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Default Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 02:13 PM

My wife popped the question. She wondered why there were actually a growing number of atheists in the world. I corrected her, pointing out that in actual fact logic (God's) would dictate that all atheists eventually see the despairingly utter complete pointlessness of existence with no goals, no objective, no meaning, no purpose-filled void of a life and usually commit suicide. Those brave enough anyway. The rest would kill themselves in other ways, drugs, alcohol, adventure sports.

Unlike True Christians who have full complete lives full of love and fulfillment, they are sad empty creatures with nothing to live for. They all look for ways to end it all sooner rather than later. It makes sense.

We come from nothing, we go to nothing, so what's the point of all the inbetweenness? Ipso facto ergo Goodbye cruel world is the way it works I told her.

I'd like an atheist to give their viewpoint if we have any of those sad lonely absurdly angry creatures online who're always lurking.

What's the point of your sad miserable little lives?
And how do you plan to top yourselves once and for all?


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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:07 PM

Sometimes I start to feel sorry for atheists, but then I remember they have free will and have chosen to WASTE their lives.

I wont be able to hear their cries for forgiveness from Heaven, Praise!


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"But Mr. Winner, if GOD loves everyone then why is there so much suffering in the world?"

Because GOD doesn't love everyone. Too many people have this absurd idea in their heads that GOD is all loving.
If he was all loving, then murderers, thieves and homosexuals would be waiting for you in Heaven.

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:14 PM

I don't get why it isn't legal sport to torment atheists? What other purpose do they server, besides signing up to be Nazi stormtroopers or Inquisitors?

Seriously, what kind of woman would love a sick monster like and atheist?



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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:17 PM

The only thing atheists live for is to turn our children gay or go on a shooting rampage in a Toys R Us and blame it on Sarah Palin.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:27 PM

There's an interesting youtube video called "Atheist life vs. Religious life". While you may not like or agree with anything it says, it does have some very interesting points. I think you should watch it.


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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:33 PM

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The only thing atheists live for is to turn our children gay or go on a shooting rampage in a Toys R Us and blame it on Sarah Palin.
So true Wash. We all were horrified about your story of the twenty something atheists who would grease himself up and go around a ski resort offering to give women mansled rides down the mountain.

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There's an interesting youtube video called "Atheist life vs. Religious life". While you may not like or agree with anything it says, it does have some very interesting points. I think you should watch it.
How can we trust an atheist to find out what their lives are like. We TRUE Christins™ all ready know atheists are willing to pretend to believe in God just to make a joke.



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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-20-2011, 11:36 PM

They are pitiful "people" aren't they? Always need their atheism to hide behind, just like a small Child needs a lollipop
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 11:45 AM

Hello

1) Lost Sheep: You and I were in another discussion somewhere else on this site, but I think I've been banned or something, because it won't let me reply. I don't even think I wrote anything terrible, except for not being completely agreeing with the rest of you, which I don't percieve as bad.


No, to point 2)

I happen to be an atheist. I can explain what we think, if you like. Personally I am an agnostic atheist, meaning I believe in god when I see undisputable proof of god's existence. Currently religion is subjecte and a feeling and those who doesn't feel religious aren't, obiously

Atheists aren't worse than muslims or christians. There are many of each behind bars. Take catholism who has done much harm to children.

I think we can all agree that is terrible.

To explain why I'M an atheist I will give you an example.

When you look at a rainbow and see the beauty in it... it's undeniable. It's beautiful. I, as an atheist, wondered (and I hope most people wonder) how the rainbow function.

Splitting the rainbow apart doesn't make it ugly. I can be very poetic about it, as a whole, but when I "split it up" to find out what makes a rainbow and disovered light. I found out how light travels through space, how it makes our sky blue due to molecules and how, when it hits the rainbows, it splits the light into different colours, like you can prove with a prism if you hold it up to the light.

To me, religion couldn't explain how a rainbow function, the beuty of it. Saying "God did it" wasn't enough. I wanted to understand.

Whether god exists or not I would still want to know how it functions.

If god could be proved I would still wonder how a rainbow functions, how he made it. Like a car. Cars are designed by humans, but some people still want to know the details.

And flowers... most flowers have scents or shapes that attracts bees and other insects to help spread the pollen. Isn't the wonderful?

