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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 08:54 PM

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thats so funny because you frequently insult people. which is as stated earlier a violation of your code of conduct. you insist that your points are truth, and as soon as someone points out a logical shortcoming, you and many other forum members resort to racism,sexism,religious intolerance,hatred,threats of hell (which by the way is pointless to threaten to someone who dosen't believe hell exists), and the main form of religious extremeist tactics, SHOVING YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS AND HUMING LOUDLY.

oh and i've said it once i'll say it again, censory stops someone from forming their own opinion. your beleifs are based on regurgitating the information that someone has told you. you have no real opinion.

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 09:10 PM

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thats so funny because you frequently insult people. which is as stated earlier a violation of your code of conduct.
The terms apply to visitors. We can't have the hateful, liars and deceptive walking in and spreading blasphemies
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you insist that your points are truth, and as soon as someone points out a logical shortcoming, you and many other forum members resort to racism,sexism,religious intolerance,hatred,threats of hell
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i've said it once i'll say it again, censory stops someone from forming their own opinion.
I'm not sure what "censory" is, is it some sort of drug to which you are addicted?
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Everything you ever learned is someone's opinion. The language you speak is "someone's opinion" The science you think is real, is "someone's opinion."

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 09:34 PM

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Everything you ever learned is someone's opinion. The language you speak is "someone's opinion" The science you think is real, is "someone's opinion."
what im talking about is ignoring sourses of information that disagree with you. you cannot argue your side of an issue without understanding the oposing opinion, and frankly it seems that the majority people on this forums understanding of others belief systems is disgusting and ignorant. (not to mention that your beliefs are no more credible than any other form of christianity, islam, judaism, norse mythology, greek mythology, roman mythology, egyptian mythology,wiccan, rastafari, and even the great pastafarianism) you say that atheists are close minded, perhaps you should stop and look at all the people being banned from this site, it seems strange that the open minded people are ready to so easly silence those who disagree with them.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 09:50 PM

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what im talking about is ignoring sourses of information that disagree with you. you cannot argue your side of an issue without understanding the oposing opinion
There is no opposing opinion. There is God's Truth, and anyone who disagrees with it is WRONG. Case closed. You can have the opinion that the night sky is pink and healthy grass is purple, but you'd be wrong. WRONG!


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 10:06 PM

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There is no opposing opinion. There is God's Truth, and anyone who disagrees with it is WRONG. Case closed.
ok, prove to me that all religions exept yours are false, without disproving your own.

and FYI the bible is not proof of god. (i.e. circular logic is not proof.)
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 10:29 PM

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ok, prove to me that all religions exept yours are false, without disproving your own.

and FYI the bible is not proof of god. (i.e. circular logic is not proof.)
(sigh) yet again. Cucumbers prove God, and only God as we Christians believe, exists.



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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 10:36 PM

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ok, prove to me that all religions exept yours are false, without disproving your own.

and FYI the bible is not proof of god. (i.e. circular logic is not proof.)
Why all other religions are FALSE:

Leviticus 19:4:
Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.

Why the Holy Bible, KJV1611 is the TRUE Word of God:

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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21:
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

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Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

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Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 10:56 PM

@ Bobby-Joe, if a cucumber proves the existance of god, does a coconut disprove the existance of god. the coconut is a very inconveniant thing to open. so why is one vegetable proof of god.

@ Brother Alex, did i not specify that the bible is not proof, your using circular logic (which i specified does not prove god eather)

i'll give you an example of circular logic:

i am jesus. i can prove it.
i say i am jesus, and jesus is god, and god never lies, therefore i am jesus because i say i am jesus.

you quote the bible saying god is real. can't you grasp that every religion on the planet that ever was or ever will be says there god is real. what is so different about you.

oh ya, your right because your right. your argument leaves something to be desired.
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@ Brother Alex, did i not specify that the bible is not proof, your using circular logic (which i specified does not prove god eather)
Of course the Bible is proof. The Holy Bible states that it was written by holy men of God through the Holy Ghost. If you're going to say that God does not exist, then how do you explain the Bible?


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 11:16 PM

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If you're going to say that God does not exist, then how do you explain the Bible?
how do you explain the torah, the kor'an, and the hundreds of other religious texts.

MORTAL MEN, you'll inevitably say that they had a religious experiance "inspired by god" but keep in mind that yours is not the only religion that has followers to have experianced something of that nature. the religious experiance predates christianity.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 11:30 PM

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how do you explain the torah, the kor'an, and the hundreds of other religious texts.
The Torah, or the Five Books of Moses are a part of the Old Testament. They are as follows: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy. They are the Word of God and therefore is no need to explain them further.

Other religious texts were written by false prophets to deceive the innocent into following Satan so Jesus could damn them all to hell.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 11:51 PM

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Other religious texts were written by false prophets to deceive the innocent into following Satan so Jesus could damn them all to hell.
and guess what, if i asked a muslim or a jew, he would say the same thing about the bible.

this is something you can't seem to grasp, QUOTING THE BIBLE DOES NOT PROVE ITS VALIDITY.
your saying the bible is truth because it says so.
your argument isn't an argument at all, you just keep saying its true because you have faith, that it is real, were as i have scientific evedence that contradictes the bible, but you refuse to listen because of your blind faith,

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-22-2010, 11:57 PM

Eh, I'm going to have to disagree there, friend.

