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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-21-2010, 03:23 AM

After seeing this, im a little bit upset and angry. If i see a homer near my sons i will send him to hell !
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-21-2010, 07:31 PM

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How dare, HOW DARE you try to make it sound like I'M supporting homosexuals! You are the one doing that, by denying the plain Word of God in favor of "facts"! This is a CHRISTIAN forum! We don't speak about facts. You tried facts, and that liberal Coleridge shred it to pieces!

No, we should deal with GOD! What God says on the subject. ROMANS CHAPTER 1, ma'am. READ IT! Homosexuality is a CURSE sent by GOD to condemn SINNERS!

Your mollycoddling of sodomites, telling them it's not their fault they are that way, that it's because they were "abused", that they are innocent victims of a disease - that's BLASPHEMY! Their behavior is SIN! It should be CONDEMNED! They should be condemned! Not TREATED! Rebuked! Outcast! There is no cure, except repentance. Rape does not cause it, turning your back on God does! Saying otherwise is just a step away from marching along in a pride parade!!!
Watch your mouth when you speak to me! Satan get behind me! I am presenting facts that support God's Word not facts against it!!! Are you this retarded? Sometimes Science supports the Bible/God's word...or did you not know this? Did you not know that there are Scientist that are Christians? When the facts support the Word of God it would be a good idea to Praise Jesus and use them...after all who do you think sent it?
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:27 PM

Wait, what? People are born gay, so their fate is already sealed the moment they are born? They are destined for Hell already? :S
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:29 PM

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Wait, what? People are born gay, so their fate is already sealed the moment they are born? They are destined for Hell already? :S
No they're not, fag-enabler/faggot yourself. Fags only choose to sodomize eachother because they hate God and love evil.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:32 PM

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Wait, what? People are born gay, so their fate is already sealed the moment they are born? They are destined for Hell already? :S
No they are not born gay, it's a lifestyle choice. Perhaps some childhood trauma leans them that way, but they are no more inclined to be gay than an alcoholic is to drink or a drug addict is to shoot up.

As for them being destined to hell, well that is quite possible.

Romans 8:29-31 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:39 PM

But it's not a concious decision though. Did you choose to be straight? No. Sending someone to Hell for things they can't control is horrific.
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:41 PM

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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:44 PM

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But it's not a concious decision though. Did you choose to be straight? No. Sending someone to Hell for things they can't control is horrific.
So if you run over a child you should not be charged with vehicular manslaughter because it wasn't a conscious decision? You don't consciously choose who you sleep with? What do you do, spread your legs for anyone who asks?

Of course it's a conscious decision. There are too many ex-homo's around that are living proof that they can change their lives if they so choose.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:51 PM

That's taking it out of preportion, what does manslaughter have to do with this? And no, I don't open my legs to everyone but thank you for asking.

But do you choose who you are attracted to? Do we as human beings choose who we fall in love with? We don't, it is out of our control.
And I mean love, not lust, not sexual gratification but simple love.
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 06:56 PM

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That's taking it out of preportion, what does manslaughter have to do with this? And no, I don't open my legs to everyone but thank you for asking.

But do you choose who you are attracted to? Do we as human beings choose who we fall in love with? We don't, it is out of our control.
And I mean love, not lust, not sexual gratification but simple love.
So what if someone is attracted to men. Do you have to sleep with everyone you're attracted to? Someone who is attracted to men should still obey God's Law©.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 07:09 PM

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That's taking it out of preportion, what does manslaughter have to do with this? And no, I don't open my legs to everyone but thank you for asking.
You said they should be held blameless because sleeping with men is an unconscious decision for them. If you follow that logic, then the guy who accidentally runs over a child, no matter how drunk he was, should be held just as blameless. After all he was born with a need to drink (according to AA) and didn't drive over the kid on purpose.

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But do you choose who you are attracted to? Do we as human beings choose who we fall in love with? We don't, it is out of our control.
And I mean love, not lust, not sexual gratification but simple love.
Yes, I did choose who to fall in love with. I chose to wait for a True Christian™ man. Sure there were others I was attracted to, but as soon as I discovered they were fuzzy bunny Christians, that was it, I was out of there. Did it hurt? Sure, but I saved myself for marriage.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:03 PM

I really respect your decision to hold out for a man you felt was right, and your strength of character is much higher than most.

As for the blameless issue, I meant that the choice of attraction/love is out of people's control, not the sleeping with part. You don't necessarily have to be attracted to someone to sleep with them, and being attracted to someone and sleeping with them is miles appart.

