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Default Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-14-2009, 02:21 AM

Surprisingly — or not? — the Creation Museum openly promotes the belief that black people are the descendants of Ham, father of Canaan, whom Noah cursed to be “servant of servants”. This Biblical belief, once used to justify slavery, seems to be on the rise again.



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Ham? And was their mother Cheese? What are you talking about?

Ham was one of the three sons of Noah. You remember Noah, right? He’s the man who, with his wife, his three sons, and their wives, provided no warning whatsoever to anybody over the course of 100 years that the Lord was going to flood the Earth. (Not what you heard in Sunday School? Try the Bible, friend!)

After the Flood, Noah and family set forth to incestuously repopulate the Earth (Genesis 9). Noah decided that, since food was somehow abundant, despite the obliteration of all life on Earth, he should tend a vineyard and make wine instead of growing actual food. Apparently, Shem, Ham, and Japheth took care of growing the real food.

Noah gets hammered. Let’s see what happens!
Genesis 9: 18-27

18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
So . . . Noah cursed Ham’s son, Canaan, to be “a servant of servants”.

According to the Creation Museum, Canaan and his descendants populated Africa. They were called [the nation of] Canaan, or Canaanites.

Populated Africa . . . That’d make them black folks, huh?

The argument that Noah cursed all of Canaan’s descendants has been used for centuries to justify the enslavement of black people. And Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum continues to promote this belief.

But, Ham cries, I’m not racist! I'm just following the Bible!

On the AiG website, Biblical racial theory is expanded for us: http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...human_race.asp
All races therefore have developed from this one family since the end of the flood in Noah’s day . . . The culture (technology and religions, etc.) of each racial group in the world started at a common point -- Noah -- with full knowledge of God and a sophisticated ocean liner technology. [Yes, sophisticated ocean liner technology, the Ark. -JD] The current states of culture of the races, which varies from space age to stone age, from animal worship and spirit worship to Christianity, is not a result of innocent, ignorant people searching for improvement. It is a direct consequence of whether the ancestors of any race worshipped the living God or deliberately rejected Him.
That’s right. According to Ken Ham and God, those dark-skinned people in Third World nations are uneducated and starving to death and riddled with disease because their ancestors deliberately rejected God.

So why, I ask, do we keep sending aid to these people? Why do we not just send them Bibles and missionaries, so they can find God, and then be blessed like Americans?

It's so obvious that this is what we must do!


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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-14-2009, 03:15 AM

Good article, needs a better title. I recommend "CREATION MUSEUM SAYS GOD HATES NEGROS!"


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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-14-2009, 03:23 AM

I wonder . . .

Perhaps some of the descendants of Ham, the slow(er) learners perhaps, further aggravated God, and suffered another curse, and became the Mooslims??

And I note, the Mooslims aren't good for anything, even in a servant of a servant role, so it is possible they are a more accursed form of the Hamites.

I'm unaware of any Scripture for this, but it seems to explain some things.


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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-14-2009, 04:19 AM

Well, Ken's last name is "Ham". He is also from Australia, where the kangaroo eating Hamites live. That must mean that he knows a thing or two about the subject.

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And I note, the Mooslims aren't good for anything, even in a servant of a servant role, so it is possible they are a more accursed form of the Hamites.

I'm unaware of any Scripture for this, but it seems to explain some things.
If I recall correctly, the Muslims tie in with Ishmael, a result of Abraham's unholy fornication with Ishmael's mother. Now maybe she was a Hamite, or maybe because Abraham's name contains "ham", or maybe because Muslim don't eat ham. But I think you are definitely on to something with the Muslim/Ham connection.