The Bible is the only accurate and complete historical record that has been verified countless times through scientific and other means. There is no question about the Bible's accuracy and validity.

Jesus Christ fulfilled hundreds of prophesies. Do you think they just made that up? Why would they have that incentive?

And where do you think we all came from then? Oh wait, your answer is "from nothing". Our answer is "God made it all". Guess what? Our answer is more logical! The only thing that can come from nothing is nothing.

The real question here is: why do you insist so much on shoving your misguided opinions down our throat? Do you feel threatened by the very fact that we, as Christians, go to Heaven and you won't?

You don't have to go to Hell, friend. The choice is yours.

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-23-2010, 12:26 AM

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Eh, I'm going to have to disagree there, friend.

The Bible is the only accurate and complete historical record that has been verified countless times through scientific and other means. There is no question about the Bible's accuracy and validity.

Jesus Christ fulfilled hundreds of prophesies. Do you think they just made that up? Why would they have that incentive?

And where do you think we all came from then? Oh wait, your answer is "from nothing". Our answer is "God made it all". Guess what? Our answer is more logical! The only thing that can come from nothing is nothing.

The real question here is: why do you insist so much on shoving your misguided opinions down our throat? Do you feel threatened by the very fact that we, as Christians, go to Heaven and you won't?

You don't have to go to Hell, friend. The choice is yours.

I will pray for you

1. with respect. the bible may be true to you, but to me and and a great portion of the rest of the world it is not. that is not somthing you are going to change. and there IS plenty of questioning about the bibles accuracy. just not by the ones who follow it.

2. the reality is that though i doubt jesuses existance, i do not deny the posibility of his existance. i just find it highly inprobable in my own judgement, However i do deny his divinity. (in my opinion) and as far as insentive to write the bible, there are plenty of fictisous books in the world, who is to say that it is not one. (i know that that can be taken incredably offesive, but it is the reality of my thinking, and by no meansdo i wish to offend you, im just being honest)

3. i don't believe we came from nothing, i just believe that just because we don't understand something, that doesnt mean that it is the work of god.

4. my position comes of as aggresive because i like to discuss topics such as these, in all honesty if you or someone else could point out proof for god (that i believe to actually be proof) i would follow god, but i have yet to come across such evedance. (and i doubt that will ever change)


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-23-2010, 02:53 AM

Wait wait wait wait. Let stop this nonsense right now.. If you believe the earth and every other thing in the universe is flat well .... I really don't know what to say. FAIL
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Wait wait wait wait. Let stop this nonsense right now.. If you believe the earth and every other thing in the universe is flat well .... I really don't know what to say. FAIL
You have failed to read the KJV Bible I see...


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-23-2010, 11:34 AM

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1. with respect. the bible may be true to you, but to me and and a great portion of the rest of the world it is not. that is not somthing you are going to change. and there IS plenty of questioning about the bibles accuracy. just not by the ones who follow it.

2. the reality is that though i doubt jesuses existance, i do not deny the posibility of his existance. i just find it highly inprobable in my own judgement, However i do deny his divinity. (in my opinion) and as far as insentive to write the bible, there are plenty of fictisous books in the world, who is to say that it is not one. (i know that that can be taken incredably offesive, but it is the reality of my thinking, and by no meansdo i wish to offend you, im just being honest)

3. i don't believe we came from nothing, i just believe that just because we don't understand something, that doesnt mean that it is the work of god.

4. my position comes of as aggresive because i like to discuss topics such as these, in all honesty if you or someone else could point out proof for god (that i believe to actually be proof) i would follow god, but i have yet to come across such evedance. (and i doubt that will ever change)

5. please don't waist your time praying for me, i am a lost cause, and proud to be one.
i completely agree.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-23-2010, 01:55 PM

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i completely agree.
So you agree with nonsense? That's nice to hear. It'll be fun watching you burn in hell while I'm laughing with Jesus in heaven.


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So you agree with nonsense? That's nice to hear. It'll be fun watching you burn in hell while I'm laughing with Jesus in heaven.
read it properly and i'll think you'll find that its not nonsense. It may SEEM like nonsense to someone who doesnt care to have an open mind about the world, but for someone who does have an open mind and understands the context in which it was said then it makes sense.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-23-2010, 03:51 PM

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read it properly and i'll think you'll find that its not nonsense. It may SEEM like nonsense to someone who doesnt care to have an open mind about the world, but for someone who does have an open mind and understands the context in which it was said then it makes sense.
Look friend it is very simple; the universe came from nothing, right? There was nothing before the Big Bang. Well that nothing had to come from from somewhere and by definition something can't create nothing so therefore that nothing can't have come from something. That only leaves God. Only God can create nothing so therefor if nothing exists God has to exist.



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