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Default Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 02:27 PM

God is unhappy. Pope Francis visited Bethlehem and God's anger is evident:


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A fire broke out in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, just hours after Pope Francis wrapped up a three-day Middle East pilgrimage which saw him visit the shrine.
Bethlehem governor Abdel-Fatah Hamayel said it was a small fire which had broken out accidentally when an oil lamp fell over just before dawn on Tuesday, causing some damage to fabric wall hangings inside the Grotto of the Nativity itself.
'It was an accident that started when an oil lamp fell over. The fire started on its own, then burned itself out,' he said.
The fire, which was discovered at around 4:30 am local time when the security guard smelled smoke, broke out in the cave underneath the 4th-century basilica where Christians believe Mary gave birth to Jesus.
Inside, the charred remains of several brightly-coloured wall hangings hung limply against the cave walls which were blackened with soot. Two ornate icons of Mary holding Jesus sustained smoke damage.
A statement from Bethlehem police said a wooden-topped bowl had caught fire at the entrance to the grotto which caused 'candles to fall down and set fire to curtains,' with a number of wall tiles also cracking in the heat.
Hamayel said similar accidents had happened in the past.
'We have asked those who work there many times to put out the oil lamps and candles when the church closes at 6 pm,' he said.
Pope Francis visited the church on Sunday after celebrating an open-air mass in Bethlehem's Manger Square at the start of the Israeli-Palestinian leg of his Middle East pilgrimage, which began in Jordan on Saturday.
The basilica, which was built by the Roman emperor Constantine, attracts more than a million pilgrims every year, making it the biggest tourist attraction in the occupied Palestinian territories outside Israeli-annexed east Jerusalem.
In a separate development, police were on Tuesday investigating an arson attempt at Jerusalem's Church of the Dormition which occurred shortly after the pope finished celebrating mass in the nearby Upper Room.
'Someone entered the church and went down to the crypt, took a book that is used by pilgrims to a small room next to the organ, and set some wooded crosses on fire,' Benedictine Abbot Nikodemus Schnabel said late on Monday.
Inside the room, which smelled strongly of smoke, a small pile of burned crosses lay smouldering in a heap, an AFP photographer reported.
Germany's deputy ambassador to Israel, Benedikt Haller, visited the German-funded church on Mount Zion Tuesday, a statement from his office said.
'I am shocked by yesterday's fire,' it quoted him as saying. 'Fortunately nobody was hurt.
'We condemn all forms of violence against religious sites and representatives of religious institutions.
'Religious institutions in Israel must be assured adequate protection to ensure that such incidents do not occur again.'
Why did the oil lamp fall over? God pushed it.
Someone set wooden crosses on fire. Yes, it was God.
God was angry that the heathen papist leader had blasphemed the birthplace of his son. But what a quandary for God! He had to express his anger, but he couldn't destroy such a Holy place.
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 03:16 PM

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Why did the oil lamp fall over? God pushed it.
Someone set wooden crosses on fire. Yes, it was God.
God was angry that the heathen papist leader had blasphemed the birthplace of his son. But what a quandary for God! He had to express his anger, but he couldn't destroy such a Holy place.
Amen, Sister! God always knows how to handle the situation.

And did you notice this part?

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Two ornate icons of Mary holding Jesus sustained smoke damage.

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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 04:27 PM

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God is unhappy. Pope Francis visited Bethlehem and God's anger is evident:



Why did the oil lamp fall over? God pushed it.
Someone set wooden crosses on fire. Yes, it was God.
God was angry that the heathen papist leader had blasphemed the birthplace of his son. But what a quandary for God! He had to express his anger, but he couldn't destroy such a Holy place.
Uh . . . no, dear well-meaning but misguided Lady

It is of course evident that the devil pushed that lamp and set fire on the crosses.
Fire is the common weapon of the devil, also pushing an oil lamp is so low that it is typical for him. And why in the world would God set fire on C r o s s e s even in anger???

The angered devil rightly sees that Pope Francis is closing in on him, leading people all over the world away from the path to hell and into Catholic salvation


Ex 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; <--- That includes Mary
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 04:45 PM

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...And why in the world would God set fire on C r o s s e s even in anger???...
Silly pseudocatholic, trying to figure out why God does things.

The True Christians™ know they'll never understand much about anything, because that's what the Bible says faithful people believe:

Isaiah 55:8-9 "8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, Neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are my ways higher than your ways, And my thoughts than your thoughts."



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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 05:40 PM

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Amen, Sister! God always knows how to handle the situation.

And did you notice this part?



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I recognice that the Mother of God Icons wonderfully were not destroyed like the other ornaments were

That just reminds me of one of the other Miraculous Savings of Images that show the Godly Virgin Mary

Miracle in Mexico: Our Lady of Guadalupe Portrait Emerges Intact From Fire
All that remains of St. Augustín Chapel is a concrete slab and stacks of blackened smoke-stained cinder blocks, except for an unexpected discovery that some feel is a miracle in a city desperately in need of some.

After the June 13 fire was extinguished, a fireman brought Rev. Benjamín Gaytán, the Roman Catholic priest who serves as the pastor of the chapel, a large wood framed portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe that once hung in the church.
It's more than a miracle, it was extraordinary considering everything else in the church was destroyed.
- Rev. Benjamín Gaytán

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/com...act-from-fire/


Ex 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; <--- That includes Mary
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-27-2014, 05:48 PM

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I recognice that the Mother of God Icons wonderfully were not destroyed like the other ornaments were.
You mean they didn't burn like the curtains did?


