[alwaysonmymind Waiting for Email Confirmation]

One more! It'll be my last before I leave you guys forever. It never actually says the earth is flat in the bible. It might suggest some things. Maybe say 4 corners, or edges of the earth, but they're sayings. In the bible it never says "Hey the world is flat.". But once again that goes to how you interpret it. Sorry if you felt I was polluting your threads. Never meant to make anyone angry, or upset. Just trying to get you to see another way, something none of you tried to do for me. Well at least not the ones I've been talking to. At least you know one thing. Even with all the insurmountable evidence supporting a spherical earth you still support the flat earth theory. You guys sure are set in your ways. More stubborn than anything. But at least you know what you believe in. Have fun! I know I will.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

Originally Posted by alwaysonmymind

One more! It'll be my last before I leave you guys forever. It never actually says the earth is flat in the bible. It might suggest some things. Maybe say 4 corners, or edges of the earth, but they're sayings. In the bible it never says "Hey the world is flat.". But once again that goes to how you interpret it. Sorry if you felt I was polluting your threads. Never meant to make anyone angry, or upset. Just trying to get you to see another way, something none of you tried to do for me. Well at least not the ones I've been talking to. At least you know one thing. Even with all the insurmountable evidence supporting a spherical earth you still support the flat earth theory. You guys sure are set in your ways. More stubborn than anything. But at least you know what you believe in. Have fun! I know I will.

You blatantly ignore the fact that Jesus had to go up a mountain to see all the kingdoms of the world. This is not a saying. It is the literal truth of the Bible. If Jesus had to go up a mountain to see all the kingdoms of the world, then the Earth is obviously flat, you ninny-hin!

Matthew 4:8 (King James Version) 8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[down-to-earth]

I don't want to sound stupid. But the balloon is bigger indeed. but more mass? the weight differences between a balloon and a piece of paper is not really the same difference as a man on earth.

there goes one of your tests. start thinking again for something relevant. or stop trying to be sientific. second:

when you jump of the earth. you have the same speed as the surface. with the speed they say you'd have, You would have to jump very high to lose a mesureble amount of speed. besides that, we have an atmosphere traveling at the same speed as well. so you would have to jump outside te atmosphere for a start. Good luck with that

Ever been in a airplane at a great attitude: you cant look any futher than you see. the horizon is even round-shaped. one of the oldest proofs: look at a ship arriving from sea: you will see the top of the mast first.

Best wishes from a dutch scientist

[down-to-earth]

Originally Posted by Cindy Lou Jenkins

You blatantly ignore the fact that Jesus had to go up a mountain to see all the kingdoms of the world. This is not a saying. It is the literal truth of the Bible. If Jesus had to go up a mountain to see all the kingdoms of the world, then the Earth is obviously flat, you ninny-hin!

Matthew 4:8 (King James Version) 8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

all his kingdoms were just in israel. this does'nt proof anything

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by down-to-earth

all his kingdoms were just in israel. this does'nt proof anything

SCIENCE FACT: There are places in the world that aren't in Israel.

[CommonSenseCrusader]

I'm so sorry for you confused, Lucifer worshiping people. You've been tricked by the devil into believing that God's creation is a lie and now you talk about drinking poison too? This is too much for me to handle! He has you all tricked into thinking that you are following God's way!

Please look for truth and love in God and trust in his word. The Earth is a sphere and is his creation and glory. If you deny this, you are of the devil and will be sent to hell. There is no other conclusion and this is simple fact.

I will pray for you, pagan heathens!

God bless and I hope this helps!

[Lisa H]

Originally Posted by down-to-earth

I don't want to sound stupid. But the balloon is bigger indeed. but more mass? the weight differences between a balloon and a piece of paper is not really the same difference as a man on earth.

there goes one of your tests. start thinking again for something relevant. or stop trying to be sientific. second:

when you jump of the earth. you have the same speed as the surface. with the speed they say you'd have, You would have to jump very high to lose a mesureble amount of speed. besides that, we have an atmosphere traveling at the same speed as well. so you would have to jump outside te atmosphere for a start. Good luck with that

Ever been in a airplane at a great attitude: you cant look any futher than you see. the horizon is even round-shaped. one of the oldest proofs: look at a ship arriving from sea: you will see the top of the mast first.

