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Another Christian Couple Persecuted -
08-09-2013, 12:52 AM
Look, just because a Christian family with 9 children has one or two of them die on them, there's no reason to persecute them! According to the their Pastor Nelson Clark and Holy Bible, they are obeying God.
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Herbert and Catherine Schaible Will Be Charged With Murder For 'Faith-Healing' Death of 8-Month Old Son
PHILADELPHIA — A judge upheld murder charges Wednesday against a fundamentalist Christian couple in their infant's faith-healing death, saying things might be different if their toddler hadn't died four years ago "under strikingly similar circumstances."
Their probation in that case required Herbert and Catherine Schaible to seek immediate medical help if another child was sick or injured. But they instead prayed over 8-month-old son Brandon before he died of pneumonia in April, according to their police statements.
Defense lawyer Bobby Hoof argued that Brandon died just three days after he came down with cold and flu symptoms and said there was no evidence of malice, as required for third-degree murder. The judge disagreed.
"They learned in the worst possible way ... exactly what these symptoms could lead to in a child, especially a young child, if not medically cared for," Common Pleas Judge Benjamin Lerner said, referring to the 2009 death of 2-year-old Kent Schaible. "We've been here before ... under strikingly similar circumstances."
About a dozen U.S. children die each year when parents turn to faith healing instead of medicine, typically from highly treatable problems, according to experts. At least one state, Oregon, explicitly banned faith healing as a murder defense after a series of deaths.
The Schaibles are third-generation members and former teachers at the First Century Gospel Church, a small, insular congregation in northeast Philadelphia.
"We believe in divine healing, that Jesus ... died on the cross to break the devil's power," Herbert Schaible, 45, told homicide detectives after Brandon died.
Their seven surviving children are now in foster care.
Catherine Schaible, 44, is out on bail, while her husband remains in custody. She seemed fretful in court but calm afterward, even smiling as she left the courtroom with her parents. She declined to comment. Her lawyer said plea negotiations are possible.
Kent also died of pneumonia, albeit after an illness of more than a week.
The Schaibles were convicted of involuntary manslaughter in his death and placed on 10 years of probation, which included an order to get annual checkups and medical care as needed for their children. Brandon was deemed healthy at a newborn checkup. But Hoof acknowledged the boy didn't see a doctor when he became ill.
"A reasonable parent probably would wait three days to take their child to a doctor," said Hoof, who represents Herbert Schaible.
Lerner seemed especially troubled that Brandon had increasingly labored breathing but still got no medical care.
He compared the current case to that of a parent who repeatedly gave a child peanut butter despite knowing of a potentially deadly allergy to it.
"How many times do you have to do that again before a child dies, and a jury can infer legal malice?" Lerner asked. "Is it a second time, or is that not enough? Is it a third time?"
The Schaibles' pastor, Nelson Clark, has said the couple lost their sons because of a "spiritual lack" in their lives. He has also faulted officials for trying to force his members into "the flawed medical system."
The case returns to court next month, and a trial could be scheduled next year. The Schaibles face 20 to 40 years in prison if convicted of third-degree murder.
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Amen Pastor Clark! Jesus is obviously trying to get their attention by killing off their children. I'm sending my Prayers to this couple, so that Jesus will show them how to stop displeasing Him so much.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Another Christian Couple Persecuted -
08-09-2013, 01:20 AM
God is good all the time!
All the time, God is good!
I just praise you Jesus! I praise Your ever-loving Name! I just praise YOU JESUS! You are Elohim - My Creator! You are El Elyon - Most High God! You are El Roi - God Who Sees! You are El Shaddai - God Almighty! You are Jehovah Ezer - The LORD our Helper! You are Jehovah Jireh - The LORD Who Provides! You are Jehovah Rapha - The LORD our Healer! You are the Alpha and the Omega! You are the LORD OF MY LIFE AND THE AUTHOR OF LOVE!
Oh LORD, we just THANK YOU for providing this family the opportunity to overcome temptation and persecution! We just THANK YOU for providing this family the gift of FAITH! We just THANK YOU for offering True Christians™ everywhere the ability to pray and praise you in the midst of persecution and the suffering you lovingly send our way! We just THANK YOU LORD!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Another Christian Couple Persecuted -
08-09-2013, 01:35 AM
If Obama wasn't grooming America's youth to commit sodomy in public schools, I'm certain this wouldn't have happened.
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