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04-21-2010, 01:41 PM
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As I said, I sort of expected this to be your answer. While I was standing in line to buy my lunch, I was thinking about how God apparently makes his will known through humans, hence the bible, which was written by people.
But people make mistakes, right? And then it hit me. The beginning of Genesis.
In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes? Doesn't he make errors? So isn't his faith in using humans to write the bible, which today, bares little resemblance to the original manuscripts, also open to mistakes?
I realize that this sort of thinking is probably what you would deem heretical, irreligious and quite possibly offensive.
But if God exists, and He made me in His image, then He intended me to be this way. With purpose, He made my mind work in a way that questions everything and takes nothing at face value.
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These are quite convincing arguments. gj
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These are quite convincing arguments. gj
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Oh wow you guys are good. After reading some other threads it's obvious this forum is true religion.
I've been trolled, I'll go ahead and leave now.
Do you often lie?
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[...]In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes?
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Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.
If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.
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04-21-2010, 02:42 PM
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Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.
If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.
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But "image" actually means more than just about the visual representation though. Why not say "and God made man to look upon as you would he" or something equally specific? All I'm saying that as one of the opening passages in the Bible, it's quite open to interpretation depending on your existing views.
I don't like going into the meta-mechanics of the meaning of a word, but 'image' means far more than just an optical representation. It's only since the advent of TV's and computers that we've come to only associate the word with such a narrow meaning.
But back in the days when the bible as we know it today, was being compiled (around the 13th century I think) and edited from the original manuscripts, 'image' would also mean "an embodiment" or "a copy" or even "a counterpart".
If you want it to mean something that is merely a physical representation, then that's fair enough.
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04-21-2010, 02:44 PM
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GOD HATES ICELAND!
The Icelandic Flag mocks the cross by turning it sideways. Satanists mock Jesus by turning a cross upside down. This is very similar. This is proof that Iceland hates Jesus!
Iceland is a Scandinavian country, located in the North Atlantic ocean. Nothing much happens there, but it still cannot escape the wrath of our Lord. Let us look at the many reasons why this nation offends our Lord.
- They are Godless. Most Icelanders are atheists or worship pagan Viking gods. The few Christians are Lutherans, who are hellbound anyways. There is not a single Baptist church in Iceland!
- God cursed this land with geography. Iceland is mostly ice, hence the name "Iceland". There is also a lot of volcanic and geyser activity, due to the close proximity of Hell. We know for a fact that Hell is underneath the Earth, and Iceland is one of the closest places on the surface to Hell. You can look at Iceland as a gateway between Hell and Earth.
- God punished their economy by bankrupting them. While they were once successful, the Lord sought to destroy them economically. But do they learn from their punishments? No.
- The most famous Icelander is Bjork, who is a disgusting race-mixing harlot who dresses up in strange apparel (Zeph 1:8) and fornicates with negroes (Ezra 9:2). She is a national folk hero.
- They elect women as prime ministers even though the Bible specifically forbids women from ruling over men! 1st Timothy 2:12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
- They are weak pacifists and don't have an army. They have universal health care. In other words, it's Obama's utopia.
- Iceland wants to destroy the traditional family so they've legalized gay marriage! They create laws to mock God! Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
- Iceland promotes sorcery and witchcraft. They worship Satan and perform rituals that animate trolls and ogres and other demons to do their bidding. They even have a museum dedicated to their Satan worship!
- But not even that museum could offend the decency of True Christians™ like the National Penis Museum. Yes, Iceland has erected a building glorifying the penis! What a sick sex-obsessed heathen society.
All people of Iceland need to repent and accept Jesus Christ as their savior! Until then, they will suffer and will burn in Hell along with other God-mocking countries like Australia, England, Scotland, Denmark, Germany, France, Italy, Hungary, Russia, China, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ukraine, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa, New Zealand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Guatemala, Algeria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, etc.
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I'm gonna prof you wrong
This is the norwegian flag you pifflein mormon
1. we picked up christianity in the year 1000
2. ok we do have a lot of volcanos & so does hawai we are not covered with ice except for the winter greenland is covered with ice & its called GREEN land so don't think about the name.
3. umm why punish us what did we ever do wrong here.
4. oh no she is not our hero & we have anita briem wich I think is getting more succesfull.
5. are you just desprete for being as offensive as you can.
6. Obama is a genius, we don't need an army so why have one & universal health care is good.
7. there are many places in the U.S where gay marriage is allowed.
8. umm I don't know about you bot trolls were believed in the old times.
9. ok this one I'm with you I don't know why we have penis museum.
First reserch the country before you talk about it you are the most idiot in the world
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Re: God Hates Iceland! -
04-21-2010, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenOfTranquility
But people make mistakes, right? And then it hit me. The beginning of Genesis.
In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes? Doesn't he make errors? So isn't his faith in using humans to write the bible, which today, bares little resemblance to the original manuscripts, also open to mistakes?