Best wishes from a dutch scientist

Well if you have read ALL the posts you will see photos from a plane showing the horizon as being flat. Off course you see the mast of the ship first, that is because of the waves.

If the horizon is round, then why is when you look down a train track the two tracks come together and not bending downwards.

[alexpcharlier805]

Everyone here does know that we've gone in space and actually seen that the Earth is round, right? Not trying to disprove the thread or anything, but i dont see how anyone can ignore that

[Captain_Obvious_]

ITT: mormons troll acting as if they believe the world is flat.

Let's point out some fun facts!

1. Earth's gravity pulls everything inside of it's SPHERICAL range towards it. This explains why people below the equator, as well as water, doesn't fall out. It's pulled towards the center of the core, and stopped by the layer of rock that is tightly pulled into a sphere-shaped form around the core. Thus, providing Earth with it's Spherical shape. Thus, providing Earth with it's Spherical shape.

This same force explains why you don't move miles away when you jump. You jumped from Earth, a few inches/feet into the air, and all the mass that spins with Earth continues to spin, holding you precisely where you were when you began your jump. The reason this doesn't work when you jump, say, in the back of a truck, is because of physics. The truck is moving, forcing all the air aside so it can move forward. When you jump, the truck itself has no gravity to hold you in, and you don't have the force to push you through the air as the truck does. The wind slows your movement, and the truck continues moving forward.

If you still don't understand, look up what gravity is and how it works.

2. Some of you mention a part in the bible where Jesus climbed a mountain and saw all the kingdoms. We'll consider the fact that this is true. Now, the bible states, "and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world" He could see all of the "Kingdoms" as it states. Now let's pull this word "Kingdom" apart for observation.

The word Kingdom has many meanings, but under this case, it clearly means:

"the domain over which the spiritual sovereignty of God or Christ extends, whether in heaven or on earth."

So you see? Jesus could have seen the entire kingdoms from a mountain top, not because the world was flat and he could see the entire world for what it was, but rather, because he could see all of the kingdoms of that were within God's domain: Israel.

This is arguable, yes, but I'm not going to waste any more time on this topic as my point is clear.

3. Now for the height deal. Sure, you can climb up and look across the lands and see many things. But due to human eyesight being so limited, you cannot see far, and due to such a short distance, your sight makes the ground look flat. It's like looking at a hot-air balloon. From the very top, if you look eye-level with the top edge of the balloon, it will appear flat, until it drops off. However, from afar, it's easy to tell it's not flat. Same with Earth. Get off Earth and look at it from anywhere else and you will see it's sphere shape.

One last thing. Sure, the bible was written under the words of God in the Islamic language. It can't be wrong that way, since it was his words, of course. But you also have to take into consideration that man makes mistakes. Even if the original bible was made perfectly, the millions of copies, as well as the translations, could have had one or two errors here and there. When God shows up and says "This is all 100% correct" then I'll believe every word in it. Until then, I believe what I choose to believe.

That's all I'm going to cover for now. And before you all start spamming blasphemy like always before, I'll state that I am Christian, and I do believe in the bible's teachings, most of them anyways. But I'm not a mormon like most of the people in here, who blindly believe the first thing someone yells out simply because it LOOKS like the bible explains it. Use your head people.

[Captain_Obvious_]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious_

ITT: mormons troll acting as if they believe the world is flat.

Corrected. Typo's suck when you get no edit button.

[GRAVITY]

This is quite silly.

I'm not an atheist, and I'm very open to the idea that someone created the universe, but really?
This is why people make fun of christians and their beliefs.

1) Jump!

Indeed, the Earth does rotate at very high speeds.
What you're not realizing is that we are held by a force called gravity. As the Earth moves, so are we.
One scientific and logical explanation for this is the sun. We get up in the morning - the sun is up. In the night, the sun is down. Are you claiming that the sun disappears, and reappears whenever it feels like it?
No. It's called rotation (due to centripetal force/gravity). Every planet and moon in our solar system experiences it, so don't feel special.

