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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 12-24-2011, 07:03 PM

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Is it fair to punish someone for what their ancestors did 3 or 4 generations ago? Most birth defects are caused by mutations...I am not saying that God's word is cruel and ridiculous.

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Yes you are.
This is taken out of context, I assume unintentionally so. I'm not saying God's word is cruel and ridiculous, I'm saying the Bible is cruel and ridiculous. I don't believe in God, so it logically follows I don't believe this book is God's word.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 12-24-2011, 07:06 PM

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This is taken out of context, I assume unintentionally so. I'm not saying God's word is cruel and ridiculous, I'm saying the Bible is cruel and ridiculous. I don't believe in God, so it logically follows I don't believe this book is God's word.
So because you don't like something it's therefore not true?

Your world view must be very difficult to maintain.

Sadly for you, the Bible is God's word
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-30-2012, 03:48 PM

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What the Bible says about Cripples


Ex.4:11
Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lev.21:17-23
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

Given these Holy Scriptures, why are we being forced by demoncrats to spend our hard earned tax dollars on such nonsense as "sheltered workshops" and wheelchairs?
Oh yeah, that's all there, but you decided to leave out this bit of information, from Leviticus 21:22, and here it is, in King James Version: He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy.

since you have the rest of that section in your post, I'm not putting it there.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-30-2012, 03:53 PM

Oh and don't forget, Jesus Christ went around healing the blind, and the deaf, and the lame, and Jesus was the son of God, so of course he wouldn't have done all that if His Father hated Cripples, and deaf people, and blind people, or people with any other defect.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-30-2012, 03:57 PM

I don't understand the title. Why would God hate anyone for being what they are?
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I don't understand the title. Why would God hate anyone for being what they are?
You're missing the point of why would God make someone a cripple on purpose:
2 Samuel 12:14-15
14Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.

15And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.


Here we see a perfectly good example of God punishing people by giving their children diseases. So if you are some sort of hideous cripple it's well worth doing some research to see who in your ancestors annoted God severely.
Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Obviously you need to be prepared to go back a few generations.



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I don't understand the title. Why would God hate anyone for being what they are?
Of course you don't understand. Your father is satan.

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John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 04-01-2012, 11:15 AM

So, debate with who you want to. You'll argue with someone who posts a simple, one sentence post that only says that he doesn't understand the title, but not with someone who produces a REASONABLE argument. Sheesh.
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Oh and don't forget, Jesus Christ went around healing the blind, and the deaf, and the lame, and Jesus was the son of God, so of course he wouldn't have done all that if His Father hated Cripples, and deaf people, and blind people, or people with any other defect.
He healed some of them: the one's He decided to. With Jesus' unlimited Power he cold heal the whole darn world but he didn't, did he?

Why do you think that was?

Ate you saying that you know better than Jesus?

People like you make me sick!

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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 04-01-2012, 05:16 PM

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He healed some of them: the one's He decided to. With Jesus' unlimited Power he cold heal the whole darn world but he didn't, did he?

Why do you think that was?

Ate you saying that you know better than Jesus?

People like you make me sick!

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People like you make me sick! I'm not saying that I know better than Jesus, I'm saying that maybe you were wrong. I wish that Jesus would just take a computer, and argue with you guys the way he did with the Pharisees. He would beat you in every conversation, in every way, with his infinite knowledge.

Not that that would happen, but it would be awesome if it did .

And I don't care if you say I'm going that I'm a hell-bound Heathen who hates Jesus, for it wouldn't mean anything, for you people don't really believe in God, your just atheists who made this site of hate to try to lead people away from Christianity, or prevent people who are not sure about their religious beliefs away from Christianity.

I can't argue with you guys the as well as the guys from the "retards are the Devil's children" thread, even though some of those guys had TERRIBLE grammar, and bad spelling, and one had a paragraph problem, but they ALL produced good arguments, that were very reasonable, some I liked more than others. By the way, to respond to their reasonable arguments, you made fools of yourselves by resulting to petty insults.

But, even though I cannot convince you guys that your view of God is wrong, (that is, if I'm wrong about you guys being fakes) But God himself could, so why don't you ask him. Ask him honestly, and don't just think you hear exactly what you want to hear, but really just listen. I will pray for you to see the truth. Ask him even if I was right about you guys being atheists.

If you believe what you type, your probably going to call me a hell-bound-heathen. If your Atheists like I think, you will call still call me a hell-bound heathen for show, but you'll probably be thinking I'm a dumb ass for believing in God.

But no, you'd be the dumb ass for not believing in God, for Evolution is simply impossible.
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Evolution is simply impossible.
That's the first intelligent thing you're said, friend. Maybe there's hope for you yet.



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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 04-01-2012, 06:36 PM

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That's the first intelligent thing you're said, friend. Maybe there's hope for you yet.


Dude, seriously? Yes, it is impossible, but that's not the only thing I said in that post! Isn't there anything in that post you want to adress? Don't you want to call me a God-hating demon spawn or some other stupid insult you have in your book of petty insults?
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Dude, seriously? Yes, it is impossible, but that's not the only thing I said in that post! Isn't there anything in that post you want to adress? Don't you want to call me a God-hating demon spawn or some other stupid insult you have in your book of petty insults?
What's going on in your brain, friend? Why do you hate yourself so much you want to be abused?

I'm intrigued by you. Let's see if you can tell me why you believe some of the Bible with absolute faith but not the bits that make you uneasy? Why is that?

