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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 10:46 PM
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Forget the whole "but good Christian women can protect themselves" thing and just answer the hypothetical question.
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You don't get it, a good Christian woman is under the protection of God and of her father, brothers and church society.
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If your daughter was raped by me, would you allow me to marry her once i paid you 50 shekels of silver worth? She would be damaged property after all.
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You're really obsessed with this, do you think this is the only way that you are going to be capable of gaining a wife?
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And if the rape was planned out, or the attacker/rapist knew how to disarm or attack an armed person i doubt an inexperienced woman simply in possession of a fire arms would be able to do anything about it.
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Well IF I had a daughter, 1. she would not be inexperienced with firearms 2. She would almost always have a protection dog with her 3. She would not put herself into situations where you could get at her. Do you really think we allow our women to go out alone? To be unescorted on dates? No.
The law is quite clear, if you rape the woman in the city and she cries out, I have the Biblical and secular law on my side to kill you.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 10:50 PM
It is a hypothetical question and you keep dodging it, if your daughter was successfully raped by me and unable to cry out or went unheard would you let me marry her once i paid the 50 shekels of silver worth to you?
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 10:56 PM
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It is a hypothetical question and you keep dodging it, if your daughter was successfully raped by me and unable to cry out or went unheard would you let me marry her once i paid the 50 shekels of silver worth to you?
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And I keep telling you that you would not hypothetically live.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 11:01 PM
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And I keep telling you that you would not hypothetically live.
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Do you even know what hypothetical means?
Given those set of conditions i outlined would you or would you not let her marry me for the price of 50 shekels of silver worth? It is a hypothetical question which still remains unanswered.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 11:20 PM
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Do you even know what hypothetical means?
Given those set of conditions i outlined would you or would you not let her marry me for the price of 50 shekels of silver worth? It is a hypothetical question which still remains unanswered.
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Yes I know what hypothetical means, and I'm telling you that it is impossible so why should I bother answering?
If you hypothetically built a ladder to the moon, would you snack on the green cheese?
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 11:37 PM
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Yes I know what hypothetical means, and I'm telling you that it is impossible so why should I bother answering?
If you hypothetically built a ladder to the moon, would you snack on the green cheese?
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Well obviously you actually don't know what hypothetical means because you keep saying it is impossible (even though it isn't impossible but that isn't important). Hypothetically speaking means to go under the assumption that it actually did happen without it actually happening in this context.
Now answer the question....
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-28-2010, 11:42 PM
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Well obviously you actually don't know what hypothetical means because you keep saying it is impossible (even though it isn't impossible but that isn't important). Hypothetically speaking means to go under the assumption that it actually did happen without it actually happening in this context.
Now answer the question....
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Yet you didn't answer my hypothetical question because it's silly and impossible. That is the same reason I am not answering your question.
Read Deuteronomy 22 Your answer is in there.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 12:02 AM
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It is a hypothetical question and you keep dodging it, if your daughter was successfully raped by me and unable to cry out or went unheard would you let me marry her once i paid the 50 shekels of silver worth to you?
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What is this aggressive line of questioning about? Are you here trying to catch us in a contradiction of some kind, boy?
The answer is: True Christians™ follow the Holy Word of God ON ALL MATTERS, without exception.
The real question is, why don't you?
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 12:03 AM
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Yet you didn't answer my hypothetical question because it's silly and impossible. That is the same reason I am not answering your question.
Read Deuteronomy 22 Your answer is in there.
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Ok, well hypothetically if i were to climb on a ladder to the moon i would not snack on the "green cheese" since there is no such thing as green cheese on the moon. But let us even say hypothetically there was green cheese on the moon, i would not eat it.
I suggest you get an education and learn what the word hypothetically actually means and how it is used. I also suggest you stop dodging the question and just answer the hypothetical question i put forward.
It most certainly is possible, women get raped all the time. Your daughter could possibly be raped, it is a possibility. It is not impossible. So stop acting like it could never ever ever happen.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 12:28 AM
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Ok, well hypothetically if i were to climb on a ladder to the moon i would not snack on the "green cheese" since there is no such thing as green cheese on the moon. But let us even say hypothetically there was green cheese on the moon, i would not eat it.
I suggest you get an education and learn what the word hypothetically actually means and how it is used. I also suggest you stop dodging the question and just answer the hypothetical question i put forward.
It most certainly is possible, women get raped all the time. Your daughter could possibly be raped, it is a possibility. It is not impossible. So stop acting like it could never ever ever happen.
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How about your daughter? or your mother?
Will you said you are the biproduct of your mother being raped by your father, legally by law of marraige?