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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-17-2009, 05:36 PM

Brothers or Sisters, i am finding this discussion today totally confusing. Maybe it's because of the terrible heat here making it hard to concentrate. Now my son Jedediah who also reads the great Christian information available on the Forum to his younger brothers actually think there were two Negro's on the Ark. Can you please explain that this was not so and Negro's came later.
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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-17-2009, 08:33 PM

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Brothers or Sisters, i am finding this discussion today totally confusing. Maybe it's because of the terrible heat here making it hard to concentrate. Now my son Jedediah who also reads the great Christian information available on the Forum to his younger brothers actually think there were two Negro's on the Ark. Can you please explain that this was not so and Negro's came later.
While it is a common misconception to lump negroes (particularily those apelike pygmies and hottentots) into the "animal" category, which makes a lot of people assume Noah took a breeding pair of negroes along with the giraffes, gorillas, turtles, etc., the negroid race did not come about until after the flood. There are two reasons for this: The Bible tells us the negroes came to be after Canaan was cursed; that is postdiluvian.

Also, negroes couldn't be around before the flood AND after, because as we all know, negroes cannot swim. Pop quiz: Name a single negro Olympic swimmer. You can see my point.



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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 10-11-2010, 02:06 PM

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I'm unaware of any Scripture for this, but it seems to explain some things.
NO!!! THE LORD'S WORD IS LAW. IF IT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES, IT IS NOT REAL!!! MOOSLIMS ARE SIMPLY BLACK, IT IS OBVIOUS!!!

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NO!!! THE LORD'S WORD IS LAW. IF IT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES, IT IS NOT REAL!!! MOOSLIMS ARE SIMPLY BLACK, IT IS OBVIOUS!!!

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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 10-29-2010, 07:43 AM

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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-14-2009, 03:53 AM

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Good article, needs a better title. I recommend "CREATION MUSEUM SAYS GOD HATES NEGROS!"
An interesting suggestion, Brother Jeb, but not entirely accurate.

How about, "Creation Museum Says Negroes Cursed by Noah"?

It says they're descendants of Canaan, thus cursed. That's accurate, no?


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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 08-17-2009, 09:35 PM

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How about, "Creation Museum Says Negroes Cursed by Noah"?

It says they're descendants of Canaan, thus cursed. That's accurate, no?
The important thing is not that blacks are merely cursed, but that blacks are cursed to slavery.

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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 10-29-2010, 02:07 PM

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Surprisingly — or not? — the Creation Museum openly promotes the belief that black people are the descendants of Ham, father of Canaan, whom Noah cursed to be “servant of servants”. This Biblical belief, once used to justify slavery, seems to be on the rise again.



AiG's Creation Museum Says Black People are Hamites. Click for JUMBO version. (No, really. It gets bigger!)


Ham? And was their mother Cheese? What are you talking about?

Ham was one of the three sons of Noah. You remember Noah, right? He’s the man who, with his wife, his three sons, and their wives, provided no warning whatsoever to anybody over the course of 100 years that the Lord was going to flood the Earth. (Not what you heard in Sunday School? Try the Bible, friend!)

After the Flood, Noah and family set forth to incestuously repopulate the Earth (Genesis 9). Noah decided that, since food was somehow abundant, despite the obliteration of all life on Earth, he should tend a vineyard and make wine instead of growing actual food. Apparently, Shem, Ham, and Japheth took care of growing the real food.

Noah gets hammered. Let’s see what happens!
Genesis 9: 18-27

18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
So . . . Noah cursed Ham’s son, Canaan, to be “a servant of servants”.

According to the Creation Museum, Canaan and his descendants populated Africa. They were called [the nation of] Canaan, or Canaanites.

Populated Africa . . . That’d make them black folks, huh?

The argument that Noah cursed all of Canaan’s descendants has been used for centuries to justify the enslavement of black people. And Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum continues to promote this belief.

But, Ham cries, I’m not racist! I'm just following the Bible!

