[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

So you guy say that the KJV are the only true words of god. But I've got news for ya, KJV stands for the "King James VERSION." This book does not contain the true words of Jesus or God. It's some guys version from the middle ages who just wanted to gain control over his country through the use of "godly" threats. He would claim himself a messenger of god and tell people that what he said were the words of god himself and if they didn't comply they'd just go strait to hell. Not a nice guy.And since at the time every one HAD to have the SAME religion as the king, there was no getting out of his demands. You can't prove this wrong with bible passages like you just so bluntly disprove all of the claims against you. Cause why would a King want to have been found out to be a liar?

Son, you apparently have not come to the Hallowed halls of Landover well armed in your knowledge. The Bible (KJV1611) was not written in the Middle Ages. Europe was emerging from a horrible time, also known as the Dark Ages, brought upon by Goths and the fall of the Roman Empire and the dominance of the cathylick church. The period when the Bible (KJV1611) was written was known as the Renaissance - a period marked by the start of the decline of the Satanic grip the cathylick church held over mankind.

Praise Jesus!

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

Son, you apparently have not come to the Hallowed halls of Landover well armed in your knowledge. The Bible (KJV1611) was not written in the Middle Ages. Europe was emerging from a horrible time, also known as the Dark Ages, brought upon by Goths and the fall of the Roman Empire and the dominance of the cathylick church. The period when the Bible (KJV1611) was written was known as the Renaissance - a period marked by the start of the decline of the Satanic grip the cathylick church held over mankind.

Praise Jesus!

I never said he WROTE it himself, I'm not stupid. If he himself wrote it would be called King James' Bible not the King James Version. DUH. And the point isn't EXACTLY what year he had it translated, what matters is that in the process he changed SEVERAL things in order to have an excuse for threatening people's lives. "I am the word of god, he speaks through me. And therefore if you don't do what I say, with the wrath of god I will kill you and send you to hell!" Is probably something of how it went.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by JudasReborn

You, of course. You're the most intelligent lifeform
I've encountered here.

Thanx, at least some people here aren't completely ignorant mormons.

[Talitha]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

Thanx, at least some people here aren't completely ignorant mormons.

Call ANY of us THAT word again and I'll be giving you some very severe Infraction points.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Ooops, I seriously meant mormonS.
but mormon works too. HAHAHAHA
You people hate way to many things.
Next thing you'll say is probably that you hate flys, or swiss cheese.
Infraction points? oooooooooooooh I'm scared!!!!!!!!!!!
Hit me with your best shot baby.

[Talitha]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

Ooops, I seriously meant mormonS.
but mormon works too. HAHAHAHA
You people hate way to many things.
Next thing you'll say is probably that you hate flys, or swiss cheese.
Infraction points? oooooooooooooh I'm scared!!!!!!!!!!!
Hit me with your best shot baby.

Haaaaaaaahaaaaaa were you trying to say Moron?
I certainly hope not.

It says in your Profile you are a Musician?
What kind of Instrument? ...................no....................... don't tell me........... Pink Oboe??

[Father Thomas Martin]

St. Jerome is revered as a great Saint in our church. He LOVED the Bible, and translated it into the then-common language of Latin (it is known as the Vulgate).

"Love the Bible and wisdom will love you"

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by Sister Talitha

Haaaaaaaahaaaaaa were you trying to say Moron?
I certainly hope not.

It says in your Profile you are a Musician?
What kind of Instrument? ...................no....................... don't tell me........... Pink Oboe??

Well if I told you what I play you probably would know what it is, I expect it would be way to complicated for you. Do you know what an Oboe is?
hmmmmmm, i bet not.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

you probably think your pretty cute right now huh?
Well you know what they say when.....

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

Well if I told you what I play you probably would know what it is, I expect it would be way to complicated for you. Do you know what an Oboe is?
hmmmmmm, i bet not.

