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Which takes, skill, smarts, and is right more than most of the time.
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12-03-2010, 11:42 PM
Because, I don't think there is a heaven, asking me if I want to go to heaven and is a completely pointless question.
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Because, I don't think there is a heaven, asking me if I want to go to heaven and is a completely pointless question.
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No, you KNOW there is a Heaven like you KNOW there is a God. You just refuse to admit it out of pure petty spite because you hate God. As my original post PROVES Atheism is an utterly corrupt philosophy with no based in Biblical fact or Christian reasoning. Point #3 of my ten points sums it all up. I dare you to refute point #3.
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Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism -
12-04-2010, 12:38 AM
@ Bobby-Joe We should make T-shirts with point #3 on it so we can convert Atheists to Christians just by walking around.
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12-04-2010, 06:44 AM
And point number three is....? If they all sum it up then why wouldn't any part of 3 be at the bottom. Clearly you weren't thinking through and made this error
"Threw out"
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Clearly you weren't thinking through and made this error
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12-04-2010, 04:15 PM
Point number 1 is false. With you guys going around "Smite the gays, burn the jews, slaughter the muslims, etc." I don't know how you could even think about putting that there.
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Point number 1 is false. With you guys going around "Smite the gays, burn the jews, slaughter the muslims, etc." I don't know how you could even think about putting that there.
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12-09-2010, 11:06 PM
For a reason well to my knowledge, I too fail to see point #3. I shall give more prayers to Jesus to become worthy to see the opener's wisdom fully
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12-22-2010, 11:18 AM
I see point 3 quite clearly. Here is my argument against it.
There ya go. I know its a big long winded but I think I covered it all. Now I'd like to tell you all a few facts about what chrisitanity plagarised off other religons
1. Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
2. Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, "Don't cry, I'm going to heaven." when he died. As he passed he said, "It is finished."
3. Dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
4. Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
5. Osiris's son, Horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross.
6. Mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of December, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
7. Krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
8. Buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
9. Apollonius of Tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God"
Don't these all sound just a little bit familiar to you all? Christianity is a false religon because it plagarised all these other stories which were around BEFORE christianity. Game set and match atheists.
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Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism -
12-22-2010, 02:18 PM
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I see point 3 quite clearly. Here is my argument against it.
There ya go. I know its a big long winded but I think I covered it all.
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Very stylish, but not much substance there. I think you completely missed the point of that allegory about Soviet agricultural equipment that so much of BJ's point 3 rests on.
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Now I'd like to tell you all a few facts about what chrisitanity plagarised off other religons
1. Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
2. Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, "Don't cry, I'm going to heaven." when he died. As he passed he said, "It is finished."
3. Dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
4. Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
5. Osiris's son, Horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross.
6. Mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of December, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
7. Krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
8. Buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
9. Apollonius of Tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God"
Don't these all sound just a little bit familiar to you all? Christianity is a false religon because it plagarised all these other stories which were around BEFORE christianity. Game set and match atheists.
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How do you know about these stories? Were you around before Christianity? Or have historians (i.e. Marxist lunatics) told you about them? Are you taking the words of these historians on faith? Just because something's written down in a book doesn't make it true, you know.
And even if some pre-Christian religions did have those features, that still proves nothing. As an angel, Lucifer had access to God's plans, so he knew how God was going to design Christ. It would have been simple enough for him to copy a few details down and then teach primitive tribes about them in the hopes that thousands of years later, good people would be led astray by the "evidence" that these rituals produced. You see? Game, set and match to GOD.
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Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism -
12-22-2010, 06:38 PM
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Very stylish, but not much substance there. I think you completely missed the point of that allegory about Soviet agricultural equipment that so much of BJ's point 3 rests on.
How do you know about these stories? Were you around before Christianity? Or have historians (i.e. Marxist lunatics) told you about them? Are you taking the words of these historians on faith? Just because something's written down in a book doesn't make it true, you know.
And even if some pre-Christian religions did have those features, that still proves nothing. As an angel, Lucifer had access to God's plans, so he knew how God was going to design Christ. It would have been simple enough for him to copy a few details down and then teach primitive tribes about them in the hopes that thousands of years later, good people would be led astray by the "evidence" that these rituals produced. You see? Game, set and match to GOD.
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They were in the religous books of the Ancient egyptians. dated before christ was born.
Primitive tribes? These are the guys who built the pyramids and could create solid gold sculptures.
"Just because something's written down in a book doesn't make it true, you know"
I think you should heed your own advice friend.
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12-22-2010, 11:32 PM
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Nothing is shown, I am assuming you are all trying to get the point across that since I am a 'god-fear/hating atheist scum I cannot see #3' right?
What did I say about respect? Hmmm?
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I have no problem seeing point #3.
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12-22-2010, 11:47 PM
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I see point 3 quite clearly. Here is my argument against it.
There ya go. I know its a big long winded but I think I covered it all.
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They were in the religous books of the Ancient egyptians. dated before christ was born.
Primitive tribes? These are the guys who built the pyramids and could create solid gold sculptures.
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And, Saddam Hussian had solid gold toilets and you don't see anyone hailing him as the apex of civilization.
Brother Temperance brought up a very good point that Marxists likely just forged all these "ancient" religions that just happened to, surprise, surprise, pre-date and parallel Christianity. Mighty convenient ALL the facts just happen to fit their ideas. Now were have see seen that before?
Oh yes, there.
Look, as TRUE Christians we need something more that stuff written down by people living in tents in the desert who talked to invisible men.
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12-23-2010, 08:11 AM
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TL:TR
And, Saddam Hussian had solid gold toilets and you don't see anyone hailing him as the apex of civilization.
