims until they bleed to death out of every hole in their body. You are now even more suspect because you pretend not to understand the need for this precaution, as though you wanted us to let our guard down and just let unsaved people waltz right into our children's bedrooms.

You, sir, disgust me.

How are we supposed to obey 2nd Chronicles if we don't vet people who claim to be saved? Psychic powers and wizardry are prohibited.

2nd Chronicles19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

[Greencountry]

It is ok if I disgust you, I am unconcerned with social-status, as was He.

I am not a sports fan. Nor am I concerned with name-calling or persecution.

I stick to Scripture because the church has distorted Scripture to push a marxist ideology wherein the jews who killed Christ are 'his chosen people' and every race is equal and all beast/devils can be 'saved'. Contradictory to His own words. He had His sheep, and they heard Him, the others amongst the crowd, the edomites were told that they have a different father.

John 8:44

I would not give the Holy to the dogs nor cast my pearls before swine. I would not speak to a non-white person.

[Greencountry]

I don't claim to be saved ...this is the promise of Scripture. I am the seed of Abraham, by race. I put my faith in His Name, in His propitiation, I die with him, I am baptized in His death and will be restored as one of His people. The perfect day.

Fulfilling the Law, that all Israel was guilty of death, and the prophecy of Jeremiah that a new Covenant would be given to the house of Israel and Judah through Christ.

Praise Christ.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by Greencountry

I would not give the Holy to the dogs nor cast my pearls before swine. I would not speak to a non-white person.

What an evil thing to say:

Mark 16:15-16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

It is our duty to teach Salvation® to everyone, even if they are negroidal.

Shame on you, young lady.

YIC

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Greencountry

The jews themselves acknowledge that edom is in modern jewry (encyclopedia judaica), edom is mixed with the canaanites, there are several tribes from his loins. The arabs also, they are also mixed, indeed arab means to be mixed, for which one may see Strong’s Hebrew lexicon numbers 6148, 6150, 6151, and 6154. It is the reason for the color of their skin.

Well, that's not in the Bible. If the Bible meant modern Jews were dogs, it would have said "modern Jews" and not "Canaanite."

From a learned scholar . . .

Please link to your source when you quote. I found a definition of "Adam" as well.

In 19th century scholarship, "Adam" (Hebrew: אָדָם) was linked with the triliteral root אָדַם ( 'ADM ), meaning "red", "fair", "handsome".[5] In the Book of Genesis, Adam occurs as a proper name (in chapters 2–5). As a masculine noun, 'adam [6] means "man", "mankind" usually in a collective context as in humankind,[5] and may also refer to the individual human.[7] The noun 'adam is also the masculine form of the word adamah which means "ground" or "earth". It is related to the words: adom (red), admoni (ruddy), and dam (blood).[8]

You are twisting Scripture to suit your 'everybody can be a Christian' agenda, everyone can be 'saved'. It is marxist in nature and contrary to Scripture.

People of all nations can be saved. True, it's not easy for the lesser races, but nothing is impossible for our omnipotent God. You are ignoring passages like:

Gal 3:26-29
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

You must take Scripture as a whole. God's Word will not be twisted to suit an individual's agenda. An individual must be twisted to suit God's agenda.

I'm just trying to give you some friendly advice.

Prov 15:32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

[Greencountry]

Mark 16:15-16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

This is a known interpolation, it does not appear in the ancient manuscripts.

From Bill Fincks website:

We know that in the last chapter of Mark, verses 9-20 were not in the original transcript of the apostle Mark, and when you consider these added verses, we see that they do not harmonize with the first eight verses, and are the first indication that Christianity was to be a universal religion, quote, ‘and preach the gospel to every creature.’ I believe that this was part of the betrayal, to justify Paul’s claim that he was commissioned to go to the Gentiles. We know that Jesus Christ never commanded His Disciples to go to the Gentiles, or for that matter to every creature. He commanded to only go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel!

Also, females tend to have difficulty assessing words logically and ad rem, instead they make bitchy little comments ...as you are doing. You are a fool, and a pork-eater. I will not put my wise words before a fool such as yourself ...from now on I will ignore your stupidity.

@Pim
Canaanites are jews, they say this themselves!, you are just going around in circles. The reason the Bible doesn't say it this way is because at the time 'Judahite' became a geographical identifier rather than a tribal identifier. So all races of people who lived in Judea could be referred to as jews.

Pim, I recently started learning about CI, I was previously Catholic. I am sure you would have great difficulty with men such as Clifton Emahiser or Bill Finck, you won't stand a chance. I challenge you to try and refute their assertions on Adam, the Covenants and the Propitiation ...I am sure you will heed their wise instruction.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

This is a known interpolation, it does not appear in the ancient manuscripts.

We follow the KJV1611. Anything else is idiocy. God agrees with this otherwise He would have changed the wording.

Are you saying God could not do this? Has your obvious racism caused you to flout God's Word so much that you imagine Him to be some ineffectual doofus who cannot get His message to True Christians™ around the world?

God bless