We know it is full of homer code words like breathing from "the diaphragm" and forming a good "embouchure" with your' lips. Woodwinds are instruments of The Devil and they are band from Freehold County. I pray you are not some reed sucker.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

We know it is full of homer code words like breathing from "the diaphragm" and forming a good "embouchure" with your' lips. Woodwinds are instruments of The Devil and they are band from Freehold County. I pray you are not some reed sucker.

Why in the world are woodwinds "instruments of the devil?" Because you put them in your mouth and blow? well what about drinking straws? you put them in your mouth and suck! That seems more sexual to me don't you think, if that is in fact the reason woodwinds are "the devil."
I play flute, clarinet, oboe, trumpet, cello, violin, viola, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass guitar, and percussion. oh yeah and I write music too, you all probably would ban it.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

I pray you are not some reed sucker.

Why would you care about me anyway, for all you know I could be half asain, half black, half catholic, half jew, and gay. and besides i already called you all mormons

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

I never said he WROTE it himself, I'm not stupid. If he himself wrote it would be called King James' Bible not the King James Version. DUH. And the point isn't EXACTLY what year he had it translated, what matters is that in the process he changed SEVERAL things in order to have an excuse for threatening people's lives. "I am the word of god, he speaks through me. And therefore if you don't do what I say, with the wrath of god I will kill you and send you to hell!" Is probably something of how it went.

Son, you are missing the point here. While your knowledge of scripture is severely lacking, you are correct that Jesus kills - and with good reason (which you seem to be harping about).

Let me try to bring this down to your level. Your parents gave birth to you and are responsible for your upbringing and education. You fail your history studies miserably and you don't expect some kind of punishment? Good Christian parents at a minimum would cut off your Wii.

Put yourself in God's shoes for a moment. You create a universe and put some people in it and give them free will. All you ask for is a little thanks, and some praise perhaps. How would you feel if your creation chose to go about sodomizing each other, as well as the rest of the animal kingdom? Of course God kills, and so would you if you were faced with a similar problem.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

Son, you are missing the point here. While your knowledge of scripture is severely lacking, you are correct that Jesus kills - and with good reason (which you seem to be harping about).

Let me try to bring this down to your level. Your parents gave birth to you and are responsible for your upbringing and education. You fail your history studies miserably and you don't expect some kind of punishment? Good Christian parents at a minimum would cut off your Wii.

Put yourself in God's shoes for a moment. You create a universe and put some people in it and give them free will. All you ask for is a little thanks, and some praise perhaps. How would you feel if your creation chose to go about sodomizing each other, as well as the rest of the animal kingdom? Of course God kills, and so would you if you were faced with a similar problem.

First, I don't HAVE to have read you stupid book to know what is write and what is wrong. Now answer my question, how are woodwinds instruments of the devil huh??
Well, I would never be faced with the same situation b/c I don't believe in god, but I were to go on hypothetically, I would NEVER kill anyone, because there is hope for everyone. If you've every seen the movie Bruce Almighty (I am quite sure you havn't) that is exactly what I do, when you say someone needs to die, I go to them and show them down the right path. If they were to get lost in the forest, you say "MY forest, I kill you!" I'd say, "Here let me show you where you need to be. And no one brought up sadomizing here, so lets leave that out of it. And besides, how would you know that happens every where unless you live in a brothel or work in one.


P.S. Just for the record, when ever I type M-O-R-O-N it it changed by your server to m-o-r-M-o-n-s. you mormons......

[H. Montague Worthington]

So here's another disgusting, pathetic, loser heathen of the angry left coming here to spew hatred, namecalling and intollerance. It figures.... when you want foul language, racism, hatred, and intollerance, just go out and find a Liberal.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

First, I don't HAVE to have read you stupid book to know what is write and what is wrong. Now answer my question, how are woodwinds instruments of the devil huh??
......

