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Lightbulb Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 12-31-2017, 07:38 AM

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I have.

Does that mean I now have to believe that the sun is cool and the earth flat?
Yes. Except that the Sun in very hot. Its temperature is exactly 5039.6 K. But you have to accept Jesus wholly to be Saved®.

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 01-01-2018, 12:25 PM

It's ridiculous really. The sun is yellow. A senior Pastor has shown us the calculation. The sun is about 5,000K. Now most people have stood by a fire in winter and noticed that the closer in you are the hotter it gets. A fire a mile away is not very warming, but one burning at 5,000K? So I looked up some temperatures. Red hot molten iron is about one thousand and white hot tungsten about three times that. A blacksmith has no trouble heating iron up by burning wood, or charcoal or something like that so a large red hot stump thrown on a campfire gives an approximate example.

Say if you were a foot away? Yes, pretty hot. Could you stand a yard away, to do some toast say? No. What about a mile away? Yes, I think that would be OK. But these "scientists" claim the sun is ninety-three million miles away yet heats up Australia to 120°? And Arabia? I've never been to the Sahara but I think it gets pretty hot there too and these places are much larger than a piece of toast. The sun could not be so far away and still produce these effects. It is time to remove "science based" evidence from all government funded projects, the evidence is all in by now and it's just one fail after another. God has explained this for us: stars are attached to The Firmament, they do not "orbit" anything and the world is fixed securely to pillars just as Heaven is secured in place above us. If it were no so, where did Jesus go to when He ascended as witnessed and recorded in Acts?
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10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 01-01-2018, 02:46 PM

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Going to the ends of the earth means going basically to far flung places.
Oh... so you are the one with the "magic decoding ring"? The one who knows exactly what God is saying? And everyone else is "wrong".

Well, friend, wake up and smell the manna - we here at Landover were born and brought up in True Christianity, and so I think we can say that we know a little bit more than you...





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Jesus Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-05-2018, 06:58 PM

Amen, completely true, here another scriptural proof from brother Jason Jack who lives in Birmingham in Sweet Home Alabama:

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-07-2018, 11:48 PM

I wanted to attend the recent Flat Earth Society convention in England but my schedule did not allow it. I've been looking forward to a review of the papers and seminars. Anyone can see it was a powerful step forward in establishing the truth of our flat earth. Attendees came from across the flat earth representing many countries.

There were lots of experiments and demonstrations to show the impossibility of the real round earth. You could see water flowing out when a pan was tipped and lots more. Besides science, the powerful argument against round earth is that it comes from our enemies, liberals, scientists and government agencies. We know who we can trust and it is not them.

The popularity of this first ever conference means we are gaining. It's just a matter of time before the laughable notion of a "globe" is in the dust bin of history:

https://www.realclearscience.com/art...on_110636.html


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-03-2019, 11:35 PM

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Yes. Except that the Sun in very hot. Its temperature is exactly 5039.6 K. But you have to accept Jesus wholly to be Saved®.

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Earth is round there is alot of evidence for it and I have that evidence
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Earth is round there is alot of evidence for it and I have that evidence
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-03-2019, 11:47 PM

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And a quarter is round, too -- round and FLAT!!
The earth is not round like quarter its round like an oblate spheroid
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-04-2019, 12:01 AM

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Where is that proof? In exactly which verse of the Bible?


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An "oblate spheroid"? What on Earth ...?? My Dear, this notion of a round or spherical planet has been going on for a very long time. But, clearly, Earth is flat and I'm afraid that's just the way God made it. I have friends in Melbourne, Australia and they say they never feel like they're going to skid off, and they never complain of headaches from standing upside down. Oh, I know ... you will talk about gravity which, I suppose, is an interesting concept, even though it sounds like a bunch of New Age mumbo-jumbo. And that's why so many of us home-school our children, so we can rescue them from such extreme notions that only pollute their young minds! Best of luck to you, and I hope you'll see the truth in this. If you're not saved yet, may I recommend giving your life to Jesus so that He can help you to see what's so clearly in the Bible, and that is: Earth is flat! Sincerely, Isabella W. Job 38:13 "That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?" (KJV)




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Where is that proof? In exactly which verse of the Bible?
Isaiah 40:22 says that God sits above the CIRCLE of earth


While their is no Hebrew word for sphere Khoog which is translated circle circuit compass is the closest. Because God is omnipresent he looks upon the earth from every direction.


Therefore from God's heavenly perspective the earth would appear round from every perspective since it's a sphere


If the earth were flat then from most angles the earth would appear as an oval or even a straight line therefore Isaiah 40:22 indicates a spherical earth


Also Jesus said For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish so will the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40)


A person can not be in a the heart of a flat circle because it wouldnt be deep enough


Luke 17:34-46 also implies a spherical earth. Jesus said that his return would be asleep at night while others would be working at day time activities in the field. This is clear indication of a revolving Earth with day and night occurring simultaneously.