I think it's the Mormons who allow homosexuals into their church as long as they don't actual have sexual relations with the same sex. While I still find that cruel, it is a step forward. After all it's not the actual sexuality God finds a sin but the actual act, isn't it?
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:11 PM

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I really respect your decision to hold out for a man you felt was right, and your strength of character is much higher than most.
No my strength of character is not much higher than most. I just care about my after life and where I will be spending it.

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As for the blameless issue, I meant that the choice of attraction/love is out of people's control, not the sleeping with part. You don't necessarily have to be attracted to someone to sleep with them, and being attracted to someone and sleeping with them is miles appart.
I completely disagree with you. I've heard women who claim they could never fall in love with a "man who made less that 6 figures", "a man who owned a dog", "a man who hated cats", "a man who *whatever*. These people have clearly made a decision on who they can fall in love with.

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I think it's the Mormons who allow homosexuals into their church as long as they don't actual have sexual relations with the same sex. While I still find that cruel, it is a step forward. After all it's not the actual sexuality God finds a sin but the actual act, isn't it?
Oh I think you are very wrong there.
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Mormonism does not tolerate gays and lesbians. Any Mormon member that confesses homosexuality is automatically forced to appear in front of Church Courts. These Courts then decide whether the homosexual transgressions merit either excommunication or dis-fellowshipping. Mormons who have practiced homosexual intercourse with the same sex are automatically excommunicated.

The leaders of the Mormon Church teach that a man is a God-Embryo and therefore cannot be born gay. Mormon leaders teach that homosexuals choose their lifestyles. They teach that this choice came about from sinful parents, masturbation, or willful disobedience of the commandments of God. All blame for the sin of homosexuality is placed on the person causing depression, hopelessness and often - suicide.

Mormon Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley stated on Larry King Live (December 2004), "We know they have a problem [homosexuals]. We want to help them solve that problem. ...[sic]... The fact is, they have a problem."

During the 1970's the practice of electro-shock therapy was used at the LDS Church owned Brigham Young University. There, homosexuals were electrocuted in an attempt to stop homosexual tendencies.

There are no homosexual Mormons who are in "good standing" with the LDS Church. Homosexuals that are excommunicated are no longer able to participate in any Mormon Church function, including praying, teaching or holding any office. The Mormon priesthood is taken away and all "blessings", rights and Temple privileges are taken away. Excommunicated members are further ostracized in Mormon Sacrament Meetings where they are forbidden to take the Sacramental offerings - or even speak vocally.
Considering how important getting married and having children are to the Mormons (one of the few things they got right) why would you think they would accept homosexuality in any form?


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:22 PM

Apologises, it must have been a branch of the Mormon faith but not main stream religion itself.

I guess it's an invalid issues anyway though, the Christian faith
(and several others) will never fully accept homosexuality in anyway. Although this makes it incrediably difficult for homosexuals who wish to follow a religion, it's sadly not going to happen.
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:31 PM

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Apologises, it must have been a branch of the Mormon faith but not main stream religion itself.

I guess it's an invalid issues anyway though, the Christian faith
(and several others) will never fully accept homosexuality in anyway. Although this makes it incrediably difficult for homosexuals who wish to follow a religion, it's sadly not going to happen.
All they have to do is give up their homosexuality. It's something the Bible is EXTREMELY clear on, but instead they follow their lusts rather than the WORD OF GOD.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:33 PM

As for the love issue, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. To me love is something we can't control and that everyone should have no matter their age, sex or sexuality (within reason though in those matters).
Guess I'm a bit of a die hard romantic in that respect.
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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:38 PM

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As for the love issue, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. To me love is something we can't control and that everyone should have no matter their age, sex or sexuality (within reason though in those matters).
Guess I'm a bit of a die hard romantic in that respect.
What about people who love young boys? What about people who love pets? I guess they're just die hard romantics as well?


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 09:46 PM

Knew you were going to bring up pedophilia or beastiality or other sexual deviancy when I said that, hence why I put "within reason".

Love is love at the end of the day and everyone deserves it; whether it's unconditional love of a parent or relative, love from God, or love from another human being (again within reason), it makes life better.
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To me love is something we can't control and that everyone should have no matter their age, sex or sexuality (within reason though in those matters).
So everything's ok, so long as it's ok by your standards. And you're not being judgemental at all.


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Default Re: homosexuality, it IS okay! - 08-27-2010, 10:00 PM

Surely you would agree though, although our view differ on some points, things such as pedophilia are completely unexceptable not matter religion, nationality or race?

I only put the within reason part in as not having it implied that I believed everything was alright. :/
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