You may say God did it, but I STILL adore knowing how it works.

As with crime. Atheists are not worse than religious people.

Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I don't have moral. I don't kill people or hurt other people. I don't see the productivity in being cruel, really I don't.

All of my friends are atheist and I read the notorious Pharyngula blog everyday. Despite it, none of us feel the urge to harm other people.

I've helped a lot of people, too, who were hurt. Being an atheist doesn't mean we just ignore accidents.

We have exactly the same morals as religious, you, do, the reason behind the just differ. You get yours from the bible, possibly, we get ours from what is logical.

Killing is illogical. Thieving is stupid. Being cruel to others is stupid. Hurting children is stupid, animals, whatever.


So we might hide behind our atheism, but we could say the same to you. You pray, but without proven effect. Why pray and not just be active. Give money or something.

If I lay in a hospital bed I'd rather have the doctor operate on me than pray for me.

And no, we don't pretend to believe in God. My father once said to me, that it's better to believe, just in case.

But if I ever stood in front of God, I will rather be truthful than lie. I'd rather admit I didn't see his wisdom than pretend I saw it, just in case he existed.

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 11:57 AM

Louise: I've read your post, and I totally agree with you. I couldn't have described it better myself.
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Oh hush, Sis. You are simply "Unsaved Trash, Under Investigation." Happens to the Best of us at the start.

However, I stopped reading the rest of your mournful missive when I saw you proclaim yourself athian, and very early on. Because you non-Believers Know NOTHING and don't want to Know Nothing! They don't even want to Know, in the Biblical or any other sense,
The Christ Himself!

Hard to fathom, isn't it?

So! Don't you think it's time to find yourself a better Religion? After all, as George Bush I said, athians aren't really American Citizens! This IS "One Nation, Under God!"

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Oh hush, Sis. You are simply "Unsaved Trash, Under Investigation." Happens to the Best of us at the start.

However, I stopped reading the rest of your mournful missive when I saw you proclaim yourself athian, and very early on. Because you non-Believers Know NOTHING and don't want to Know Nothing! They don't even want to Know, in the Biblical or any other sense,
The Christ Himself!

Hard to fathom, isn't it?

So! Don't you think it's time to find yourself a better Religion? After all, as George Bush I said, athians aren't really American Citizens! This IS "One Nation, Under God!"

Luckily I'm not in that "One nation, under god (small g yep)".
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 04:18 PM

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How can you even comment when you haven't read what I wrote? If you stopped at atheist you've read one line.

I read ALL yours, despite not agreeing with you. If you wish to comment, how about you read what I wrote first?

And sweetheart, you mentioned George W. Bush, but honey, even *I* know that the US constitution talks about the right to free speech and religious freedom. That means believing in Islam, Christinanity, Norse Gods and whatever.

So next time, how about your give your neighbours of different religion a hug of welcome, because no where does it say that the US is founded under Christiniaty.

And YES, I do want to know, why do you think I am here? I am here to LEARN. I wonder about things, how stuff works, and so I figure it out instead of blaming it on God and accepting that without further information.

Do you give charity to organisations you haven't looked into? How do you know they use your money well? Here in DK we had some issues a couple of years ago and so now, and all I know, we check carefully the organisations before making a decision.

How about YOU look around you instead of just picking the religion closest to you?

You want to be religious, fine by me. But have you checked other religions to see if any of them suited you better or did you just mindlessly choose the one you were brought up with?




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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 04:24 PM

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 05:07 PM

Apparently I cannot "Reply" to private messages.

I'd like to point out I didn't add my mail for dating, but more as a "we have a common idea, I'd like to talk more about it". And since I can't mail through THIS place, because I've yet to be varified, I added my mail, so this is actually your own fault.

Let me reply to mail and send mails and I shan't add my mail anywhere...
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honey, even *I* know that the US constitution talks about the right to free speech and religious freedom. That means believing in Islam, Christinanity, Norse Gods and whatever.
Huh? We have that here now? What is this Country coming to?