First, I seriously doubt that you really play all those instruments, other than to produce some objectionable noise (much like your posts here). But for the moment I will indulge you briefly here. There is a great deal written on this Godly Forum about music and musical instruments if you would only take your snot encrusted little fingers and use the "search" function. Your apparent wealth of knowledge is something you gained primarily through osmosis.

Flute = Sissy instrument, mainly played by women and only in the home.

Clarinet = Utilizes a closed tube resonator that diminishes even partials (which is responsible for its "Dark Tone" - and we here at Landover don't cotton to "dark" things, like Goths, Satan or Clarinets).

Oboe = Like all double reed instruments, including the Bassoon and "English Horn" (definitely gay), the reeds are shaped like a clove hoof, and is designed to bring forth the devil.

Most brass instruments are exempt because even though they are closed tube resonators, they contain conical sections that remove most of the objectionable sounds.

If you are a composer (as you "claim" to be), you should know enough to stay away from tritones (augmented 4th and the diminished 5th) and the diminished seventh in order to save your immortal soul.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by H. Montague Worthington

So here's another disgusting, pathetic, loser heathen of the angry left coming here to spew hatred, namecalling and intollerance. It figures.... when you want foul language, racism, hatred, and intollerance, just go out and find a Liberal.

And thats NOT foul laguage?!?!? hypocrite
And I restrain myself from calling you anything harsh. And You are sooooooooooooo DAMN prejudice, WHAT IN THE WORL HAPPENED TO THIS RELIGION. you say you follow the words of the bible, but please sho me exatly where it says that liberals are all the things you said you people always back up your claim with scripture. I DARE you to do it now! I have never called a chinaman a c***c, never a black man a n****r or homosexual a f*g. and yet I'm the racist one. and just t prove you wrong, I am not going to "spew hatred" at you. I am a peace maker, not an "another disgusting, pathetic, loser heathen" takes one to know one buddy. oh ya, and it takes two to tango.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by IbelievewhatIknow?

Why would you care about me anyway, for all you know I could be half asain, half black, half catholic, half jew, and gay. and besides i already called you all mormons

Do I look like a racist to you? I forgive you for all that seven times seventy as Jesus commands me too. But you must repent of your depraved reed sucking before it is too late and you are playing Satan's lap flute.

This what Scripture says about woodwinds

Woe unto those who rise early in the morning, that they may pursue strong drink, who tarry late into the night till wine inflames them! They have lyre and harp, tambourine and flute and wine at their feasts, but they do not regard the deeds of the Lord, neither do they consider the operation of His hands [in mercy and in judgment]. (Isaiah 5:11-12)

3Therefore My heart moans and sighs for Moab like flutes, and My heart moans and sighs like flutes for the men of Kir-heres (Kir-hareseth); therefore [the remnant of] the abundant riches they gained has perished.(Jeremiah 48:36; clearly, the penchant of the Moabites for flute music is a major cause of their undoing)

And when Jesus came to the ruler’s house and saw the flute players and the crowd making an uproar and din, He said, Go away. (Matthew 9:23-24)

If even inanimate musical instruments, such as the flute or the harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone[listening] know or understand what is played? (1 Corinthians 14:7)

2And the sound of harpists and minstrels and flute players and trumpeters shall never again be heard in you, and no skilled artisan of any craft shall ever again be found in you, and the sound of the millstone shall never again be heard in you (Revelations 18:22)

Repent friend. Woodwinds are the very instruments of damnation.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

First, I seriously doubt that you really play all those instruments, other than to produce some objectionable noise (much like your posts here). But for the moment I will indulge you briefly here. There is a great deal written on this Godly Forum about music and musical instruments if you would only take your snot encrusted little fingers and use the "search" function. Your apparent wealth of knowledge is something you gained primarily through osmosis.

Flute = Sissy instrument, mainly played by women and only in the home.

Clarinet = Utilizes a closed tube resonator that diminishes even partials (which is responsible for its "Dark Tone" - and we here at Landover don't cotton to "dark" things, like Goths, Satan or Clarinets).