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You ask a reasonable question. The point is that you are overlooking an essential part of Genesis here. It is called the Fall of Man:
Genesis 2:15-17:
And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Consequently, man disobeyed:
Genesis 3:6-7:
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
The important part is: here man sinned, while God never sinned. The Fall of Man caused man to become imperfect, which is why man makes mistakes. God, however, does not, and His Infallibility is proclaimed in many different parts of the Bible:
2 Samuel 22:31:
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.
Habakkuk 1:13:
Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?
Titus 1:1-3:
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour
Hebrews 4:15:
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
1 Peter 2:21-22:
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth
2 Corinthians 5:20-21:
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
1 Peter 1:18-19:
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot
So you see, possibly the greatest difference between God and man is that God is infallible.
And again, 2 Timothy 3:16 teaches that the Bible is the Word of God, not of man, so the question is not whether man is fallible (he certainly is) but whether God is fallible (He certainly is not). And as God is omnipotent, He is perfectly able to keep the errors of man out of His Word.
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I realize that this sort of thinking is probably what you would deem heretical, irreligious and quite possibly offensive.
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It may be, but I get the impression that you are a potential True Christian™, so I gladly educate you about God's Word.
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But if God exists, and He made me in His image, then He intended me to be this way. With purpose, He made my mind work in a way that questions everything and takes nothing at face value.
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Well, the questioning mind, as I've tried to make clear, is a result of the Fall of Man, as before that, man simply obeyed God, but afterwards his "eyes were opened," which means that man got the ability to disobey God by "critical thinking," instead of obedience. Faith is a matter of the Heart, not of the brain.
Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
Praised be Your Glorious Name™.
Amen.
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Re: God Hates Iceland! -
04-21-2010, 02:58 PM
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Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.
If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.
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Oh i love this picture, he´s combing his hair with his fingers and teeth,
how nice .
Maby a towelhead (as you call them) translated the bible just to keep
you guys away from other people .
Today pople make pc viruses to destroy computers, maby the bible
is an old way to make a virus .
Well at least we have the gates to hell, you have the bible to throw into
it, but it dosen´t work.
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04-21-2010, 03:02 PM
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I have reason to believe most-if not all- people from iceland are homosexual
The scum will rot in hell.
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the fewer part of iceland is homosexual. WOW you guys are idiots
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04-21-2010, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the response, True Disciple. I'll mull over your post when I have a few quiet moments this evening.
I have received an infraction though, so if I have any more debatable points, you may not hear of them. But this is ok...this is not the place for debate, as pointed out, and I have no issues with that. I didn't come here to "rock the boat" merely to gain understanding.
I do appreciate your willingness to spar with me verbally, and not merely talk down or insult me.
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04-21-2010, 03:07 PM
9. Well about the penis museum, i went there last year to see and there were many tourists there.
And what did i see there, 3 lutherans, 2 from US and 1 from Canada,
maby we should have killed them for seeing the penises.
( Canada, what a strange name, i can´t see if it means anything,
at least Iceland means something).
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Re: God Hates Iceland! -
04-21-2010, 05:32 PM
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Do you believe that the Bering Straits exist, and have you ever been there?
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I do believe it exists and I have been there too
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Fire Island is filled with Sodomites. I regularly went there when I was a traded on AMEX in what unfortunately was a futile attempt at getting them to sign up for the B.A.S.H program. 15 long, hot, sweaty summers and not a single convert. At least I tried hard.
The part that has me confused about is why it is so close to the US of A. You'd think God would of placed close to its' sister island, new zooland. Not that I am questioning Him, mind you, just a mere insignificant observation, Jesus.
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Just curious, what arguments did you use in your attempt to convert people? perhaps you could give an example?
There is nothing to be confused about, you guys are next in line for the fire and brimstone.
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So... asking a valid question is mocking?
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Nononon around these parts it lies closer to blasphemy than mocking
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04-21-2010, 05:52 PM
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Just curious, what arguments did you use in your attempt to convert people? perhaps you could give an example?
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Easy: Convert or go to HELL !!!
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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04-21-2010, 05:56 PM
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Easy: Convert or go to HELL !!!
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Heh, such an argument would quite likely have hospitalized him XD nah just kidding, but such an argument would very likely get folks to turn their back to him.
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04-21-2010, 06:00 PM
@ Big God Denier Why would those people turn their backs to Jesus? Do they not want to go to Heaven? # Psalm 9:17
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04-21-2010, 06:10 PM
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I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering.
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04-21-2010, 06:13 PM
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I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering. They accept that Jesus was a historical figure and leave it at that, it is not the same as turning their backs to him.
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04-21-2010, 06:19 PM
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I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering. They accept that Jesus was a historical figure and leave it at that, it is not the same as turning their backs to him.
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You cannot both accept and ignore the Lord. It doesn't work that way. We are talking about the Bible and Jesus here, not your schoolbooks.