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 07:30 PM

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No, to point 2)

I happen to be an atheist. I can explain what we think, if you like. Personally I am an agnostic atheist, meaning I believe in god when I see undisputable proof of god's existence. Currently religion is subjecte and a feeling and those who doesn't feel religious aren't, obiously
Nonsense. God is an objective fact. He just exists. Just because you don't feel like acknowledging the truth doesn't make it any less true.
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Atheists aren't worse than muslims or christians. There are many of each behind bars. Take catholism who has done much harm to children.

I think we can all agree that is terrible.
Yes, atheists, muslims and Catholics are all equally hell-bound. Correct.
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To explain why I'M an atheist I will give you an example.

When you look at a rainbow and see the beauty in it... it's undeniable. It's beautiful. I, as an atheist, wondered (and I hope most people wonder) how the rainbow function.

Splitting the rainbow apart doesn't make it ugly. I can be very poetic about it, as a whole, but when I "split it up" to find out what makes a rainbow and disovered light. I found out how light travels through space, how it makes our sky blue due to molecules and how, when it hits the rainbows, it splits the light into different colours, like you can prove with a prism if you hold it up to the light.
Factually incorrect.
Genesis 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.


Rainbows are a special promise from God. He created them to remind us of the time He killed almost everything on earth and of His promise that next time He kills everything in the world, He won't use water to do it.
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As with crime. Atheists are not worse than religious people.

Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I don't have moral. I don't kill people or hurt other people. I don't see the productivity in being cruel, really I don't.
See? You don't refrain from cruel behaviour because it's wrong, you do it because you can't see how it benefits you. If Christopher Hitchens made a graph telling you to do so, you'd stab your own mother in the eye.
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We have exactly the same morals as religious, you, do, the reason behind the just differ. You get yours from the bible, possibly, we get ours from what is logical.

Killing is illogical. Thieving is stupid.
Not if you get away with it.
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Being cruel to others is stupid. Hurting children is stupid, animals, whatever.
If someone clever made an argument as to why it's a clever thing to do, you'd do it. You have no real moral code beyond what's convenient.
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So we might hide behind our atheism, but we could say the same to you. You pray, but without proven effect. Why pray and not just be active. Give money or something.

If I lay in a hospital bed I'd rather have the doctor operate on me than pray for me.
If I had a sinful soul, I'd rather wash it in Christ's blood than have a doctor operate on it.
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And no, we don't pretend to believe in God.
No, you pretend to not believe in God. That's possibly even worse.
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SUV

How can you even comment when you haven't read what I wrote? If you stopped at atheist you've read one line.

I read ALL yours, despite not agreeing with you. If you wish to comment, how about you read what I wrote first?

And sweetheart, you mentioned George W. Bush, but honey, even *I* know that the US constitution talks about the right to free speech and religious freedom. That means believing in Islam, Christinanity, Norse Gods and whatever.
The Bible doesn't, though.
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I gues this is all pretty pointless to write as you probably only read the title SUV
I read it all. I still don't understand why you hate God so much.
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Apparently I cannot "Reply" to private messages.

I'd like to point out I didn't add my mail for dating, but more as a "we have a common idea, I'd like to talk more about it". And since I can't mail through THIS place, because I've yet to be varified, I added my mail, so this is actually your own fault.

Let me reply to mail and send mails and I shan't add my mail anywhere...
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God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-21-2011, 11:19 PM

Yes, you have a constitution. SURPRISE!


Hey Temperance. Thank you for answering the way you have, that's pretty neat.

1) Says you. Your Bible says it, but only you believe it. Muslims belive their religion is the correct one, too, and so do many others. What makes YOU right?

2) Once more, according to YOU. According to islam, YOU're hellbound. According to ALL RELIGIONS I'm hellbound.

Luckily I don't believe in hell. I don't see why anyone has the right to decide my fate.

3)

According to your book God made the rainbow. According to science, religion exist because science was inadequate at the time and couldn't give the needed informations. So what science couldn't prove was found to be work of god. As we move religions have adapted due to undeniable proof of several things.

The catholic pope has admitted the Big Bang existed. However, en claims god did it. Still, they progressed.

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Dude, I don't kill people because it doesn't benefit me. Not at all. I'm working with a telephone company where I get extra paid if I get people to join. I don't lie, still, despite it benefitting me. Truly, I don't. I try to see if people can benefit and if they do, it's good for me as well, but otherwise I'd never sell based on my own needs.

