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Default There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 03:57 PM

Brothers and Sisters, I've recently become aware of the existence of ex-christian.net, a site that purports to "support" people who are questioning their faith or thinking about leaving the church. The name is misleading, however, as the Bible makes it clear that there is no such thing as an ex-Christian. Salvation is a gift from God. Once He has bestowed it, He never takes it back.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

If even one person lost their salvation, it would mean God was not all-powerful.

Jn 10:28-29 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Rom 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Phil 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ . . .

1 Pet 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy . . .


Faith is essential to salvation (Jn 3:16; Heb 11:6), yet even if we lose faith, we still cannot lose our salvation.

2 Tim 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

The existence of one ex-Christian would show God to be powerless and His Word to be in error. Yet at ex-christian.net there are over 6,000 "ex-Christians" and almost 2,000 "extimonies" (sob stories from "ex-Christians" about how they were brainwashed as children and hurt by Christians blah blah blah). Clearly, these "ex-Christians" were never truly saved to begin with.

Still, it's a new low to start up a website where people pretend they used to be Christians to prey on those struggling with doubt.


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 04:11 PM

I share your feeling, brother. You can't un-know Jesus. You can be a Christ-denyer, and a blasphemer, but even false Christians are still Christians.

Doesn't mean that they're going to Heaven, though.


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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 04:38 PM

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Still, it's a new low to start up a website where people pretend they used to be Christians to prey on those struggling with doubt.
Amen! It makes me sick. These never were Christians are predatory. It's so the opposite of what we Christians do. We lift them from their pit of despair and destruction and fill them with the love of Christ.


Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.



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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 04:47 PM

So there are actual websites where sinners fully embrace the violation of the one unforgivable sin!?!
Mark 3:28-30

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.


This sort of behavior is exactly why I never leave my 5,500 acre compound here in South Central Montana! Well, except for my private jet that get's me to Landover Baptist for evening church services several times a week.


Revelation 19:15-16 "And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords."
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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 05:05 PM

Yes, what many people fail to understand is that the Christian salvation experience is not something that happens in the mind of an individual. Rather, it is an action by the Almighty in which one is covered with a perfect blood sacrifice (which the Almighty requires for anyone to enter into His Perfect Presence) and then one's name is inscribed upon The Lamb's Book of Life.

One cannot just "wash off" this cleansing blood; nor can one steal into the Perfect Presence of the Almighty and erase one's name from the Eternal Ledger of Salvation. It CANNOT be done, because Christianity is not a human endeavor. It is an Act of God and it is God in action.

People who claim to have experienced salvation or been Christians and then recanted on their experiences were never really saved in the first place. And those who were really saved will never recant . . . because you

Can't Recant

The Lord knows this, of course, and people who disagree with Him are just plain sinners, that's who they are.


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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-06-2014, 05:40 PM

If there is no ex-Christian in logic of they have not understood Christianity well, then there is no ex-atheist either, because they too could not understand importance of atheism.

There are 2 type atheists, 1 type is arrogant with no aim in life. They live undisciplined life. They are most likely to claim they have found Jesus or Allah.

Another type atheists are fully aware of Christianity's "peace verses". They know what they are doing. They dont revert.
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If there is no ex-Christian in logic of they have not understood Christianity well, then there is no ex-atheist either, because they too could not understand importance of atheism.

There are 2 type atheists, 1 type is arrogant with no aim in life. They live undisciplined life. They are most likely to claim they have found Jesus or Allah.

Another type atheists are fully aware of Christianity's "peace verses". They know what they are doing. They dont revert.
We get plenty of heathens who come to this Godly site to attempt to vex us. Your sly schemes are nothing new.

However, we don't get many drunk Indians here because most of them couldn't spell even if they could get ahold of the tribal computer. You can write a little, but you are obviously drunk and you don't make any sense.

If the Chief finds out what you are up to, he may tie you down over an anthill.


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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-07-2014, 12:02 AM

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One cannot just "wash off" this cleansing blood; nor can one steal into the Perfect Presence of the Almighty and erase one's name from the Eternal Ledger of Salvation. It CANNOT be done, because Christianity is not a human endeavor. It is an Act of God and it is God in action.

The Lord knows this, of course, and people who disagree with Him are just plain sinners, that's who they are.
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How true, Sister Handmaiden. If only sinners recognized, as we True Christians™ do, that they are at the mercy of Jesus.

In a way, sinners are fortunate that we are here to point out the sinfulness and futility of their lives.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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These never were Christians are predatory.
Amen! We're always looking for opportunities to bring our message of hope to people who are vulnerable, desperate and needy. What have "ex-Christians" got to offer anyone?


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-07-2014, 05:04 AM

Of course it's impossible to unknow Jesus! Once you had him in you, felt his love, said YES to Him. The seed has been sown! No take backs!!
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Of course it's impossible to unknow Jesus! Once you had him in you, felt his love, said YES to Him. The seed has been sown! No take backs!!
Well put, Jim.

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4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


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Default Re: There's NO Such Thing as an Ex-Christian! - 09-07-2014, 03:40 PM

"Ex-Christian", this is like somebody who managed to escape from jail but then chooses to return to jail, claiming freedom doesn't exist. They never really escaped their jail, they only made it to the prison yard. --> If you really become free through Jesus you never want to be a slave to sin again


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