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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:24 AM

I have a little question: What if you actually had to took the bible not litteral, but more symblolic. Does it litterally say, follow the bible word by word?

I don't think so, because I think god, or whatever that you think is above us, will be not so angry if you didn't read the bible if you were a good person.

Better a non-believer who was good and rightfull than a hypocritical, bible-reading jackass like you guys. Jesus was aguy with new ideas and phylosophie, you are litterally like the romans who stone everybody who is against you.

Jesus was good against a good man not with the romans who were believers in their own faith.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 12:12 PM

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I have a little question: What if you actually had to took the bible not litteral, but more symblolic. Does it litterally say, follow the bible word by word?

I don't think so, because I think god, or whatever that you think is above us, will be not so angry if you didn't read the bible if you were a good person.

Better a non-believer who was good and rightfull than a hypocritical, bible-reading jackass like you guys. Jesus was aguy with new ideas and phylosophie, you are litterally like the romans who stone everybody who is against you.

Jesus was good against a good man not with the romans who were believers in their own faith.
Romans just wrote what Jesus already told ages before them. See, it's God who is pressing buttons here, not you or anyone else false God or any followers of false religions.

In my opinion, catholic Pope is just trying to conguer our God's office and takeover the button. It's not happening as you can see. Many of us are here to praise The God and Satan cannot fight against Him.

What makes you think that God didn't wrote the Bible? Go and read King James Bible and see. Unquestionably, it's God's word and True Christians will follow it from word to word, just how God wanted us to follow it.

Don't you already see, good always wins, and God is good!


Leviticus 20:13, If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
2nd Chronicles 15:13, That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 12:58 PM

No, you get yours from cultural relativism. If it feels good, do it, right? Fornication, adultery, cannibalism, homosexuality . . . all fine and dandy?

Well, better prejudice don't exist, i'll leave this forum, people here just don't get some things like that they are only a minority, that they maybe couldn't have right over every subject (like atheism where quite everything is wrong, just because there's more rage in your voice than intelligence).

We'll see once in death who's right, but before that it makes no sense.

And for a intelligent forum, changing my nickname and sending stupid advertising like sodomites while i'm absolutely not, i hate it... that's more the pathetic rage of a child, looks like everyone isn't grown to the same level, probably because of that you need a goddly father...


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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 01:08 PM

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No, you get yours from cultural relativism. If it feels good, do it, right? Fornication, adultery, cannibalism, homosexuality . . . all fine and dandy?

Well, better prejudice don't exist, i'll leave this forum, people here just don't get some things like that they are only a minority, that they maybe couldn't have right over every subject (like atheism where quite everything is wrong, just because there's more rage in your voice than intelligence).

We'll see once in death who's right, but before that it makes no sense.

And for a intelligent forum, changing my nickname and sending stupid advertising like sodomites while i'm absolutely not, i hate it... that's more the pathetic rage of a child, looks like everyone isn't grown to the same level, probably because of that you need a goddly father...
I'm not suprised. All non-believers are just simple tools in the hands of The God. If you didn't know, America is chosen country, and Europe will just bite the dust, eventually.

"They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him and his enemies shall lick the dust."

"We made two of them bite the dust, and the others betake themselves to flight."

"Grant that my sword may pierce the shirt of Hector about his heart, and that full many of his comrades may bite the dust as they fall dying round him."



Leviticus 20:13, If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
2nd Chronicles 15:13, That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 02:09 PM

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Dear SUV, don't worry. Honey's not bee poop!

It's bee BARF. <-- a bee making honey
So that's what that is all over my Pretty new shoes. Now I dare not go to Church this morning but will instead have to sit here where it's warm watching Television, Snacking, calling all of my Large Baptist Family on My Cell...

But I think the Good Lord will understand. He did when Homer Simpson stayed Home from Church that one Sunday. At least for a while.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 07:18 PM

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What makes you think that God didn't wrote the Bible? Go and read King James Bible and see!
I cant get over how the fundimentalist christians keep pointing people to King James when he was GAY

In your book thats the worst thing ever, but every day they run to a book written by a gay guy to get evidence

Do you know King James had all these Gentlemen of the Bedchamber he was in love with an gave houses and titles to, and wrote love letters to where he called them husband and wife.

These were the three biggies


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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 07:31 PM

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I cant get over how the fundimentalist christians keep pointing people to King James when he was GAY

In your book thats the worst thing ever, but every day they run to a book written by a gay guy to get evidence

Do you know King James had all these Gentlemen of the Bedchamber he was in love with an gave houses and titles to, and wrote love letters to where he called them husband and wife.

These were the three biggies


1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Nice judge a man who is not here to defend himself. The good King James has been with Jesus for hundreds of years, and you wait until now to accuse him of Homersexuality. How do you know that these inflammatory letters are not a plant by atheists?
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They are all LADIES, simply look at their clothing!