In addition Job 26:7 explains that the Earth is suspended in space the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. See Job 26:10 and Proverbs 8:27 for more on this
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Your taking that verse out of context

Gravity isnt mumbo jumbo Gravity exists
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Isaiah 40:22 says that God sits above the CIRCLE of earth


While their is no Hebrew word for sphere Khoog which is translated circle circuit compass is the closest. Because God is omnipresent he looks upon the earth from every direction.


Therefore from God's heavenly perspective the earth would appear round from every perspective since it's a sphere


If the earth were flat then from most angles the earth would appear as an oval or even a straight line therefore Isaiah 40:22 indicates a spherical earth


Also Jesus said For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish so will the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40)


A person can not be in a the heart of a flat circle because it wouldnt be deep enough


Luke 17:34-46 also implies a spherical earth. Jesus said that his return would be asleep at night while others would be working at day time activities in the field. This is clear indication of a revolving Earth with day and night occurring simultaneously.


In addition Job 26:7 explains that the Earth is suspended in space the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. See Job 26:10 and Proverbs 8:27 for more on this
No, my failed friend. Those are indications of a dome. A dome above the flat Earth. Think again about this, read again, and you will see. While you read again, pray for God to enlighten you, to give you better understanding.


How indoctrinated are you by the atheist masses posing as scientific just to gather souls for Satan!


You forgot one verse:


Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.



Our Earth is round and has 4 corners, something achievable by squaring the circle. This task is above you and me, but not behind the reach of an almighty deity. But squaring a sphere is not plausible, and therefore the Bible is describing a flat Earth, round, that will become a square when Jesus comes back to harvest our souls. And there is a big dome over us.


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Gravity isnt mumbo jumbo Gravity exists
Oh, Dear, you must be joking. Can you prove that gravity exists? I'll bet not. I notice you did not comment about my statement of how people do not skid off the planet. And what about planes that fly to Australia? Friends recently flew from Norway to Melbourne. At no time did they complain about flying upside down so obviously they were not involved in any of that spheroid thing, or whatever you said earlier. Are you born again? Do you know the Lord as your personal Savior? If not, you're in the right place, seeking out the advice and fellowship of Godly KJV Bible believers who follow the Lord on a very straight and narrow path. Once you give your heart to Jesus, you'll see that the Earth is flat. May God richly bless you and draw you near to Him, Dear, and may He keep you close to His bosom.




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No, my failed friend. Those are indications of a dome. A dome above the flat Earth. Think again about this, read again, and you will see. While you read again, pray for God to enlighten you, to give you better understanding.


How indoctrinated are you by the atheist masses posing as scientific just to gather souls for Satan!


You forgot one verse:


Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.



Our Earth is round and has 4 corners, something achievable by squaring the circle. This task is above you and me, but not behind the reach of an almighty deity. But squaring a sphere is not plausible, and therefore the Bible is describing a flat Earth, round, that will become a square when Jesus comes back to harvest our souls. And there is a big dome over us.
I'm not indoctrinated by athiests. The person I learned that the earth was round from is actually a Christian so.....


There are a lot of Christians who teach that the earth was round. The guy who debated Bill Nye Ken Ham who is a Christian and is associated with answers in genesis is a believer in sphere earth!


The bible is not describing a flat earth I just gave you biblical proof that it wasnt but your denying it because you dont like being wrong


The Earth is curved we can tell because their is a time difference of three hours between the east and west coasts of the United states. That is the sun rises and sets approximately three hours earlier on the east and west coast of the USA. Not only will your watch show their is a time difference but your body will to. If the earth was flat then that wouldnt be possible.


Hulls of ships disappear before their masts the reason why ships appear instantly when they sail from far away is because the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat that would be impossible!
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Oh, Dear, you must be joking. Can you prove that gravity exists? I'll bet not. I notice you did not comment about my statement of how people do not skid off the planet. And what about planes that fly to Australia? Friends recently flew from Norway to Melbourne. At no time did they complain about flying upside down so obviously they were not involved in any of that spheroid thing, or whatever you said earlier. Are you born again? Do you know the Lord as your personal Savior? If not, you're in the right place, seeking out the advice and fellowship of Godly KJV Bible believers who follow the Lord on a very straight and narrow path. Once you give your heart to Jesus, you'll see that the Earth is flat. May God richly bless you and draw you near to Him, Dear, and may He keep you close to His bosom.
Gravity exists and has been proven to exist by Newtons Law of gravity and is an old issue people dont fuss over anymore because we've been there done that.


Earth is not flat and has never been flat. Didnt you even read my post and all of the biblical evidence?
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I'm not indoctrinated by athiests. The person I learned that the earth was round from is actually a Christian so.....


There are a lot of Christians who teach that the earth was round. The guy who debated Bill Nye Ken Ham who is a Christian and is associated with answers in genesis is a believer in sphere earth!