On the AiG website, Biblical racial theory is expanded for us: http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...human_race.asp
All races therefore have developed from this one family since the end of the flood in Noah’s day . . . The culture (technology and religions, etc.) of each racial group in the world started at a common point -- Noah -- with full knowledge of God and a sophisticated ocean liner technology. [Yes, sophisticated ocean liner technology, the Ark. -JD] The current states of culture of the races, which varies from space age to stone age, from animal worship and spirit worship to Christianity, is not a result of innocent, ignorant people searching for improvement. It is a direct consequence of whether the ancestors of any race worshipped the living God or deliberately rejected Him.
That’s right. According to Ken Ham and God, those dark-skinned people in Third World nations are uneducated and starving to death and riddled with disease because their ancestors deliberately rejected God.

So why, I ask, do we keep sending aid to these people? Why do we not just send them Bibles and missionaries, so they can find God, and then be blessed like Americans?

It's so obvious that this is what we must do!

I don't know about all of this, but, negros do eat a lot of ham, AKA (pork).
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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 10-29-2010, 02:44 PM

Negros are totally responsable for the high crime in America, from all the crack they sell to their own kind and idiotic white people, and they are responsable for the high sells rates of basketballs, which BTW, are produced by white people.
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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 11-03-2010, 06:45 PM

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Surprisingly — or not? — the Creation Museum openly promotes the belief that black people are the descendants of Ham, father of Canaan, whom Noah cursed to be “servant of servants”. This Biblical belief, once used to justify slavery, seems to be on the rise again.



AiG's Creation Museum Says Black People are Hamites. Click for JUMBO version. (No, really. It gets bigger!)


Ham? And was their mother Cheese? What are you talking about?

Ham was one of the three sons of Noah. You remember Noah, right? He’s the man who, with his wife, his three sons, and their wives, provided no warning whatsoever to anybody over the course of 100 years that the Lord was going to flood the Earth. (Not what you heard in Sunday School? Try the Bible, friend!)

After the Flood, Noah and family set forth to incestuously repopulate the Earth (Genesis 9). Noah decided that, since food was somehow abundant, despite the obliteration of all life on Earth, he should tend a vineyard and make wine instead of growing actual food. Apparently, Shem, Ham, and Japheth took care of growing the real food.

Noah gets hammered. Let’s see what happens!
Genesis 9: 18-27

18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
So . . . Noah cursed Ham’s son, Canaan, to be “a servant of servants”.

According to the Creation Museum, Canaan and his descendants populated Africa. They were called [the nation of] Canaan, or Canaanites.

Populated Africa . . . That’d make them black folks, huh?

The argument that Noah cursed all of Canaan’s descendants has been used for centuries to justify the enslavement of black people. And Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum continues to promote this belief.

But, Ham cries, I’m not racist! I'm just following the Bible!

On the AiG website, Biblical racial theory is expanded for us: http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...human_race.asp
All races therefore have developed from this one family since the end of the flood in Noah’s day . . . The culture (technology and religions, etc.) of each racial group in the world started at a common point -- Noah -- with full knowledge of God and a sophisticated ocean liner technology. [Yes, sophisticated ocean liner technology, the Ark. -JD] The current states of culture of the races, which varies from space age to stone age, from animal worship and spirit worship to Christianity, is not a result of innocent, ignorant people searching for improvement. It is a direct consequence of whether the ancestors of any race worshipped the living God or deliberately rejected Him.
That’s right. According to Ken Ham and God, those dark-skinned people in Third World nations are uneducated and starving to death and riddled with disease because their ancestors deliberately rejected God.

So why, I ask, do we keep sending aid to these people? Why do we not just send them Bibles and missionaries, so they can find God, and then be blessed like Americans?

It's so obvious that this is what we must do!
Surrely, you do not agree with them that Australian Aborigines is a sub type of caucastion.They look black to me.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aborigines
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Default Re: Creation Museum Says Black Folks are "Hamites" - 11-03-2010, 07:02 PM

Also they say the europians are recent race. Surly they are not saying that the asian caucasus are older,like the mixed Armenians?





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