Brother Temperance brought up a very good point that Marxists likely just forged all these "ancient" religions that just happened to, surprise, surprise, pre-date and parallel Christianity. Mighty convenient ALL the facts just happen to fit their ideas. Now were have see seen that before?
Oh yes, there.
Look, as TRUE Christians we need something more that stuff written down by people living in tents in the desert who talked to invisible men.
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Isn't that what the 10 commandments were? a guy who walked into the desert and talked to an invisible man and they were you're 10 rules to follow?
See. you all seem to hate other religons saying they're false but you give the same reasons that atheists use to say you're religon is false.
Kinda funny IMO
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12-23-2010, 09:03 AM
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Isn't that what the 10 commandments were? a guy who walked into the desert and talked to an invisible man and they were you're 10 rules to follow?
See. you all seem to hate other religons saying they're false but you give the same reasons that atheists use to say you're religon is false.
Kinda funny IMO
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The 10 Commandments are the first 10 rules that God gave to Moses. I'm really not sure where the false Christians got the idea that they were the only rules in the Bible, or that their any more important than the rest of the rules.
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12-23-2010, 04:09 PM
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They were in the religous books of the Ancient egyptians. dated before christ was born.
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Have you ever read any of them yourself? Has anyone you know personally read any of them? Or have you just read something by someone who claims to have seen them? You can't just take these outrageous claims on faith, you need some real evidence. Don't be so gullible.
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12-23-2010, 04:30 PM
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Isn't that what the 10 commandments were? a guy who walked into the desert and talked to an invisible man and they were you're 10 rules to follow?
See. you all seem to hate other religons saying they're false but you give the same reasons that atheists use to say you're religon is false.
Kinda funny IMO
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Were did invisible men come into the Ten Commandments friend? It was a burning bush on a mountain and they were written on stone tablets. So unless you can show me some other law giving desert greenery with a talent for rock carving the The Commandments are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and nothing like the absurd ideas of pagans.
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12-23-2010, 05:24 PM
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Don't these all sound just a little bit familiar to you all? Christianity is a false religon because it plagarised all these other stories which were around BEFORE christianity. Game set and match atheists.
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The Devil planted those other myths so that people like you would someday be able to argue that Christianity is just plagiarized. It's just like the way the Devil plants fossils and scatters certain radioactive elements in rocks to fool so-called scientists into thinking that the Earth is billions of years old, when we know it is less than 6,000 years old.
Why do you fall for such obvious tricks?
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12-24-2010, 11:35 AM
#1 Atheists have no mercy or pity for others.
Time and time again history as shown with the Nazis, the Communists, the New Deal, the Spanish Inquisition that atheists will behave in a cruel and callous manner towards their fellow man.
not much to say but that Nazi's killed anyone who wasn't christian or something like that, and the Spanish inquisition were all piffleing Catholics who were gee hm from where? oh yeah SPAIN
#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
Only a Christian can understand that when a building collapses in an earthquake that is the hand of God slaying sinners. Atheists are willfully blind to the unconditional tough love of God for His creation. In short Atheists lack pity for those who are killed in these disasters.
Response: SCIENCE YOU UNINTELLIGIBLE APE, SCIENCE
There is no #3 cause the dumbshit baptist cant count
#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
To an Atheist A pig or a human, an ape or a human, what is the difference? For Atheists they are all products of random chance. If Atheists were true to their beliefs they would be running around naked and tossing feces at each other and eating other people. They lack the compassion for their fellow man to realize animals are just tools placed here for us to use as we see fit.
Response: Our Common ancestor was an Ape-like creature that was Bipedal, therefor we are animals
5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
One just has to look at atheists societies like ancient Rome to see they had completely different morality than the Christian society of the West now. Rome lived by a philosophy of might makes right that gave Rome the moral superiority to invade their neighbors. Contrast that with America's war of liberation in Iraq and Mexico in 1848. Christians have the morality to know when their neighbors are evil and need to be destroyed.
Response: I dont think this even deserves an answer...
#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
Sure Atheists may feel pity in their hearts of hearts but philosophically they have no reason to. Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig.
Response: Morals, everyone has them, even us god-less freaks
#7 Threw out human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.
Response: "the past was not athiests, it was christian" Thor was the god of Vikings (Norse men) they raped and pillaged and burned down christian churches, they were not christian, read a piffleing book
#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
No atheist can show us a false god who existed outside the universe so case closed.
Response: maybe we cant show you a falso god, cause may be theyre "false"? and can you show me your god? exactly
#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
Since Christianity is the Gold standard of morality all other religions just copy Christian doctrine like Islam. Atheism is younger than Christianity therefor Atheism is a mockery of Christianity.
Response: OH YOU MEAN LIKE BAPTISTS?? piffleing idiots and Athiesm ISNT A piffleING RELIGION, AND IT WAS BEFORE CHRISTIANITY YOU piffleING IDIOT
#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
No one, not the Egyptians, the Meso-Americans or even the Sumerians has a infinite God. Even Atheism doesn't have an infinite creator God.
Response: GEE athiests DONT have a god? i piffleing wonder why, and im pretty piffleing sure the other ancient religions believed theyre gods were 'eternal' seriously piffle off baptists, i beat you at your games
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you piffleing blind pieces of shit make me sick, read a piffleing book, and learn some piffleing tolerance, you people are abominations of the earth, discriminating others based on race, religion, and sexuality, it is you who should be purged from the earth, you not-existing would make this earth a much better place to live on, and do you know that beating your children makes them hate and despise you and it mentally and physically scars them for like, go piffle yourselves
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