The bible is not describing a flat earth I just gave you biblical proof that it wasnt but your denying it because you dont like being wrong


The Earth is curved we can tell because their is a time difference of three hours between the east and west coasts of the United states. That is the sun rises and sets approximately three hours earlier on the east and west coast of the USA. Not only will your watch show their is a time difference but your body will to. If the earth was flat then that wouldnt be possible.


Hulls of ships disappear before their masts the reason why ships appear instantly when they sail from far away is because the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat that would be impossible!
The liberal pseudo Christian Ken Ham believes in evolution as well. Answers in Genesis is the work of the Devil. Start that path and you will become an atheist in a minute. For each Ken Ham video about how evolution started after the flood, there are countless videos of atheist proving that is imposible (and it is, but not for the reasons atheists believe) So do not start name dropping, if you do not know who's names are dropping. Even the Ark Ken Ham did, who has only a few species instead of one of each living animal, and also cannot float at all, is a "living proof" Genesis is wrong... if we believe in Ken Ham. And losing a debate with that fake scientist from TV is something really really lame.


The Earth is round, yes. Spheric? No. Ships disappearing? C'mon, the old NASA lies will not make an effect on us. Oceans have waves, you know? Now you see it, now you don't. It is not a magical sphere filled with "gravity", you know?


You have to come with something better than that. We Christians believe the Earth and humans to be the center of God's creation, not some sort of randomly generated life form in a lost rock in the middle of a galaxy otherwise pretty much hostile to life in every sense. What would be the sense of creating a huge galaxy only to put your best creation on a tiny, tiny sphere in the middle of nowhere?


Also: the Bible says the Earth is flat. If the Bible would have said otherwise, people would have "discovered" the globe thousands of years before the Copernicus lie.


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Gravity exists and has been proven to exist by Newtons Law of gravity and is an old issue people dont fuss over anymore because we've been there done that.


Earth is not flat and has never been flat. Didnt you even read my post and all of the biblical evidence?
Dear, you are right about one thing: I did not read much of those verses because it is obvious you were not quoting from the one and only true source of Holy Scriptures: The 1611 King James Version. Praise God! Other versions, paraphrasing, gobbledygook, etc. are not within the teachings of Landover Baptist Church and, therefore, I turn an eye to any and all non-1611 KJV references. Kindly repent before it is too late.




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Isaiah 40:22 says that God sits above the CIRCLE of earth


While their is no Hebrew word for sphere Khoog which is translated circle circuit compass is the closest. Because God is omnipresent he looks upon the earth from every direction.


Therefore from God's heavenly perspective the earth would appear round from every perspective since it's a sphere


If the earth were flat then from most angles the earth would appear as an oval or even a straight line therefore Isaiah 40:22 indicates a spherical earth


Also Jesus said For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish so will the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40)


A person can not be in a the heart of a flat circle because it wouldnt be deep enough


Luke 17:34-46 also implies a spherical earth. Jesus said that his return would be asleep at night while others would be working at day time activities in the field. This is clear indication of a revolving Earth with day and night occurring simultaneously.


In addition Job 26:7 explains that the Earth is suspended in space the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. See Job 26:10 and Proverbs 8:27 for more on this
Yes there is AND it's used by Isaiah in chapter 22! Thus we know he had a word to use but he didn't. He used a different word when describing the earth.

Isaiah 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.

Circle in this context means "the whole extent of" as perhaps one's circle of friends or when referring to someone moving in political circles. There have also been references to God marking out a circle on the waters before raising up the vault we call "the sky" to separate the waters above it from those below. That it immaterial here, however.

So we know the world is not ball shaped. Obviously it's not smooth what with mountains and cliffs and chasms opening up. There's a variety of shapes it could be but all of them need to conform with the principle of sufficiently high altitudes enabling ALL OF IT to be visible at the same time.
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The liberal pseudo Christian Ken Ham believes in evolution as well. Answers in Genesis is the work of the Devil. Start that path and you will become an atheist in a minute. For each Ken Ham video about how evolution started after the flood, there are countless videos of atheist proving that is imposible (and it is, but not for the reasons atheists believe) So do not start name dropping, if you do not know who's names are dropping. Even the Ark Ken Ham did, who has only a few species instead of one of each living animal, and also cannot float at all, is a "living proof" Genesis is wrong... if we believe in Ken Ham. And losing a debate with that fake scientist from TV is something really really lame.


The Earth is round, yes. Spheric? No. Ships disappearing? C'mon, the old NASA lies will not make an effect on us. Oceans have waves, you know? Now you see it, now you don't. It is not a magical sphere filled with "gravity", you know?


You have to come with something better than that. We Christians believe the Earth and humans to be the center of God's creation, not some sort of randomly generated life form in a lost rock in the middle of a galaxy otherwise pretty much hostile to life in every sense. What would be the sense of creating a huge galaxy only to put your best creation on a tiny, tiny sphere in the middle of nowhere?


Also: the Bible says the Earth is flat. If the Bible would have said otherwise, people would have "discovered" the globe thousands of years before the Copernicus lie.
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