JESUS! Don't you unBelievers know anything?
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They are all LADIES, simply look at their clothing!

JESUS! Don't you unBelievers know anything?
those are men, and they had male lovers. It's history, if you don't believe it, fine, it's your fantasy-world anyway.
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The good King James has been with Jesus for hundreds of years, and you wait until now to accuse him of Homersexuality. How do you know that these inflammatory letters are not a plant by atheists?
Well that makes me think the good King Jesus as you call him has been dead even longer and is not here to defend himself. How do you know the inflammatory letters as so called that make up his Bible are not a plant by religous leaders?
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Getting back on track, now that Napa Valley Man has attempted to distract us from the discussion . . .

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I thought i answered the question quite well?
Yes, you did. After you spent two paragraphs introducing your attitude by berating and attacking and insulting us for doing what God tells us to do.
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There seems to be a linguistic oddity around these parts being

God's love
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1.The wish by a divine being to see you burn and suffer forever, because he loves you

which does not fit the normally accepted definition of 'love'

p.s. if hell is tough love, what does anyone there gain except pain? Is there parole? Do they learn eternal life lessons? Do they get a sentence reduction for repentance?
Hell isn't "tough love". Who told you that?

God will not cast anyone He loves into His Lake of Fire. Only those He hates.

Whom does God hate? Anyone who refuses His Love.

How does one refuse God's Love?
  • By not believing that He came to earth as Jesus 2,000 years ago that He might sacrifice Himself to Himself, thus putting an end to the unwieldy animal sacrifice system.
  • By failing to repent -- that is, beg His forgiveness for ALL your sins, then stop sinning forever.
God doesn't want to torture anyone in Hell, except the people He creates for that purpose. People like you choose damnation when offered salvation, and He has no choice but to bodily resurrect you for Judgment, and cast you, screaming and terrified, into His Lake of Fire so He may burn you alive forever and ever.

It's punishment, not rehabilitation. No end, no escape.


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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 09:22 PM

I do not understand the point of this thread well to an extent i do if you see an atheist is it not your job as a Christian to try to convert them? don't you feel some need to but if they refuse you should just let them go on about there lives who are we to judge them? there just regular people who live regular lives just like us but they don't believe in God. So instead of insulting them you should show them the correct path.
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I do not understand the point of this thread well to an extent i do if you see an atheist is it not your job as a Christian to try to convert them? don't you feel some need to but if they refuse you should just let them go on about there lives who are we to judge them? there just regular people who live regular lives just like us but they don't believe in God. So instead of insulting them you should show them the correct path.
Interesting. I have been pondering this for some time now. I have realized that all people believe in God, eventually.
Those that do while alive on Earth, live a joyous and care free existence knowing they only have to follow the Bible and can do no wrong. They become rewarded with an eternity in blissful heaven.
Those that pish-posh God here on Earth, may think they are having a terrific existence. That is, until they die and go to Hell. It is at this point that they to, become believers in Jesus Christ. A day late and a dollar short. haha:

And yes, I am continually spreading His Word® around and converting people every chance I get, by force if need be.


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Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Getting back on track, now that Napa Valley Man has attempted to distract us from the discussion . . .
hows it derailing to bring up King James version of the Bible? Its practically all you talked about here and no matter what anyone else says, a King James quote gets thrown at them so how is it derailing it's not

But YES King James was gay. The lovers in the pictures were Esme Stewart, Robert Carr and George Villiers look it up they were real

They were real people and let me say if my husband started having all these Gentlemen of the Bedchamber and bought them houses Id be pretty suspicious

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:03 PM

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But YES King James was gay
No, he wasn't. That's an awful thing to say!!

There's no need for me to reinvent the wheel, so I'll just point you to this authority that explains it all very well.
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Was King James a Homosexual?

Such a man was sure to have enemies. One such man, Anthony Weldon, had to be excluded from the court. Weldon swore vengeance. It was not until 1650, twenty-five years after the death of James that Weldon saw his chance. He wrote a paper calling James a homosexual. Obviously, James, being dead, was in no condition to defend himself.

The report was largely ignored since there were still enough people alive who knew it wasn't true. In fact, it lay dormant for years, until recently when it was picked up by Christians who hoped that vilifying King James, would tarnish the Bible that bears his name so that Christians would turn away from God's book to a more "modern" translation.

It seems though, that Weldon's false account is being once again largely ignored by the majority of Christianity with the exception of those with an ulterior motive, such as its author had.
It might also be mentioned here that the Roman Catholic Church was so desperate to keep the true Bible out of the hands of the English people that it attempted to kill King James and all of Parliament in 1605.



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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:15 PM

What is the purpose of my life?