2) Blow!

Another example of idiocy.

If you blow a balloon (with helium or a lighter substance- something you forgot to add), and apply a piece of paper on it, it will fall. That is true.
But you say that as if you can disregard the mass of the Earth. That piece of paper is still being attracted to the center of our planet, with a balloon or without.

Some balloons "float" because the substance inside it is lighter than the air around us.
Besides, you can't compare a piece of paper and a balloon, with a human and the Earth.
The Earth is way larger in comparison.
There are over 6 billion people living right now, and there still seems to be a lot of space.
Fill a balloon with 6 billion pieces of paper, each separated by some space, and then compare the two.

Oh, also I laughed at the Australia part. If you're really Christian, you would know that God created everyone equally. Just because you're born in America doesn't mean you're at "the top" of Australia. Australia, as well as the sad place you live in, is being pulled towards the center of the Earth, by the same force that's pulling you.

Why do you think you fall back to the ground every time you jump?

3) Get High!

I'll have the weed you're having, since you seem like you're really high considering all these silly arguments.

As you "get high" you get to see more since you're looking over.
When you're at ground level, certain objects are blocking your view.

Is perspective really a hard concept to understand?



I am really scared about our future generations if this is what you're teaching in Church.

< I noticed this smily to the right as I was typing this. I really hope you grow up, as killing people, no matter who or what their beliefs are, is really sad. I read the Bible, and it's a unique work of literature. The bible teaches tolerance, something you obviously lack.

[the only demon here]

Are you serious? I have a few experiments of my own that you can all do to prove that the world is indeed round.

1. Download Google Earth and zoom almost all the way out, so you can see the roundness of the Earth. Then click and drag, and you'll see it...rotate! Oh goodness!

2. Go up on top of a mountain, just like the good Reverend suggested. Now if the Earth were flat, you would be able to see everything on the surface of the earth, provided the skies were clear. And, when you looked just above the surface at the farthest distance you can see, you would see space rather than the sky. This, however, is not the case. The horizon is there because of the curvature in the Earth and the atmosphere that surrounds it. If the Earth were flat, there would be no horizon.

3. Look at any picture taken of Earth from space. Or from the surface of the Moon. It's clearly round. And if you think it's all a big hoax, why don't you go down to Cape Canaveral and watch the Space Shuttle launch into space? There's no mistaking that the Shuttle is actually going into space. I've seen a launch. It's not fake.

4. I should add this too: there are plenty of planetary scientists who hold faith in God or some other deity. Scientists are not all atheists. In fact, few are. The ones you always quote as the faces of 'atheist science' may be, but that really only represents a small number of scientists, the few who lower themselves to you level to even argue about this stuff with religious fundamentalist extremists like yourselves. I am because I have no reputation to lose. I am a concerned citizen of the United States who is worried about our national security and the fact that people like you are allowed out in public. You teach your children this stuff? Let me know if there's an afterlife when you die. Because there most likely isn't one. You cling onto religion because you don't know what will happen to you when you die, and you want some "comfort" in life, thinking that you live for a purpose. But in reality, what you live, your life, is a complete fabrication. You cannot prove any of your religious points with any hard evidence. You use so much circular reasoning (i.e. Fact 1: Satan’s lies try to land people in Hell; Fact 2: Gravity tries to land people in Hell; Ergo: Gravity is a lie of Satan) that you have lost what little credibility you had...just because two things lead to the same end (which they certainly don't here, because gravity does not try to land people in Hell...what does that even mean?) does not mean they have the same cause. Just because two people die does not mean they were both murdered by Muslim extremists. Or Christian ones.

One last thing: The Bible says that Earth has "four corners" because at the time, people had no way of knowing that it was round. Or did they? In the third century B.C., a Greek man called Eratosthenes did a little experiment of his own. He put two sticks in the ground, one about 20 miles due south of the other. (He knew the precise distance because he hired a man to pace out the distance.) At noon on the summer solstice, June 21, he and and a colleague measured the length of the shadow coming from the stick. As you may or may not know, June 21 is the date on which the sun is the highest in the sky (at noon) for all places in the Northern Hemisphere. If Earth were flat, the angle would be the same, as the sun would be directly over both places. However, the angle was different. This proved that there is curvature in Earth's surface because although the sun should have been directly overhead, it was not directly over both places. Interesting.