I often talk with a friend about how people can't drive. It's terrible. But just because everyone else drives like shit doesn't mean I should, because I wouldn't help the problem that way.

Have you ever spoken with non-religious people? And dude, have you EVER seen those channels who claim they can cure you through the television? Have you seen the guy who sells "miracle spring water"?

Not too long ago there was a religious man who was calling people out in his church, saying their names and people were exited, until they realised that his wife was talking to him through an ear-piece.

Don't claim innocence, we don't claim it either. We're all guilty of something, religious as non-religious.

I adore Hitchens, he's very insightful. He's really curious about things as well, adopting the religions to understand them. Cool dude.

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So... Catholics are OK with molestation when they get away with it... so that makes it ok?

Ofcourse not. Thieving is never ok. Someone who worked their butts off have lost something because some guy is an idiot. It's not ok.

You can argue that it's understandable, however, in some poor countries, but in a place like the west, where we have our needs covered mostly, thieving is not ok. Take charge of your life, be your master. Stop whining about how you were poor as a child.

I grew up with an alchoholic mother. I am on my second education right now. I don't use my past as an excuse.

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If someone made an argument towards something I might do it. Depending on topic. If you were a trained sniper and you were told to kill Bin Laden, would you do it? If you were the only one who could?

Who should be saved? A man or a criminal?

Most of my morals come from logic, but it doesn't mean I'm swayed by a good argument. There's more to it than that.

But let's face it: I don't see the point in doing something when someone proved to me it's incorrect. Like... I dunno... Point is, why should I keep doing A when it turns out B is better? I don't just jump on it because of a good argument, I search afterwards to see if it's true, to know the facts.

Like a story with my sister regarding Soya Milk and regular milk. She doesn't like regular milk because there are too many hormones in it. So she used soys. Fact is, soya contains hormone-like substances, which are just as bad. So know she knew and could find something better, something healthier.

6) Does this mean you don't want to be operated in case of sickness? Does this mean you don't use penicillin? Way to go for you, I bow for that. Don't just ignore some science, but all of it. I can accept that. I don't like those religious people who just pluck what they feel is right and then claim holy.

Of course, at the same time I honestly think people who ignore medical advice for some psychic/homeopathic/holistic nonesense is utterly insane and should never allowed to put their children at risk. Medicine and science cannot cure everything, but start there before you attend someone who has a "feeling". Too many children have died because their parents faith didn't permit them to be saved. But then again, the parents supposedly believed their children would be saved in death.

But what if the children believed otherwise, who are the parents to force their faith on others? It's it our right to choose?

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How do you know what we do and don't? I don't pretend to not believe in god. But I believe you pretend to believe in god because you're afraid.

Now, this is mud-throwing and utterly pointless, since you cannot know what I believe and vice versa. Calling an entire group for liers is something we both can do and should be stopped now, as it's unproductive. It's obvious I believe you're deranged and you believe me to go to hell when I die, so it lies within the context.

8) the bible wasn't made in US... And so you think your religion is the trumph card, right? Does that mean you drive the way you want in traffic? Does it mean you rage war on your non-religious neighbours, force them to convert or else?

No, you abide by US laws (if you reside in the US, ofc.)

9) I wasn't adding my mail to bitch about you, more to discuss his/her religious views without doing it through a comment.

But I'm not verified, so I cannot reply to msgs and I cannot make any. Which means I cannot defend myself against the accusation laid before me.

But then, that's religion in a nutshell, right? Don't bother defending yourself, you've been judge already? How would YOU feel if you were in my situation, where a whole group bitch about me just because I present a different view or ask questions? I was infricted without ability to defend.

And soon I will get yet another one, where I "whine about infriction" once more and you will have a wonderful way to get rid of me. So hey, grats to you. Let's just push away the different views and live in our own bubble.

Anyways, have a pleasant evening. I am off to bed now, I reckon
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-22-2011, 06:34 AM

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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-22-2011, 12:45 PM

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This was not intended as debate. What started as innocent questions to understand you better was recieved with hatred.

I see now, after having read the "Uninvited and unwelcome" that you REALLY don't tolerate new people and people asking questoins...

So I will leave now, for good.


F*** you all and burn in hell you F*** up, close-minded bigots. Why don't you sacrefice your children or a goat or something.
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