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Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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What's going on in your brain, friend? Why do you hate yourself so much you want to be abused?

I'm intrigued by you. Let's see if you can tell me why you believe some of the Bible with absolute faith but not the bits that make you uneasy? Why is that?

Otherwise it's very difficult for us to come up with a strategy by which you may learn what you need to do to be Saved© by seeing the Truth®.

I don't want to be abused. I just read a few of your threads, and I know how your sick little minds work. Someone says something you disagree with, and you team up and blast them insults and "your going to hell's".
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I don't want to be abused. I just read a few of your threads, and I know how your sick little minds work. Someone says something you disagree with, and you team up and blast them insults and "your going to hell's".
Warning someone they are going to Hell is an insult?

If you saw someone blindly walking off a cliff because they suffered a delusion it was solid ground would you not warn them just in case they felt insulted?

The only one being rude here is you, friend. And here you are unsaved, uninvited and unwelcome. Isn't it time you considered why it is that you reject God's word when it doesn't suit you to follow it? Isn't it about time you realised all the times you just make stuff up about God in your head rather than actually follow Him?

The god you believe in is entirely imaginary and in your head with an occasional nod to an ancient text you don't really believe in. That's not faith; it's grandiose delusion.

Meanwhile, here we are offering you Salvation© simply by advising you to freely read the Bible with an open mind so that you see God truly for the first time without priests twisting what it says. Be brave!



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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Warning someone they are going to Hell is an insult?

If you saw someone blindly walking off a cliff because they suffered a delusion it was solid ground would you not warn them just in case they felt insulted?

The only one being rude here is you, friend. And here you are unsaved, uninvited and unwelcome. Isn't it time you considered why it is that you reject God's word when it doesn't suit you to follow it? Isn't it about time you realised all the times you just make stuff up about God in your head rather than actually follow Him?

The god you believe in is entirely imaginary and in your head with an occasional nod to an ancient text you don't really believe in. That's not faith; it's grandiose delusion.

Meanwhile, here we are offering you Salvation© simply by advising you to freely read the Bible with an open mind so that you see God truly for the first time without priests twisting what it says. Be brave!
Look, some of the laws (though not the ten commandments, of course) that God gave to Israel is temporary, like stoning a child if he rebelled, or if you work on the Sabbath you'll die. Granted, you should not work on the Sabbath, but the dieing thing is different now. You see, God wanted Israel to follow his every law. If sin started like working on the Sabbath or rebelling against one's parents, it had to be stopped by killing the offender so it wouldn't spread. Now, things much much worse than these things are happening everywhere.

How do I know that your not just a satirical website like Wikipedia (though they don't count much, for they are pretty biased), Yahoo! answers, and this site, my personal favorite: http://www.objectiveness.com/objective_ministries_not/,.
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Look, some of the laws (though not the ten commandments, of course) that God gave to Israel is temporary, like stoning a child if he rebelled, or if you work on the Sabbath you'll die. Granted, you should not work on the Sabbath, but the dieing thing is different now. You see, God wanted Israel to follow his every law. If sin started like working on the Sabbath or rebelling against one's parents, it had to be stopped by killing the offender so it wouldn't spread. Now, things much much worse than these things are happening everywhere.

How do I know that your not just a satirical website like Wikipedia (though they don't count much, for they are pretty biased), Yahoo! answers, and this site, my personal favorite: http://www.objectiveness.com/objective_ministries_not/,.
I guess you'll have to trust your judgement and not believe everything you read on the internet.

What have you got to lose by reading the Bible as it's meant to be read rather than grabbing quotes that match what you want to find in there?



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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I guess you'll have to trust your judgement and not believe everything you read on the internet.

What have you got to lose by reading the Bible as it's meant to be read rather than grabbing quotes that match what you want to find in there?
You guys are so full of hate that it is somewhat believable. But, I don't see what a bunch of atheists could gain from convincing people that Christianity is a hate-filled religion, (rather than what it really is, full of love, as God is full of love for the people) and modern science is bullcrap. So the more reasonable explanation is that you are all in a crazy cult.
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You guys are so full of hate that it is somewhat believable. But, I don't see what a bunch of atheists could gain from convincing people that Christianity is a hate-filled religion, (rather than what it really is, full of love, as God is full of love for the people) and modern science is bullcrap. So the more reasonable explanation is that you are all in a crazy cult.
Like I said: grandiose delusion. What makes you think you have the power to custom make the creator of Heaven and Earth inside your head in direct contradiction of the very document that tells you God exists in the first place?

Friend, there really is no talking to someone in a cult of one.
2 Thessalonians 2:4-12
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

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Like I said: grandiose delusion. What makes you think you have the power to custom make the creator of Heaven and Earth inside your head in direct contradiction of the very document that tells you God exists in the first place?

Friend, there really is no talking to someone in a cult of one.
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4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
I'm not the dude in a cult, you are. I really don't know why you said I am in a "cult of one". What can you lose from asking God if your idea of him is right? There are a 1000 ways to interpret the Bible. Even if you try to take it as it is you could probably be interpreting it differently than it is and not even notice.

The ONLY way to know for sure is to ASK GOD! God talked to Prophets and several other people in the Bible, why not you? I know people that he talks to. He even talked to me before. How do you know my view of God is imaginary if you don't talk to him?

There really is no convincing you people, but it shows in the Bible that Jesus WILL come again. He probably will even come in our lifetime. But when he does, that's when you will see the truth. Then you will be accountable to him for what you are posting. So ask him, and repent!
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