If you're not convinced, let me know. Or you can read Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things. It's a fascinating read that may help you understand why you believe that the Earth is flat.

[Titus Templeton]

Wow so many words... Lets make it short. You are not man enough to stand for the Truth. And the Truth is that the world is flat.

[HerpDerp101]

you know i would be angry because of everyones ignorance, but i rest assured knowing that you are all the ungodly. The Landover Babtist Church is the most evil and hate mongering establishments that has ever been conceived. you will all rot in hell when judgement day comes.


also, hurr hurr look at me guise im feeding the trolls

[youreallretards]

This topic is a joke, right? you guys can't possibly be serious. how about you open a science book sometime, if you're atleast a little open minded?
I mean, believing in god isn't a problem, but thinking the earth is flat and whatnot... what is it, pot, cocaine, ecstasy? I heard absinthe is pretty hard, too.
We move as the earth is moving, "jesus said drink this wine, it's my blood" well you might wanna stop drinking now.

[ninjaninja]

Originally Posted by Titus Templeton

Wow so many words... Lets make it short. You are not man enough to stand for the Truth. And the Truth is that the world is flat.

And you are not man at all to believe it is. The gravity of the planet Earth pulls all th land towards the center-forming a ball. So, 'tis ROUND. hahaha you guys are sooo old, yet sooo simple, and closed-minded. God teaches us to be open-minded. I'm sure he's unhappy for you to foil the name of christianity. you guys are just like a sick religious cult out of a movie... It's funny, really.

[Grogsky709]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

That is impossible. It cannot be two different times at the same time. It is what time it is.
That explains a lot.

You're dumb. Time is always the same, it's called a time zone because it happens to be the different part of the day. When the sun rises where you are it rises at say 5am. In the other part of the world it rises at 5am as well. The reason it's set like this is so its not 1am and sunny. That would be stupid. It's all the same time in relation to where you are, it's just a different time zone so that we can work in day light hours. Also someone posted that the sun rises, the sun doesn't move. The earth spins. It can't always be in the direct light of the sun, therefore half is always dark. We spin into the light each day around 5am. Here's one to mess you up, the moon doesn't move either, it's right above you now. How come? Well lets just say that the light from the sun makes it hard to see at day time hours, then at night when it reflects light from the sun it become illuminated. How is it reflecting light? Well it's at a different position than the Earth, above it to give you a better idea. There you go. Plus if you look out over the ocean you can see the earth bend. Yes bend, that's why you can't see across to Europe. Haza, the Earth is round.

[Titus Templeton]

Originally Posted by ninjaninja

It's funny, really.

You think this is funny? The Bible tells us everything, so why do you believe atheists more then God? Once Jesus is back on this earth, he will cut your throats for being bad childs... Keep that in mind.

[ChuppaChups]

I just had to jump into this conversation, let's start.

A ball:





The Earth:




/thread

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Grogsky709

You're dumb. Time is always the same, it's called a time zone because it happens to be the different part of the day. When the sun rises where you are it rises at say 5am. In the other part of the world it rises at 5am as well. The reason it's set like this is so its not 1am and sunny. That would be stupid. It's all the same time in relation to where you are, it's just a different time zone so that we can work in day light hours. Also someone posted that the sun rises, the sun doesn't move. The earth spins. It can't always be in the direct light of the sun, therefore half is always dark. We spin into the light each day around 5am. Here's one to mess you up, the moon doesn't move either, it's right above you now. How come? Well lets just say that the light from the sun makes it hard to see at day time hours, then at night when it reflects light from the sun it become illuminated. How is it reflecting light? Well it's at a different position than the Earth, above it to give you a better idea. There you go. Plus if you look out over the ocean you can see the earth bend. Yes bend, that's why you can't see across to Europe. Haza, the Earth is round.

Think about it logically. Say it is two o'clock in New York and some New Yorker calls a friend in Mississippi who says it is one o'clock. They are still talking at the same time, so it is the wrong time in New York.