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Miracle in Mexico: Our Lady of Guadalupe Portrait Emerges Intact From Fire
All that remains of St. Augustín Chapel is a concrete slab and stacks of blackened smoke-stained cinder blocks, except for an unexpected discovery that some feel is a miracle in a city desperately in need of some.

After the June 13 fire was extinguished, a fireman brought Rev. Benjamín Gaytán, the Roman Catholic priest who serves as the pastor of the chapel, a large wood framed portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe that once hung in the church.
It's more than a miracle, it was extraordinary considering everything else in the church was destroyed.
- Rev. Benjamín Gaytán

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/com...act-from-fire/
So it was God who helped those people break not one but two of His commandments?

[Exodus 20:3-6 KJV] 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

I somehow rather doubt that.

[Matthew 12:25 KJV] 25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:


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So it was God who helped those people break not one but two of His commandments?

[Exodus 20:3-6 KJV] 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

I somehow rather doubt that.

[Matthew 12:25 KJV] 25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
You seem to hold our Father in Heaven not in a very high esteem
Even the lowest of sinners can naturally be expected to save his own mother from burning if given the choice
So why would God himself decline his own Holy Mother his protection
And to give you further stuff for thinking: Why would God himself break his own commandment
Exodus 20:12

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.


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Uh . . . no, dear well-meaning but misguided Lady

It is of course evident that the devil pushed that lamp and set fire on the crosses.
Fire is the common weapon of the devil
Here again one papist speaking some crap.

The LORD uses whatever weapon HE wants!!!
Read the real BIBLE - fire IS LORD'S WEAPON!

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You seem to hold our Father in Heaven not in a very high esteem
Says the person who obviously doesn't trust Almighty God to get His point across.
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And to give you further stuff for thinking: Why would God himself break his own commandment
Exodus 20:12

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Where does the Bible say that we should have idols of our parents?


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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 12:03 PM

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Fire is the common weapon of the devil,
Are you suggesting the devil destroyed Sodom?


Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; KJV

II Samuel 22:7-16 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind. And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled. The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them. And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils. KJV
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 12:23 PM

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Uh . . . no, dear well-meaning but misguided Lady

It is of course evident that the devil pushed that lamp and set fire on the crosses.
Fire is the common weapon of the devil, also pushing an oil lamp is so low that it is typical for him. And why in the world would God set fire on C r o s s e s even in anger???

The angered devil rightly sees that Pope Francis is closing in on him, leading people all over the world away from the path to hell and into Catholic salvation
Fire is a common weapon of the Lord, you ignorant Mary worshipping papist.

Genesis 19:24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

2 Chronicles 7:1 Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled the house.

Amos 1:4 But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, Which shall devour the palaces of Ben-hadad.

Amos 1:7 But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, Which shall devour the palaces thereof:

Amos 1:10 But I will send a fire on the wall of Tyrus, Which shall devour the palaces thereof.

Amos 1:12But I will send a fire upon Teman, Which shall devour the palaces of Bozrah

Amos 1:14 But I will kindle a fire in the wall of Rabbah, And it shall devour the palaces thereof, With shouting in the day of battle, With a tempest in the day of the whirlwind:

Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?


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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 01:40 PM

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Fire is a common weapon of the Lord, you ignorant Mary worshipping papist.
. . . mumble . . . mumble . . . more feminine mumbling . . . rant rant . . . blah blah blah . . .
Need I go on? I can if you wish.
Clearly you so fanatically hang yourself up on the word "fire" because you have not one good idea how to counter my other arguments
Thats poorAnd you do think of fire very often, yes ? Perhaps thats a foreseeing to your own future


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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 01:48 PM

You really do talk rubbish. I don't spend much time thinking of Satan, as I'll never meet him. You on the other hand, think of him every waking moment, because you know you will spend eternity with him. My dreams are not of Satan, but of the Lord. I know the ways of the Lord; you know the ways of Satan.
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 08:24 PM

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Fire is a common weapon of the Lord, you ignorant Mary worshipping papist.

Genesis 19:24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.....
My favorite is Numbers 21:6:

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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 09:45 PM

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Clearly you so fanatically hang yourself up on the word "fire" because you have not one good idea how to counter my other arguments
Thats poorAnd you do think of fire very often, yes ? Perhaps thats a foreseeing to your own future
Sorry, you poor creature, but no-one here is interested of your "arguments". The only reason why you are answered is, that GOOD CHRISTIANS here want to SAVE YOUR SOUL. They know that you are very weak in faith.

Romans 14:1

Your opinions are interesting if you have some scriptures which point to us, you are right. Arguments that are created in your own "mind" by your own "wisdom", are not interesting.
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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-28-2014, 11:28 PM

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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-29-2014, 01:01 AM

I see the usual doominazis are chattering again in a sad effort to diminish the brilliant glow of the Pope's trip to the Middle East and his usual warm effect on everyone he meets, greets and eats with!

If anyone was running around causing fires it surely was the Devil as he, like the jealous punters here, just hates it when the love of Jesus and the word of God is so effectively spread to all peoples of the world.

Needless to say, our Heavenly Father would be watching over his Holiness and making sure nothing would come of Satan's mischief and clearly this was the case!

We might soon have to give Francis a new name and the one that appears most fitting these days is Pope Midas... as everything he touches these days seems to turn to gold.





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I for one am not going to take the word of anyone that worships Our Lady of Guacamole.


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Default Re: Pope causes 2 fires in Bethlehem - 05-29-2014, 02:03 AM

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Pope's trip to the Middle East and his usual warm effect
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The warm effect - causing the Lord to light fires.
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