I strive to do good. To solve the various problems that arise in everyday life without hurting others. I do not steal, rape, or murder. I commit no crimes. Everything you believe about me was born from ignorance. Do you people even know me? You would be quite surprised to find that I am a kind person. If you think my life is worthless, you are most certainly wrong. I am literate, educated, and intelligent. Before you immediately assume that I am some sort of rapist or murderer, you should get to know me.

That, my friends, is the purpose of my life. Please note that I didn't respond to your query with such words as "pervert", "heathen", or any of the insults you apply to me and my kinsmen on a daily basis. Unlike the behavior "True Christians" commonly display on this forum, I am perfectly capable of being mature. I would also like to note that you will likely answer this speech with words of the nastiest kind. This will only prove the point that we are mature and you, grown men, are not.

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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:31 PM

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They were real people and let me say if my husband started having all these Gentlemen of the Bedchamber and bought them houses Id be pretty suspicious
Given the fact that you are a dyke enabler would you care if your husband went homer? NO
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:40 PM

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No, he wasn't. That's an awful thing to say!!.
so what do you call men who have 'gentlemen of the bedchamber' they call their wife in letters?

and since you brought up 1 quote saying King James WASNT gay maybe the world should know about these too that say he WAS gay and they can make up minds for themself.
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  1. <LI id=cite_note-bucholz-0>^ Bucholz, Robert; Key, Newton (2004), Early Modern England, 1485-1714: A Narrative History, Blackwell Publishing, ISBN 0631213937 <LI id=cite_note-barroll-1>^ Barroll, J. Leeds; Cerasano, Susan P. (1996), Medieval and Renaissance Drama in England: An Annual Gathering of Research, Criticism and Reviews, Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, ISBN 0838636411 <LI id=cite_note-aldrich-2>^ Aldrich, Robert; Wotherspoon, Garry (2001), Who's Who in Gay and Lesbian History: From Antiquity to World War II, Routledge, pp. 226–7, ISBN 0415159822 <LI id=cite_note-sharpe-3>^ Sharpe, Kevin M. (2000), Remapping Early Modern England: The Culture of Seventeenth-century England, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0521664098 <LI id=cite_note-bentham-4>^ Bentham, Jeremy; Crompton, Louis (1978), "Offences Against One's Self", Journal of Homosexuality 3 (4): 389–405; continued in v.4:1(1978), doi:10.1300/J082v03n04_07, http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/eresources/exhibitions/sw25/bentham/index.html#01 <LI id=cite_note-Bergeron-5>^ a b Bergeron, David Moore (1999), King James and Letters of Homoerotic Desire, University of Iowa Press, ISBN 978-0877456698 <LI id=cite_note-crompton-6>^ a b c Crompton, Louis (2003), Homosexuality & Civilization, Boston: Belknap/Harvard University Press, pp. 381–388, ISBN 978-0674011977 <LI id=cite_note-willson-7>^ Willson, David Harris (1956 (1963 edition)), King James VI & I, London: Jonathan Cape Ltd, ISBN 0224605720 <LI id=cite_note-8>^ Homosexuality & Civilization By Louis Crompton; p.386 <LI id=cite_note-9>^ "The first of [his favorites] was Robert Carr, for whom the King acquired a peculiar affection while he was lying wounded from an accident at a tournament. Carr had been his page in Scotland, and the King, feeling a natural interest in him, visited him and fell in love with his beauty. [...] Already before the death of Cecil the presents he received to win the King's favour had made his fortune. His royal lover had made him Earl of Rochester and Knight of the Garter." A History of England By James Franck Bright; p.597 <LI id=cite_note-10>^ Homosexuality & Civilization By Louis Crompton; p.387 <LI id=cite_note-11>^ Ten Lives of the Greatest Monarchs of History By Mohsin Ashraf; p.104 <LI id=cite_note-hyde-12>^ Hyde, H. Montgomery (1970), The Love That Dared not Speak its Name, Boston: Little, Brown, pp. 44, 143
  2. ^ Graham, Fiona (2008-06-05). "To the manor bought". BBC News (BBC). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7436409.stm. Retrieved 2008-09-24.
  • Young, Michael B. (2000) King James and the History of Homosexuality. New York: New York University Press. ISBN 978-0814796931
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:46 PM

some one changed the spacing that looks like 2 books that are listed but its 14

I wish people would stop changing post here to make other people look bad. so we disagree. its not grown up to change posts after theyre up.
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Default Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives? - 01-23-2011, 10:52 PM

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some one changed the spacing that looks like 2 books that are listed but its 14

I wish people would stop changing post here to make other people look bad. so we disagree. its not grown up to change posts after theyre up.
Nappa Valley Man, you need to stay away from the vino for awhile. no one changed anything. tell me do you see pink elephants dancing?
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