Oboe = Like all double reed instruments, including the Bassoon and "English Horn" (definitely gay), the reeds are shaped like a clove hoof, and is designed to bring forth the devil.

Most brass instruments are exempt because even though they are closed tube resonators, they contain conical sections that remove most of the objectionable sounds.

If you are a composer (as you "claim" to be), you should know enough to stay away from tritones (augmented 4th and the diminished 5th) and the diminished seventh in order to save your immortal soul.

You have no idea what your talking about. augmented 4th and diminished 5th are the same thing. the diminished 7th as well as tri-tones are very useful and interesting chords. and nah, your not controlling just like King James. Cause restricting even what chords I can write in my music which is supposed to be a reflection on my personality(which you hinder in all of your followers) isn't getting too much into my life at all.
Have you ever heard the quote :"Those who live by the words of others have yet to live." ? huh, cause that is 100% true. If you live by another's words your whole life, you life was empty and meaningless. nobody will remember you. you, your name, and the legacy you didn't have will die with you. I intend to be remembered by more than my immediate family.
I assume you know who George Washington is....He lived about 250 years ago, you know why we still know his name? Because he broke all the rules, he left the controlling king that ruled the 13 colonies and defeated them in battle. He was the exact opposite of you people. I bet you that in 250 year nobody will know who in the world you are when told your name. I can make sure that doesn't happen to me by writing music that according to you breaks the rules, and playing sissy instruments, and dark instrument or those of the devil. cause if I do, others will follow me and begin to realize that their old way of life was meaningless and if they want their life to have any impact on this world, they will break the rules as I do.
Put that in you sassy little pipe and smoke it.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Do I look like a racist to you? I forgive you for all that seven times seventy as Jesus commands me too. But you must repent of your depraved reed sucking before it is too late and you are playing Satan's lap flute.

This what Scripture says about woodwinds



Repent friend. Woodwinds are the very instruments of damnation.

Woe unto those who rise early in the morning, that they may pursue strong drink, who tarry late into the night till wine inflames them! They have lyre and harp, tambourine and flute and wine at their feasts, but they do not regard the deeds of the Lord, neither do they consider the operation of His hands [in mercy and in judgment]. (Isaiah 5:11-12)

Thats not talking about musicians at all that talking about drunks

3Therefore My heart moans and sighs for Moab like flutes, and My heart moans and sighs like flutes for the men of Kir-heres (Kir-hareseth); therefore [the remnant of] the abundant riches they gained has perished.(Jeremiah 48:36; clearly, the penchant of the Moabites for flute music is a major cause of their undoing)

That's out of context and connot be claimed to be against musicians. For all I know he talking about how beautiful the sound of the flute is. "My heart moans and sigh like flutes. It sounds like he's got a lady friend that doesn't like him back.

And when Jesus came to the ruler’s house and saw the flute players and the crowd making an uproar and din, He said, Go away. (Matthew 9:23-24)

Maybe he told them to go away because He wanted to speak with someone alone....also out of context.

If even inanimate musical instruments, such as the flute or the harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone[listening] know or understand what is played? (1 Corinthians 14:7)

that has no relevance here. that's just a metaphore for people who don't say whats on their mind. "How can some one know what you think if you don't speak your mind" kind of thing.

2And the sound of harpists and minstrels and flute players and trumpeters shall never again be heard in you, and no skilled artisan of any craft shall ever again be found in you, and the sound of the millstone shall never again be heard in you (Revelations 18:22)

That sounds like a punishment to me. "and no skilled artisan of any craft shall ever again be found in you" sounds like someone is saying that he shall never have the enjoyment of any pleasure what so ever. That says nothing against the flute.

So that dosn't prove anything. Cause like always you talk things exacltey for what they say in a book FILLEd to the brim with metaphores. And it looks to me that you just searched "flute" in an online copy of the bible and posted all you found here with ouy reading it for what it really means.
not wise.....not wise....