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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 03:13 AM

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As I can see by your reputation your obviously a troll, I dont need to dignify myself with a response to heathens.
Hey, I'm the one agreeing with them about what the Bible clearly instructs people to do.

If you don't accept this, and everything else in the Bible, how can you call yourself a Christian?


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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 03:14 AM

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Such comments only come from people who cannot debate or have sound conversation, I will not be tempted to anger by such.
First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 03:49 AM

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
Fortunately for me I am saved, I accepted Jesus into my heart 20 years ago, and you calling me unsaved scum only shows what kind of Christian you really are, who are you to judge a mans faith, for in doing so, your own faith is being tested.
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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 03:52 AM

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Fortunately for me I am saved, I accepted Jesus into my heart 20 years ago, and you calling me unsaved scum only shows what kind of Christian you really are, who are you to judge a mans faith, for in doing so, your own faith is being tested.
Who am I to judge you?

If you were Saved®, you would know the answer to that question.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 03:57 AM

Only God knows the heart, you can judge and condemn all you want, but to tell a man that he is unsaved, that is only for God to judge. But obviously you think your right in all things, remember, you were born a naked sinner, and if not for Gods grace you would not have salvation or understanding.
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Only God knows the heart, you can judge and condemn all you want, but to tell a man that he is unsaved, that is only for God to judge. But obviously you think your right in all things, remember, you were born a naked sinner , and if not for Gods grace you would not have salvation or understanding.
Please stop thinking about the Pastor as a naked little boy.

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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-27-2012, 10:36 AM

I've followed the conversation with the false Christian and it never ceases to amaze me how they miss the point. Rape is not about respect for the woman; it's about respect for property. If you take a woman that belongs to someone else, whether you forced her or not is not the issue. That much is clear. Superimposing the secular idea that women are free agents is what's causing all the confusion.

Consider women like God does; that they are there to serve men and bear their children and suddenly it all snaps into focus.
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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap - 03-27-2012, 02:34 PM

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Amen, Brother!

I have to admit that, before I got saved, I did not like this passage one bit. To the unsaved mind, rape seems to be a horrible crime, and it seems excessively cruel to force a rape victim to marry her rapist.

I thank the Good Lord every day that I am saved now. Now that I am saved, I can understand God's word.

Because of what the Bible teaches us through the Old and New Testaments about the role of women, I understand that the woman's feelings are simply unimportant in this matter. It is the father who now has damaged goods on his hands, a humbled daughter who cannot fetch a proper dowry.

Even to this day, even right now at this very minute, I can still hear Satan whispering to me inside my head, trying to trick me into rejecting the Word of God -- but what did she do to deserve this? she has experienced one of the worst things imaginable, and now she has to submit to this a**hole for the rest of her life? how is this justice? he should have his n*ts hacked off with a dull blade instead -- but I am not fooled. I can always recognize the voice of Satan, because he always tries to get me to ignore scripture and follow my own sinful mind.

If I sing hymns is a loud voice for long enough, the Devil usually gives up for a while.

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should we return to God's perfect law of liberty which He gave Mose on mt. Sinai?
Continue. Our answer is rather dependent on how you are going to twist scripture. A "yes" would be silly without knowing what you mean. How about you quote some scripture and ask us if we agree.



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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-30-2012, 05:37 PM

10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

So if she does not believe anyway than she can go and divorce. So she is free and does not have to marry him.


Also DEUTERONOMY 22:28 is in the Old Testament and so does not count, just like divorce law or Sabbath.
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...Also DEUTERONOMY 22:28 is in the Old Testament and so does not count, just like divorce law or Sabbath.
Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Have Heaven and Earth passed?

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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-30-2012, 06:14 PM

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10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

So if she does not believe anyway than she can go and divorce. So she is free and does not have to marry him.


Also DEUTERONOMY 22:28 is in the Old Testament and so does not count, just like divorce law or Sabbath.
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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-31-2012, 01:20 PM

but for a man to commit rape is that not an act of lust which is also a sin. yet you claim unless you are completely obedient to god you will not be saved.

yet lust is a sin. and raping someone is an act of lust.

if a man raped your child thus causing her to no longer be pure would you disown her or force her to marry a sinner
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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-31-2012, 02:56 PM

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but for a man to commit rape is that not an act of lust which is also a sin. yet you claim unless you are completely obedient to god you will not be saved.

yet lust is a sin. and raping someone is an act of lust.

if a man raped your child thus causing her to no longer be pure would you disown her or force her to marry a sinner
So you abos choose to ignore the Word of God. Very nice.

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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-31-2012, 03:33 PM

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but for a man to commit rape is that not an act of lust which is also a sin. yet you claim unless you are completely obedient to god you will not be saved.

yet lust is a sin. and raping someone is an act of lust.

if a man raped your child thus causing her to no longer be pure would you disown her or force her to marry a sinner
This sort of confused nonsense is what happens when atheists start to make up their own rules.

The Bible, however, is always totally unambiguous and clear to understand.



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If my child were to dress in a way as to invite such sexual advances, she would reveal her lack of purity in the first place. God's plan to have such a woman marry the man she seduced is a perfectly brilliant way to offer her a last chance at salvation.

Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
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Default Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist. - 03-31-2012, 03:58 PM

i just would like to know what abo is short for in my country its short for aboriginal. legitemtly curious


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i just would like to know what abo is short for in my country its short for aboriginal. legitemtly curious
Abo is not an American word.

We know all about you abo animals from our Mission to Austria a few years ago.

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Abo is not an American word.

We know all about you abo animals from our Mission to Austria a few years ago.

Were you lucky enough to catch any of our Revival Sermons while we were there? Every one of them sold out!
In abo culture, rape is considered normal. They don't have any respect for capitalism or property rights at all. Since no single person is responsible for a given woman, she is usually in poor hygienic condition and surrounded by her own bacterial stink.

It comes as no surprise to me that this abo harlot would be here trying to say that God's law does not apply. I'm sure the lies of their drug addled shamans reversed all the good that we tried to do in the name of Jesus during our Godly mission to their iniquitous country. They probably explained away Christ's miracles with talk of black magic, just like the Pharisees did. They deserve every second of the eternal punishment they will receive.


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Oh, my.

II Timothy 3:16 tells us that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

Having read the Bible very thoroughly, and I have not come accross any "book of Vincenz".

But if you want to go mano a mano with the Lord God Almighty and tell Him that He and most of His Holy Word can go jump into a lake, I certainly can't stop you.


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