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 12:39 AM
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Ok, well hypothetically if i were to climb on a ladder to the moon i would not snack on the "green cheese" since there is no such thing as green cheese on the moon. But let us even say hypothetically there was green cheese on the moon, i would not eat it.
I suggest you get an education and learn what the word hypothetically actually means and how it is used. I also suggest you stop dodging the question and just answer the hypothetical question i put forward.
It most certainly is possible, women get raped all the time. Your daughter could possibly be raped, it is a possibility. It is not impossible. So stop acting like it could never ever ever happen.
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If I was dodging your hypothetical question I would say my daughter couldn't get raped, because I don't have a daughter. I gave you my answer, or are you so filled with Satan that you can't even look at a link to the KJV Bible?
I'm really starting to get concerned about your obsession with rape though. Maybe you should turn yourself into the authorities before you do anything rash.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 12:49 AM
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If I was dodging your hypothetical question I would say my daughter couldn't get raped, because I don't have a daughter. I gave you my answer, or are you so filled with Satan that you can't even look at a link to the KJV Bible?
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It still very clear you have little to no understanding of what the word hypothetical means and how it is applied. You have a round about answer in the form of "go read this Bible passage".
I want you to actually type it, to actually admit that if you, hypothetically speaking, had a daughter, and she, hypothetically speaking, was raped by me...Would you allow her to marry me if i paid you 50 shekels of silver worth? Remember this is a hypothetical question. If you are unsure of what the word means, by all means.. LOOK IT UP!
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 01:16 AM
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It still very clear you have little to no understanding of what the word hypothetical means and how it is applied. You have a round about answer in the form of "go read this Bible passage".
I want you to actually type it, to actually admit that if you, hypothetically speaking, had a daughter, and she, hypothetically speaking, was raped by me...Would you allow her to marry me if i paid you 50 shekels of silver worth? Remember this is a hypothetical question. If you are unsure of what the word means, by all means.. LOOK IT UP!
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 01:30 AM
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So you admittedly would not allow her to marry me? Which is going against what the Bible says and what others have agreed the Bible says.
What does the opening poster, revrggreen, and any "true christian" on these forums have to say about this?
What would your answers be given the same hypothetical question?
It would be a very simple answer for me, i would immediately disregard whatever any holy book teaches and base my actions on my own morals and values. I would certainly not let a man who raped my daughter marry her.
But for those that claim to be "true christians" on these forums, how do you go against your own thoughts and feelings? What do you do in such a conflict between what the Bible says, what your faith is apparently telling you to do and what your conscience is telling you?
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 01:36 AM
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So you admittedly would not allow her to marry me? Which is going against what the Bible says and what others have agreed the Bible says.
What does the opening poster, revrggreen, and any "true christian" on these forums have to say about this?
What would your answers be given the same hypothetical question?
It would be a very simple answer for me, i would immediately disregard whatever any holy book teaches and base my actions on my own morals and values. I would certainly not let a man who raped my daughter marry her.
But for those that claim to be "true christians" on these forums, how do you go against your own thoughts and feelings? What do you do in such a conflict between what the Bible says, what your faith is apparently telling you to do and what your conscience is telling you?
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No, I'm not going to write it out for you. You have the Biblical text.
You may want to look beside my name, I'm another one of those Evil True Christians™ No we do not disregard anything the Bible says because we don't like it. Doing that is a one way ticket to hell.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
04-29-2010, 01:43 AM
Anyway, he hypothetically answered you back a ways. You rape our daughter, you don't live to see the next day.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
06-12-2011, 01:45 PM
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A rape victim MUST marry her rapist, and the rape victim's father must be compensated for depreciation of his property.
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But what if the rapist doesnt want to marry the victim?:O
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
06-12-2011, 02:26 PM
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But what if the rapist doesnt want to marry the victim?:O
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He must marry the virgin and stay with her,
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The situation is different if the the girl was engaged to be married and is raped in the city. They both have to be killed in that situation. The man for taking another man's property and the woman for not cying out loud enough so clearly a slut.
Deuteronomy 22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
06-13-2011, 12:22 PM
I am strongly considering sending my oldest daughter to J .C. (great initials, don't you think) Penny to buy some spandex and send her to NYC for the summer.
You see, she is nearly 20 and still sponging from me. I will admit, most of the house guests we have had here on the Hutchins Plantation have told me she has been attentive to their needs and I appreciate that but gosh darn it, she needs a husband and start making soldiers for Jesus.
I was thinking about getting her an apartment on 10th near the Lincoln tunnel. I am sure a girl of her qualifications will find a man the first night.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap -
06-13-2011, 01:25 PM
That´s very serious, I doubt any man would rape a well dressed girl, the least she can do is to marry him!
but please tell me what happens if the rapist refuses to marry his victim? other then just burning in hell, of course.
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