Matthew 13:41-43 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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04-21-2010, 06:22 PM
@ Big God Denier But those men are only telling the truth! You have to choose Jesus to be allowed into Heaven. Why do they not want that? # John 14:1-4
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04-21-2010, 08:28 PM
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Well.. That's a good question. I think everyone want's to go to heaven, what ever heaven is to them. To some, it's trying to be a good person and help other people and to some it's the word-to-word bible ride. But think of it like this: if these ignorant people who call themselves "true Christians" and preach biggotry, hate and racism in the name of Jesus on these boards would go to heaven, it would become Hell. If the heaven is indeed a place for people who believe that model trains are devils work, it's not heaven, it's an insane asylum. I know this is a community and as such you try to respect your peers, and that's a good thing, having respect, but you must also understand that in your peers you have people like Rev. Jim Osborne, who clearly is nothing more than an uneducated, simple mind speaking from a hole that is located a couple of feet south (or should I say closer to Hell) than his mouth. Then there are people like True Disciple, who are actually capable of making a point and making some sense and discussing instead of just pouring hateful words regarding thing he has no knowledge about. There is a big difference. Now, I know that you people on these boards will tell me that I'll burn in Hell for saiyng that, and you're free to believe that. Me, I just pray these people with their hateful mouths will some day feel the true Love of God and repent.
Now you can look at what this so called Reverend Osborne started this thread with and ask yourself if taking advice from a man who has no idea what he is talking about is such a good idea. I suggest you look into the Bible and let it guide, instead of listening to people who are just trying to gain money and power in the name of Jesus. This man starts attacking a country he knows nothing about, posts the wrong flag, doesn't know the religious demography he is attacking, pulls ideas of countrys name out of thin air while clearly showing he doesn't know anything about said country. He goes even further by claiming that God punished Iceland with bankrupcy while having the flag of United States of America next to him while forgetting that unfortunately US budget deficit is so horrible, that even if every dollar in excistence would be used to pay the debt, it would still be like a drop in the ocean and that if China decided to claim those debts, it would be the end of USA.
All I'm saying, that it's all in the Bible, there's no need for you to follow blind, ignorant people like this. And it's ignorant people like this who cause all this trolling on these boards. I don't think most of these people who post here just to annoy people like so called Reverend wan't to go to Hell. It's just a reaction to sickness that is being spread through the hateful words of these sad, greedy people who think they have the right to tell God who he hates and why.
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04-21-2010, 08:48 PM
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Well.. That's a good question. I think everyone want's to go to heaven, what ever heaven is to them. To some, it's trying to be a good person and help other people and to some it's the word-to-word bible ride. But think of it like this: if these ignorant people who call themselves "true Christians" and preach biggotry, hate and racism in the name of Jesus on these boards would go to heaven, it would become Hell. If the heaven is indeed a place for people who believe that model trains are devils work, it's not heaven, it's an insane asylum. I know this is a community and as such you try to respect your peers, and that's a good thing, having respect, but you must also understand that in your peers you have people like Rev. Jim Osborne, who clearly is nothing more than an uneducated, simple mind speaking from a hole that is located a couple of feet south (or should I say closer to Hell) than his mouth. Then there are people like True Disciple, who are actually capable of making a point and making some sense and discussing instead of just pouring hateful words regarding thing he has no knowledge about. There is a big difference. Now, I know that you people on these boards will tell me that I'll burn in Hell for saiyng that, and you're free to believe that. Me, I just pray these people with their hateful mouths will some day feel the true Love of God and repent.
Now you can look at what this so called Reverend Osborne started this thread with and ask yourself if taking advice from a man who has no idea what he is talking about is such a good idea. I suggest you look into the Bible and let it guide, instead of listening to people who are just trying to gain money and power in the name of Jesus. This man starts attacking a country he knows nothing about, posts the wrong flag, doesn't know the religious demography he is attacking, pulls ideas of countrys name out of thin air while clearly showing he doesn't know anything about said country. He goes even further by claiming that God punished Iceland with bankrupcy while having the flag of United States of America next to him while forgetting that unfortunately US budget deficit is so horrible, that even if every dollar in excistence would be used to pay the debt, it would still be like a drop in the ocean and that if China decided to claim those debts, it would be the end of USA.
All I'm saying, that it's all in the Bible, there's no need for you to follow blind, ignorant people like this. And it's ignorant people like this who cause all this trolling on these boards. I don't think most of these people who post here just to annoy people like so called Reverend wan't to go to Hell. It's just a reaction to sickness that is being spread through the hateful words of these sad, greedy people who think they have the right to tell God who he hates and why.
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Great words eaven for non believer like myself! In my opinion IF God exists person like me who respects other people, respects life, nature, world, respects everyone and everything and tries to do best he can to help people who needs help etc... Goes to heaven more likely than person who simply mock people, and judge every single human being exept those whos not "true believers of god". Im not so great in english so I hope everyone understood my point.
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